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deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


thats the irony of it. A feature "nobody wants" includes an option that people want in the single player bit.

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deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


Me, yes.

Very much yes. 

Because it seemed that all the expense that goes into making a different race as justification for a single race is thrown out of the window if you do it anyway, but restrict it to multiplayer. 

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I'm pretty happy with the decision. I'd rather have a fleshed out human only protagonist as opposed to a more superficial one whose race I could choose.
I didn't expect anything else either after the confirmation of a voiced pc.

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Rawgrim wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


thats the irony of it. A feature "nobody wants" includes an option that people want in the single player bit.


Dude, Multiple race for multiplayer HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED. Save your rage for if that turns out to be true. 

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I felt all of the races got fleshed out well in the first game though. The origins were great.

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unbentbuzzkill wrote...

oh gee a bunch of posts saying i don't care i play human anyway is not helping the discussion at all, in fact imo it's aggravating those who prefer to play as other races. so can we please keep those kind of posts to a minimum thank you.


Absolutely ****ing not.

I'm not going to let you guys pretend you've reached some kind of consensus.  Do you have any idea what you're implying?  

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Palipride47 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


thats the irony of it. A feature "nobody wants" includes an option that people want in the single player bit.


Dude, Multiple race for multiplayer HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED. Save your rage for if that turns out to be true. 


Ohh i wasn`t raging. i was just musing.

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Rawgrim wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


thats the irony of it. A feature "nobody wants" includes an option that people want in the single player bit.


Would you still be upset if it's done by a different studio?

Me personally, if I can't have them in SP, I'd love to have them in MP.

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 Apparently this is what "consensus" looks like to the fans on the BSN, keep in mind that this is in a thread responding to news that a feature/content will not be in a game:

In this thread so far...

Upset:
LobselVith8
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dheer
WhiteThunder
Elfman
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warpelle
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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke
Wynne
Harle Cerulean
ligernull
Rawgrim
Caiden012

EpicBoot2daFace:
EpicBoot2daFace

Slight disappointment:
mousestalker
King Cousland
RAGING_BULL
Masha Potato
ianvillan
Ser Bard
Jorina Leto
Apollo Starflare
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Indifferent or noncomittal:
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Slightly positive:
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Upsettingshorts
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heyakate

Changes made from original list: 5


If I left you out, mischaracterized your position, or repeated a name, send me a private message and I will change it immediately without argument.  The intent here is not to mislead anyone on where you personally fall on this spectrum, only to convey that there is no consensus.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 22 octobre 2012 - 04:53 .


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Vicious wrote...

You couldn't choose your race in KOTOR or Planetscape: Torment either. Didn't stop them from being masterful RPGs.


Which doesn't change the fact that Origins provided the player with the option of being from different races and backgrounds, and some people want to see this feature return. I don't see why the developers decided to make an exclusively human storyline when this is precisely what we were given in Dragon Age II, which severely divided fans. In my humble opinion, I think having Elven, Dwarven, and Kossith Origins would be been better than another Dragon Age where we can only be human.

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deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


I'm not from the crow that is seriously pissed about the lack of race options (mostly because while I wanted them to return I already knew they wouldn't) but I don't see the value of playing a elf or dwarf in MP. If I ever though MP (with I doubt, as I didnt' for ME3) I'll probably play and elf or a Kossith, but I'll have no choice to talk, choose his personality, or anything. It's not the same thing as playing a elf as the PC of the game.

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Rawgrim wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


thats the irony of it. A feature "nobody wants" includes an option that people want in the single player bit.


Dude, Multiple race for multiplayer HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED. Save your rage for if that turns out to be true. 


Ohh i wasn`t raging. i was just musing.


Whoops, sry. A bunch of people have been raging. But that's all of BSN. Getting tiring saying the same thing repeatedly.

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Well, I am disappointed.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:49 .


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As for the topic, I'd like to play as other races. That would be awesome. But it depends on what compromise has to happen. If I'm going to lose a ton of visual customization and player agency because of it, then I can live without playing as other races. Just as long as you're still showing me the fantasy Dragon Age world(that includes letting Dwarf/Elves play a big part) and giving me non-human companions, I'm ok with the decision.

