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[Heimdall]

Let us say for a moment that the background choice system is very much like Mass Effect and has two rather than one background choice, one for childhood and one for career.  The system is in some ways more optimal than outright origins as far as roleplaying is concerned, providing more control over the character's past.

What sort of combinations would you like to see?  I'll share six of my own ideas.

For context, I will say that I am going on the assumption that all the protagonists begin their adventures at around the same age (19-24 thereabouts).  Which would make the Inquisitor about ten years old at the time of the Blight when you think about it.

Childhood:

Blight Refugee - Like I said, the Inquisitor would have been about ten at the time of the Blight.  It might be interesting to play a Ferelden that was forced to leave home at a much younger age than Hawke.  Not to mention a character whose young life was defined by the threat the first protagonist stopped.

Street Rat - Life of crime starving on the streets at a young age?  Plenty of potential here.  It makes a little less sense if you don't play as a rogue, but it still works.

Chantry - The chantry takes in orphans, doesn't it?  At least to put into templar training.  Rebel or keep to the chantry's teachings, either way it makes for interesting possabilities.

Career:

Apostate - The Circle takes ten year olds into its ranks, right?  Now, all mages are apostates.  This career may or may not have affiliation with the actual fighting mage faction in the game.

Ex-Templar - Trained amongst the templars as an initiate but left them when the war broke out, or never was formerly sworn in, take your pick.  I say initiate because I'd rather not shoehorn people into the Templar specialization.  I'm a little iffy about this own because unlike others I might come up with it precludes being a mage.

Mercenary - Pretty self explanatory.

So what are your ideas?

[The Elder King]

I think the career aren't good enough. A mage is forced to be an apostate. I mean, yeah, between the end of Asunder and the start of DA3 (if the PC will start in the Inquisition) the mage could've been an apostate. But what before? I think havinf the option between apostate and Circle mage would be better. Otherwise the players who choose to be a mage will not have a choice in the background, again.
I'd put in the career choice other options, like Chevalier (for a warrior) and a Crow (for a rogue). And with the childhood you're always forced to play a poor person. I think a Noble birthright option should be available, or at least one with a higher social status than orphan refugee or street rat.

[Heimdall]

hhh89 wrote...

I think the career aren't good enough. A mage is forced to be an apostate. I mean, yeah, between the end of Asunder and the start of DA3 (if the PC will start in the Inquisition) the mage could've been an apostate. But what before? I think havinf the option between apostate and Circle mage would be better. Otherwise the players who choose to be a mage will not have a choice in the background, again.

I'd put in the career choice other options, like Chevalier (for a warrior) and a Crow (for a rogue). And with the childhood you're always forced to play a poor person. I think a Noble birthright option should be available, or at least one with a higher social status than orphan refugee or street rat.

That's a decent point and I did think of that but I figured that was something that could be folded into the same choice.

I like the ideas though.

[hexaligned]

It would be nice if there were some game mechanics behind it. A single skill or spell associated with each background.
For example. "Fereldan Nobility" = mabari summon. Or "Magisters Apprentice" = a unique blood magic spell.

[Heimdall]

relhart wrote...

It would be nice if there were some game mechanics behind it. A single skill or spell associated with each background.
For example. "Fereldan Nobility" = mabari summon. Or "Magisters Apprentice" = a unique blood magic spell.

Personally, I was hoping all Inqisitors would get a Mabari, maybe one of the puppies from the Warden's

I like the principle behind the idea though.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 21 octobre 2012 - 02:40 .

[Inprea]

I really am not one for the traumatic childhood or dark history. To me they're just way over done. The only reason I picked orphan in mass effect is because I was pretty sure if Shepard had any living family members the game developers would just have to kill them off for the sake of drama. That said I believe that your characters class would need to influence their origin especially a mage given the chantry laws on the matter.

If I had a choice in the matter my mage would be the daughter of a gentleman farmer who lived relatively close to the circle. Between having templars of a more tolerant nature, think Cullen before he had the day lights tortured out of him for who knows how long, and her families wealth they would have been allowed regular visits. There is grounds for such treatment if you look at enchanter Illana for example.

As far as career. I believe she would have chosen to learn to heal as a mage for several reasons. Typically someone who heals your wounds is less frightening then someone who causes them. Also if you read the various tomes in the circle tower you'll find that mage healers are in some of the highest demand and yet if you consider how many of them you see lowest in number. This would have given her the maximum number of chances to be allowed to leave the circle. Plus it'd be nice if she found healing others to be both emotionally and financially rewarding.

So a life that was clearly blessed by the maker would be my preference.

