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[Zero132132]

Are the two instances of scion damage dealt in the same frame? If not, on Platinum, one could take you down to healthgate in a single shot.

[darkblade]

hmm, scary but at the same time if they werent doing this kind of damage theyd be even more of a cake walk then they are now.

[Clearly Balkan]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

It's ok Annomander. Just another uppity console brat wanting to brag about how good he is and how *he* doesn't have any trouble with collectors.

Never mind the fact that the OP never said a word about having trouble with collectors, just that they were bugged.

Yeah, I don't have any trouble with Collectors, but then again nobody perfected whining on BSN like "PC Master race".

About that "uppity console brat" - PATHETIC. 

[BridgeBurner]

Nafzger wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Yeah, I am better. But then, you ARE an ecks bawks player, so it would be hard NOT to be better.

lol so pro with his 1337 PC skills. PC is EZ mode since you just wiggle your little mouse over their heads to take your shots. On a console, you actually have to put effort into it. Consoles take skills. PC takes nothing.

yes, because aiming when the game aims for you and artificially adjusts the receptiveness of your stick to maximise accuracy on your behalf takes mad skillz....

[corlist]

Zero132132 wrote...

Are the two instances of scion damage dealt in the same frame? If not, on Platinum, one could take you down to healthgate in a single shot.

One shot cannot bypass shield or health gates, so it's technically just one sum of damage.

[Clearly Balkan]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

Clearly Bragging wrote...

Hidden Manifest.

Clearly PATHETIC.

[stinekandts]

I would bet that the difficulty is intentional. We were clamoring for a new enemy faction for the longest time, and we got it. This difficulty is a welcomed change, and I'm sure over time that players' tactics will get better against the collectors. I'll be seriously bummed if they lower difficulty of the collectors.

[BridgeBurner]

stinekandts wrote...

I would bet that the difficulty is intentional. We were clamoring for a new enemy faction for the longest time, and we got it. This difficulty is a welcomed change, and I'm sure over time that players' tactics will get better against the collectors. I'll be seriously bummed if they lower difficulty of the collectors.

I dont mind the combo damage reduction, whats the sense in the scion damage?

It renders every kit just as flimsy as a GE with 0 fitness and no cyclonic modualtor.... which is just stupid. Bioware make some.... "interesting" decisions regarding some aspects of the game, I don't see how letting a scion one shot even the toughest of shields is in any way balanced....

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Well, that escalated quickly.

Thanks for the info Corlist, good job as always.

[BridgeBurner]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Well, that escalated quickly.

Thanks for the info Corlist, good job as always.

Hey, mr "awesome", look at my pictures back a page. You might be able to headshot stuff, but I bet you've not ascended to biotic godhood like me though, have you?

[palmof40sorrows]

Clearly Balkan wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

That's why Scions 3 shot anything in the game. .

Staying in cover prevents this. Try it sometime. 

Cover? Oh you mean that thing that Collectors laugh at you for taking? Joking aside, cover can be useful, but man they seem to SPECIALIZE in taking you out of cover. That and punishing you for trying to revive teammates.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Clearly Balkan wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Yeah, I am better. But then, you ARE an ecks bawks player, so it would be hard NOT to be better.

I hardly believe that, but then again you belong to dying PC "master" race. 

PC is still the best way to play most games, thanks to mods. Have you seen the differences between Xbox Skyrim and PC Skyrim?

Just sayin'.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Annomander wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Well, that escalated quickly.

Thanks for the info Corlist, good job as always.

Hey, mr "awesome", look at my pictures back a page. You might be able to headshot stuff, but I bet you've not ascended to biotic godhood like me though, have you?

Yeah, clearly this Volus felt the Great Wind. *kshh*

[LandoCalrisian]

1. Remember that the collectors just arrived and will certainly be adjusted in the next many balance changes (although they might wait another week for the first changes to avoid balancing based on people panicking becuase they don't have any experience against them + everybody trying new crap out due to the challenge system.

