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[Vicious]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Pre-order cancelled.

You can pre order the game already???

[ashesandwine]

I don't mind playing as human as long as the overall story is grand, exciting and engaging.

[ledod]

Given that any other race is either persecuted/irrelevant to the vast majority of terranean Thedas, with exception to be coming the wraden, humans are the best characters to lead an important story centered around a HUMAN INSTITUTION!

Modifié par ledod, 06 novembre 2012 - 02:09 .

[silentassassin264]

That is the point. Why is the story about a human institution? How come we came from DAO where we had a story affecting everyone to DA2 and DAI where the focus is on humanity? The humans are the only politically dynamic group in the Dragon Age series now.

[Palidane]

silentassassin264 wrote...

That is the point. Why is the story about a human institution? How come we came from DAO where we had a story affecting everyone to DA2 and DAI where the focus is on humanity? The humans are the only politically dynamic group in the Dragon Age series now.

Pray tell, why would the Dwarves or Dalish, or even City Elves get involved in the Mage-Templar war? What new perspective would they bring?

[silentassassin264]

The dwarfed entire economy relies on the lyrium trade which would most likely be shaken with the chantry no longer in control of the templars. The dalish now have an opportune time to unite since the humans are disorganized and are in no position to divine march them. If you bothered to think about the others it makes perfect sense.

[Heimdall]

silentassassin264 wrote...

The dwarfed entire economy relies on the lyrium trade which would most likely be shaken with the chantry no longer in control of the templars. The dalish now have an opportune time to unite since the humans are disorganized and are in no position to divine march them. If you bothered to think about the others it makes perfect sense.

Those would be two very different stories, and the dwarf reason doesn't seem as strong as the others.  I've never gotten the impression that the dwarves relied on lyrium trade with the surface for much of anything.

[Nefla]

I'm surprised that people are surprised. They cut dialogue choices down to 3 in DA2 and 2 in ME3, they stripped out origins and even gender pronouns and recognition were reduced in DA2. They stripped out companion customization, even level design. It was said earlier in this thread that most players don't even finish games let alone play through multiple times, so BW isn't concerned with replayability. Am I happy about that? No. I'm the (apparently rare) type of player that obsessively loves for my story to be different even slightly every playthrough. I want to roleplay characters and base my choices on what type of character I'm playing. A huge factor in this is race. I must have played DA:O at least 30 times and every time I felt was a bit different from the last and I was always discovering new things. In DA:O I only ever played as human if I wanted to be the king/queen (I think 3 playthroughs total).

If humans were portrayed in a more interesting way in Dragon Age then I might feel different, but everything about them is plain, middle of the road, default. Humans have all the power, humans are not discriminated against, humans aren't exotic, their culture is expected. I read a book as a child where elves ruled the world with an iron fist and humans were servants/low class with no possibility to rise to power and the mixed child of an elf and human was feared and to be immediately executed by the elves. In a world like that I would actually like to play both races and probably even favor humans.

[silentassassin264]

Lord Aesir wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

The dwarfed entire economy relies on the lyrium trade which would most likely be shaken with the chantry no longer in control of the templars. The dalish now have an opportune time to unite since the humans are disorganized and are in no position to divine march them. If you bothered to think about the others it makes perfect sense.

Those would be two very different stories, and the dwarf reason doesn't seem as strong as the others.  I've never gotten the impression that the dwarves relied on lyrium trade with the surface for much of anything.

Then you must not have paid attention to the merchants complaining in Orzammar once they were locked down in the fight for the next king.  

And well yeah the it would be a different story.  Kind of like how in DA:O we had a blight threatening the land AND a civil war.  Or to a lesser extent, in DA2 how we had this mage templar struggle AND a qunari invasion.  There is no reason they can't tell more than one story.  They just aren't.  The are going to ignore the other races and give it only from a human perspective.

Modifié par silentassassin264, 06 novembre 2012 - 05:12 .

[Nefla]

I could see Dwarves getting involved because of the chantry being so pushy and trying to spread to all corners of Thedas, even threatening an exhalted march on Orzammar if you help brother Burkel start his chantry.

[Felya87]

Nefla wrote...
If humans were portrayed in a more interesting way in Dragon Age then I might feel different, but everything about them is plain, middle of the road, default. Humans have all the power, humans are not discriminated against, humans aren't exotic, their culture is expected. I read a book as a child where elves ruled the world with an iron fist and humans were servants/low class with no possibility to rise to power and the mixed child of an elf and human was feared and to be immediately executed by the elves. In a world like that I would actually like to play both races and probably even favor humans.

you're right.
in that case, I would like to play as a human. even better, a half elf.

thing is, even the "Elf and Dalish are not interested in what happen to Mage and Templar" is not right. if we look in DA:O, why Dalish would be interested in the Blight? they can just travel away from the Blight. The Dwarf can even be happy of the Blight, because there would be less Dark Spawn in the underground.