[Blackrising]

Assuming they go the ME route and have three choices for childhood and three for career, this would be my wishlist:
Childhood:

• Street Rat: Including orphan status, street smarts and trust issues!
• Orlesian Nobility: Including fancy hats, Orlesian politics and parents that were too busy having fun to really care for their child!
• Farmer: Including a knack for working hard and haggling, awkward social skills and a happy little (if poor) family!

Career:

• Thief: Including skilled fingers, enemies everywhere and a strange fascination with all things shiny!
• Pirate: Including swashbuckler charms, an apprehension towards sailors that haven't seen a woman in weeks and nifty gold earrings!
• Circle Mage: Including a distrust of all Templars, fear of tight spaces and fun anecdotes about...happy times...with other mages of the Circle!

Okay, so the careers were more of a joke than anything, but writing that out, I realized if they go that route, they'd definitely have to have more than three options each.

[KENNY4753]

I expect it to be like ME, hopefully better. Besides a little of ME1 our background didn't matter. They completely forgot about them in ME3. At least ME2 gave us emails from people like Toombs and Talitha.

They said the background will be significant to the DA3 story. Hopefully it is.

[Androme]

I'm willing to bet money it's something along the lines of:

1) Fereldan
a) Knight
Grey Warden
c) ex-Templar

2) Orlesian
a) Chevalier
Grey Warden
c) ex-Templar

The two main options affecting the story most would be 1) and 2). A, b and c for both 1) and 2) will have a minor impact.

[PsychoBlonde]

Lord Aesir wrote...
 Which would make the Inquisitor about ten years old at the time of the Blight when you think about it.

I want the option to play as either that red-haired kid in Lothering yelling "MOTHERRR!!!!" or Connor, then.

Ooh ooh or that kid in the Stone Prisoner DLC you (can) save from the desire demon.  That would be a kickass background.  

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:37 .

[Rawgrim]

What makes anyone think we get to pick backgrounds for our characters? We couldn`t in DA2, and we are also stuck playing Human again too.

[PsychoBlonde]

Rawgrim wrote...

What makes anyone think we get to pick backgrounds for our characters? We couldn`t in DA2, and we are also stuck playing Human again too.

Cause backgrounds were announced in the same Kotaku article where they announced the human PC.

[The Elder King]

Rawgrim wrote...

What makes anyone think we get to pick backgrounds for our characters? We couldn`t in DA2, and we are also stuck playing Human again too.

Because it was announced in the same post in which they said we'll have a human PC. Read the last pages of the Twitter thread.

Modifié par hhh89, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:40 .

[PsychoBlonde]

All joking aside, I'm guessing it'll look something like this:

Mage:
1.) Apostate
2.) former Circle Mage (since the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Witch of the Wilds (I would pay extra for this one)
4.) Seer
5.) Magister's Apprentice

Rogue
1.) Slave
2.) Street Urchin
3.) Pirate
4.) Circus Performer
5.) Smuggler

Warrior
1.) Chevalier
2.) Former Templar (cause the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Mercenary
4.) Ash Warrior (complete with dog)
5.) Pit Fighter

Considering the events in Asunder they could add:
Mage
6.) Former Tranquil

I hope the backgrounds affect your stats in some way, that'd be cool.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:44 .

[Rawgrim]

hhh89 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

What makes anyone think we get to pick backgrounds for our characters? We couldn`t in DA2, and we are also stuck playing Human again too.

Because it was announced in the same post in which they said we'll have a human PC. Read the last pages of the Twitter thread.

Not buying it. they announced that DA2 would have tactical combat, choices that mattered, ME3 would have 16 different endings based on the choices from the previous games, and multiplayer would not influence singleplayer. Don`t really trust any of their "positive" announcements anymore. I am guessing the backgrounds you pick will be simmilar to the ones in the ME series. Where it just gets mentioned here and there, but has absolutely no impact on the story.

[The Elder King]

Rawgrim wrote...



Not buying it. they announced that DA2 would have tactical combat, choices that mattered, ME3 would have 16 different endings based on the choices from the previous games, and multiplayer would not influence singleplayer. Don`t really trust any of their "positive" announcements anymore. I am guessing the backgrounds you pick will be simmilar to the ones in the ME series. Where it just gets mentioned here and there, but has absolutely no impact on the story.

I never said that I trust them on making backgrounds actually matter in the story . I only said that backgrounds will be present.

[Quicksilver26]

don't feed the trolls

[Rawgrim]

hhh89 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...



Not buying it. they announced that DA2 would have tactical combat, choices that mattered, ME3 would have 16 different endings based on the choices from the previous games, and multiplayer would not influence singleplayer. Don`t really trust any of their "positive" announcements anymore. I am guessing the backgrounds you pick will be simmilar to the ones in the ME series. Where it just gets mentioned here and there, but has absolutely no impact on the story.

I never said that I trust them on making backgrounds actually matter in the story . I only said that backgrounds will be present.