2. People subtly (and not-so-subtly) bragging on internet forums is natural and acceptable to most people as long as it doesn't get out of control. A single post is not out of control when it refers to the thread topic in some way. Slightly bad style, but not out of control.

3. Responding to light bragging with ****y posts telling them their better-than-average play is actually terrible is lame and jsut plain bad style.

4. Posting more than one response to an insult in one thread is a good sign you need to take a deep breath and leave the thread.

5. Turning a thread about an important gameplay mechanic into a juvenile and pointless PC vs XBox tantrum is bad style pretty much anywhere. If you need to make PC vs XBox rants to blow off your XBox/PC Angst/Envy, please do so at gamespot.com.

Keep it classy, people! Let's not have the MP forum turn out like the romance forum!

[LandoCalrisian]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

Cover? Oh you mean that thing that Collectors laugh at you for taking? Joking aside, cover can be useful, but man they seem to SPECIALIZE in taking you out of cover. That and punishing you for trying to revive teammates.

I find the ideal setup for collectors is one or 2 folks mainly in cover/relatively static focusing on scions and possessed target and the other 2-3 running around like crazy (think solo gold/platinum run and gun) keeping the swarmers off via distraction and taking out the easy pickin's. I've been in a couple teams that worked like this and had my only sustained success that way, although it means immediate prioritizing of revives.

[quack123]

so power classes not only have to contend with nerfed cooldowns against collectors but also nerfed damage?

[Anders028]

If you're using Biotics as your main source of damage and your character is not the Fury, you're missing out on damage. Taking Hurricane with something else like the Scorpion or Falcon is always a good option

[ASmoothCriminalx]

AlienSpaceBats wrote...

Pun intended?

Seriously though, I played my first gold match against Collectors last night and they make the other factions look silly in comparison. Scions and Praetorians definitely need something done about them.

Wait, wait, wait. You played your first gold match against them and you think you have the ability to judge them OP or not? That is what is silly.

[megabeast37215]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

It's ok Annomander. Just another uppity console brat wanting to brag about how good he is and how *he* doesn't have any trouble with collectors.

Never mind the fact that the OP never said a word about having trouble with collectors, just that they were bugged.

Why are you starting console wars again Siran... am I a console brat? I thought you said "all the PC Master Race stuff is a joke and I don't have anything against console players" then you make posts like that...

I am not below you b/c I play on XBOX... get over yourself.... or just admit that all PC players are hackers/cheaters...

[Paeyvn]

I knew it, I called the bug out a while ago but couldn't put my finger on it. This is much more fleshed out.

[BridgeBurner]

Flaming Snake wrote...

Admittedly, Scions do way too much damage, but how's this for logic:

BSN complains the game is too easy and wants it harder.
Bioware makes a more difficult enemy.
BSN complains the enemy is too difficult and should be nerfed.
Lolwut?

Scions are currently only doing too much damage to classes that SHOULD have higher survivability; think batarians, krogan etc. Being 3 shotted as a tank character isn't "difficult" its just insane. Everything else; banshees, primes, atlas etc will one shot most character's shields on platinum; but not the tougher classes, because they're supposed to feel tougher. It really defeats the purpose of having 3k shields, if one enemy type is going to render those 3k shields no better than the 375 shields a geth gets....

[Shampoohorn]

Flaming Snake wrote...

Admittedly, Scions do way too much damage, but how's this for logic:

BSN complains the game is too easy and wants it harder.
Bioware makes a more difficult enemy.
BSN complains the enemy is too difficult and should be nerfed.
Lolwut?

"There must be balance in all things."  - 6th Circle of Zerthimon
 

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 21 octobre 2012 - 05:46 .

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Flaming Snake wrote...

Admittedly, Scions do way too much damage, but how's this for logic:

BSN complains the game is too easy and wants it harder.
Bioware makes a more difficult enemy.
BSN complains the enemy is too difficult and should be nerfed.
Lolwut?

There is a difference between difficulty and "Fake difficulty."

Giving an enemy with no discernable AI/tactics a nuke cannon for a weapon isn't difficulty, it's just stat manipulation.