I fell as if the templar/mage conflict would be much more important for the other races. Dalish are ruled by the Kepeer, that are mages! Templars can try to chase them, and leave the Dalish's clans without guidance.
let's not speak about City Elf, there are as many Elf mages as Human mages. They may not be templars, but are affected by the events. It's plausible Templars would made raids in the Alienages, or try to buy informations by non mage Elf.

The Dwarf may suffer conseguence from the lack of traid of Lyrium. maybe they can even suffer theft af Lyrium from Mages and Templars both.

It's just a big excuse the templar/mage war is a Human thing. Let's say that's just more simple and cheap create a pre-made human character.

[Han Yolo]

I'm fine with playing humans only. I never got another race beyond their origins. Don't know why though. Humans must have something appealing.

[Fast Jimmy]

Nefla wrote...

If humans were portrayed in a more interesting way in Dragon Age then I might feel different, but everything about them is plain, middle of the road, default. Humans have all the power, humans are not discriminated against, humans aren't exotic, their culture is expected. I read a book as a child where elves ruled the world with an iron fist and humans were servants/low class with no possibility to rise to power and the mixed child of an elf and human was feared and to be immediately executed by the elves. In a world like that I would actually like to play both races and probably even favor humans.

I can agree with this. It isn't even a 'humans are lame, elves rule!' mentality  People like playing as the underdog. Humans, even poor or low status humans, are not the underdogs. 

Also, if the war is supposedly set to destroy the world, as so many things have foreshadowed, then that affects all races and cultures. 

I agree that the plot (or what we know so far) only makes sense with a human protagonist. But I'd say that's more of a ding against the premise of the plot rather than a reason to strip races. 

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I don't like humans, because if you wanted to play as a human, you could play any game. The only reason I played as a human noble in Dragon Age was because it was supposed to be representation of myself (sort of). My favorite DA:O character, by far, is my goody-two-shoes, city elf warrior.

[x3KittyKat]

I'm indifferent I guess. I played the other races and enjoyed the plot but it isn't vital.

[FINE HERE]

Faerunner wrote...

Nefla wrote...

If humans were portrayed in a more interesting way in Dragon Age then I might feel different, but everything about them is plain, middle of the road, default. Humans have all the power, humans are not discriminated against, humans aren't exotic, their culture is expected. I read a book as a child where elves ruled the world with an iron fist and humans were servants/low class with no possibility to rise to power and the mixed child of an elf and human was feared and to be immediately executed by the elves. In a world like that I would actually like to play both races and probably even favor humans.

Pretty much this.

^I agree.

[Bernhardtbr]

Nefla wrote...

If humans were portrayed in a more interesting way in Dragon Age then I might feel different, but everything about them is plain, middle of the road, default. Humans have all the power, humans are not discriminated against, humans aren't exotic, their culture is expected. I read a book as a child where elves ruled the world with an iron fist and humans were servants/low class with no possibility to rise to power and the mixed child of an elf and human was feared and to be immediately executed by the elves. In a world like that I would actually like to play both races and probably even favor humans.

Well Tolkien created the "rule" that elves were once the rulers of the world and are in decadence, either by losing political power, or losing some supernatural ability.  Oh and that dwarves only live underground (eating what I dunno, probably bat guano but whatever)

[Mercedes-Benz]

Since I am Human, it would be strange for me to play as anything else.

[zyntifox]

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

Since I am Human, it would be strange for me to play as anything else.

Since i am an Italian plumber, it would be strange for me to play as anything but Mario.

[Felya87]

Cstaf wrote...

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

Since I am Human, it would be strange for me to play as anything else.

Since i am an Italian plumber, it would be strange for me to play as anything but Mario.

XD well, you can always choose Luigi...but is a little as choose Human Mage or Human warrior/rogue

really, it's ok, is (for some people) choose the human, because is more easy to identify him/herself,  but in DA Human is...plain. I can't find a better definition.

[Liamv2]

I want an elf but i can live with a human

Modifié par Liamv2, 07 novembre 2012 - 08:32 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

Yes, i definitely agree with people that want to Choose Another Race Option For Protag, we need at least +one more race to play(elf race in this case is perfect .... I would really like to play kossind-mage too(and see dwarf for choose), but it is almost impossible in this case)........because that is just not right for RPG with multiple races....and for Dragon age this is not make any sense

And I think many other people also do not want to play another really boring and stupid human clone of Hawke/Shepard... ...especially in Dragon Age, where you have many opportunities to be something more than this.

and people, customization in DA 3, on their engine will not be cooler than Saints Raw: The Third(and where we have to choose from 7 voices for protag), then what is the problem?)))


"I'd like to see these people if the protagonist was going to be only an Elf or a Dwarf" They will scream in anger that they were not allowed to play human)))...... and do not lie to me people that you will not))).....maybe I exaggerate a little, but you'll be very unhappy, or even going to write a petition to bioware