Ohh I wasn`t taking a jab at you, or anything. I said "I" don`t trust them anymore. If you do, or don`t. Thats entirerly up to you, and either way is ok

[Pedrak]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

All joking aside, I'm guessing it'll look something like this:

Mage:
1.) Apostate
2.) former Circle Mage (since the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Witch of the Wilds (I would pay extra for this one)
4.) Seer
5.) Magister's Apprentice

Rogue
1.) Slave
2.) Street Urchin
3.) Pirate
4.) Circus Performer
5.) Smuggler

Warrior
1.) Chevalier
2.) Former Templar (cause the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Mercenary
4.) Ash Warrior (complete with dog)
5.) Pit Fighter

Considering the events in Asunder they could add:
Mage
6.) Former Tranquil

I hope the backgrounds affect your stats in some way, that'd be cool.

Pretty cool, but if they make more than 6 I'd be VEEEEEEEEEERY surprised.

Unless their only effects on the game are a couple of lines of dialogue.

[Knight of Dane]

I'll just repost what i wrote in the original thread: http://social.biowar...ndex/14597369/1

Knight of Dane wrote.....
I'm not sure if it would work entirely as Mass Effect since Dragon Age has a class (mage) which have always been treated a bit different, but I hope for something like two career and two cultural backgrounds for each class at least like:

Career:
Warrior - Guard-Lieutenant and Mercenary
Rogue - Thief and Mercenary
Mage - Circle Mage and Mercenary

Cultural:
Warrior - Noble and Commoner
Rogue - Commoner and Orphan
Mage - Outlander and Orphan

[The Elder King]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

All joking aside, I'm guessing it'll look something like this:

Mage:
1.) Apostate
2.) former Circle Mage (since the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Witch of the Wilds (I would pay extra for this one)
4.) Seer
5.) Magister's Apprentice

Rogue
1.) Slave
2.) Street Urchin
3.) Pirate
4.) Circus Performer
5.) Smuggler

Warrior
1.) Chevalier
2.) Former Templar (cause the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Mercenary
4.) Ash Warrior (complete with dog)
5.) Pit Fighter

Considering the events in Asunder they could add:
Mage
6.) Former Tranquil

I'd put Antivan Crow for a rogue's background and Seeker for a warrior, but your suggestions are pretty good.

[RandomSyhn]

See I could see backgrounds as more personality quirks that give NPCs from your area a particular memory of you. say somthing along the lines of

Troublemaker- constantly pulling pranks and running from those you've annoyed
Bully- strongarmed your way through childhood
Defendor- stuck with the weaker kids to keep the bullies away
quiet one- never really did much to make yourself stand out, always quiet or shy
Attention seeker- Whatever is going on you were in the center of it.
etc

these are brief summaries and I'm sure better ones could be supposed but I thinkg this also allows for a more set background (family friends etc) while still giving options to define your character.

[ammyretsu]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

All joking aside, I'm guessing it'll look something like this:

Mage:
1.) Apostate
2.) former Circle Mage (since the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Witch of the Wilds (I would pay extra for this one)
4.) Seer
5.) Magister's Apprentice

Rogue
1.) Slave
2.) Street Urchin
3.) Pirate
4.) Circus Performer
5.) Smuggler

Warrior
1.) Chevalier
2.) Former Templar (cause the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Mercenary
4.) Ash Warrior (complete with dog)
5.) Pit Fighter

Considering the events in Asunder they could add:
Mage
6.) Former Tranquil

I hope the backgrounds affect your stats in some way, that'd be cool.

I like most of these. Sure, we're still human but it's not simply you're Human A or Human B. Sure I read somewhere the background we choose alters parts of the game, but likely I've dreamt that....

[Heimdall]

ammyretsu wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

All joking aside, I'm guessing it'll look something like this:

Mage:
1.) Apostate
2.) former Circle Mage (since the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Witch of the Wilds (I would pay extra for this one)
4.) Seer
5.) Magister's Apprentice

Rogue
1.) Slave
2.) Street Urchin
3.) Pirate
4.) Circus Performer
5.) Smuggler

Warrior
1.) Chevalier
2.) Former Templar (cause the Circle's all busted up yo)
3.) Mercenary
4.) Ash Warrior (complete with dog)
5.) Pit Fighter

Considering the events in Asunder they could add:
Mage
6.) Former Tranquil

I hope the backgrounds affect your stats in some way, that'd be cool.

I like most of these. Sure, we're still human but it's not simply you're Human A or Human B. Sure I read somewhere the background we choose alters parts of the game, but likely I've dreamt that....

I think there was a general statement that they'd like to make the backgrounds matter more in the game...

I think

[Nashimura]

I just hope what ever they do it has more effect than it had in the ME series.