It's hard to fairly judge a single feature like this when I don't know what else is going into the game. Like I said, it depends on what will be lost if you had to focus on making playable races...

In short: It's not my personal highest priority and I can live without it as long as you're throwing plenty of bones to the player in other areas.

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deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


Oh yes, that would ****** off me.

Modifié par Jorina Leto, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:55 .


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 To be honest - I find this case very disappointing. Of course - questions and matters about production cost, time spend, working hours to make another races present available to player as avatar are valid, but on the second hand... Origins wouldn't be so great playing only as human.

Afaik, it took 6 years to develop Origins. DA II was a great game (in terms of plot, characters and overall feel I defend it 100%, in terms of mechanics only partially) in spite of only human race present. I understand the motives behind BioWare actions, but then again... if they wanna make only human, it has to be...

no...

it HAS to be a magnificent game, with all the options to play as. Mage, blood mage, rouge, warrior, maybe even Seeker for the Chantry. The wider spread, the better. And of course, each option has to have man and a lady present to choose from (sorry, will never accept this male/female words... owful!)

If they wanna make only humans, the pressure for them do deliver great storytelling, important and valid choices are even bigger. And let's not forget - new engine calls for new adjustments in terms of not being able to import saves from DA II. I honestly wish them luck with both this matters.

If they fail, DA IV maybe dead before even planned.

Modifié par YobelX, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:51 .


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Ohh i wasn`t raging. i was just musing.

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Whoops, sry. A bunch of people have been raging. But that's all of BSN. Getting tiring saying the same thing repeatedly.
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Don`t worry about it. i didn`t take it the wrong way :)

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@ upsettinshorts

yes i do know what i'm implying and it's not saying sitdown and shutup don't say anything, i'm merely asking they think about others before they start to type that's not so much to ask now is it?

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Why am I listed twice? Am I that upset? Image IPB

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Jorina Leto wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


Oh yes, that would ****** off me.


Picture this: DLC packs for multiplayer. Gives you a bunch of elves + classes for elves etc.

Sorry, just being mean now :)

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Jorina Leto wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


Oh yes, that would ****** off me.

I dunno could be amusing to see Bioware flogged by the fanbase again.

That said I and others who don't like this will just have to deal with it and move on.

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:56 .


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@ upsettinshorts

yes i do know what i'm implying and it's not saying sitdown and shutup don't say anything, i'm merely asking they think about others before they start to type that's not so much to ask now is it?


Are you thinking of others who might enjoy the added attention to a human protagonist that playing one who prefers them would provide before you post?

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Why am I listed twice? Am I that upset? Image IPB


You're your own category.

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If there was race selection in Dragon Age III, I would have pre-ordered it and waited in line at a midnight release. Without that choice, I'll pass on the game.

There's so much they could have done with different races and their origin stories since they fleshed out the characterization of the Qunari and the elven slaves from Tevinter. The worst part, though, is that the reason we're given for not having an option is "resources." Dragon Age: Origins gave us a choice, why can't Dragon Age III? So they could devote resources to multiplayer? A pre-conceived notion that the playable character has to be voiced? Day-one DLC that you get for buying the game new as opposed to used?

For that matter, why wasn't there race selection in Dragon Age II? "Resources" simply does not work as a reason in a game with heavily repeated enviroments and objects. I've no reason to expect a better experience with Dragon Age III than the experience I got with Dragon Age II.

Modifié par Lesbian Wood Elf, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:53 .


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Rawgrim wrote...

Jorina Leto wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

How would people feel if MP allows you to play different races? Just curious. Would that ****** people off?


Oh yes, that would ****** off me.


Picture this: DLC packs for multiplayer. Gives you a bunch of elves + classes for elves etc.

Sorry, just being mean now :)


Let's flip this around.  Say it's a tower defense game where the players have to defend against wave after wave...of elves!

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If there´s indeed MP, that´s money that could have gone to the VOs for different race PC, so yeah, it would annoy me. As much as I allow a videogame to.