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[Fast Jimmy]

If Bioware has said that the reasons for restricting the choice to human-only is because the Inquisition will be tied in some way to the Chantry, then so be it.  That doesn't mean that the individual character would necessarily have to be pro-Chantry, of course, so it's not a contradiction on Bioware's part to have said this.  But whether it's tied to the Chantry or not, I think a good reason for the protagonist to be human is simply because it is primarily a human conflict.  Obviously it does have ramifications for other races, but not in the same direct way.  The Chantry is a human institution, as are the Templars.  Elf mages who lived in Circles will be affected, obviously, but nevertheless it remains a primarily human conflict.

And the Dalish, where each clan is rules by a Mage and is part of the reason they must constantly migrate and stay away from humans, wouldn't be affected by such a conflict?

And the Dwarves, which derive a huge market from selling lyrium to both Mages and Templars wouldn't have a stake in a conflict between these two groups?

And the Qunari, who represent true slavery for Mages and a direct threat to the Chantry (and, hence, the Templars) would have no concern at all with either the conflict itself or its direct outcomes?

I would disagree. On every account.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 28 mai 2013 - 03:34 .

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Silfren wrote...
This is a crap analogy. Try again. Try a scenario in which you are a white police officer in a predominantly white area known for its hostility to people who are not white, an area where people who aren't white certainly are NOT in the habit of being employed into positions of authority.

I guarantee you, if a non-white person showed up in that scenario, the only means by which it would NOT raise eyebrows and have the white officers asking questions would be if they'd been briefed ahead of time that the not-white person was supposed to be there.

An elf or dwarf not being questioned for their sudden inexplicable presence among guards who, heretofore have had NO such guards ever, especially given Howe's personality and his known contempt for elves (he is the type of jerk*ss for whom elves are nothing more than the servant class), is going to have people going "Puh?"

Lower ranks will never bother, like i mention before they must be curious but they wont bother unless the spy expose themselves. There bare many reason to the non white officer being in white men only police department.

Do you watch Blue Streak? The robber is black man who disguise being a cop just to get his lost diamond in the police department, yes it is a comedy story but that movie show how easily someone can disguise as a cop in the police department using fake ID and so on.

Now we talking about medieval time, even in the army camp no one will know who's who and detect a spy unless the spy is stupid. There are many reason why a barbarian being in Roman camp, there are many reason why a Scottish being in British camp...if the spy smart then they just come and go as they please, because lower rank officer don't bother to ask "who are you?"

Do you know Mulan? A woman who disguise as a man and can blend into the army unnoticed in the era where women are not allowed to become a soldier. No matter how a woman want to disguise as a man we can notice it, big butt, sweet face, sweet eyes, body posture, voice, scent (yes women have different scent even without perfume) and so on..tomboys are never look like a man to me, but if they are smart they can pass...just don't talk to anyone that making people want to question...

Modifié par Qistina, 28 mai 2013 - 03:42 .

[Bleachrude]

ArcaneJTM wrote...

@Silfren,

I think you're giving the typical city guardsman too much credit.  The high paid elite guard might be more likely take issue with it, but they are also more likely to be guarding restricted areas anyway, in which case they are more concerned that you are there than how pointy your ears are.  You're run of the mill low paid "beat cop" of a city guardsman isn't as dedicated to his job.  I believe the sergent in the market district even bemoans this fact, saying he gets to take care of lord such and such's imbecilic, snot nosed bastard sons who'd run away crying if he ordered them to apprehend you.

So you're basically arguing that the guards serve absolutely no purpose and are just window dressing?

If a elf with a big sword strapped to his back can simply walk into a place in Denerim where the elves have been placed into quarantine and it won't trigger ANY response from the guard?

Is this truly what you're saying the game world is like?

EDIT:

I'm actually curious now...what exactly would trigger a guard to actually well, GUARD?

Modifié par Bleachrude, 28 mai 2013 - 03:44 .

[The_FenixV]

Fast Jimmy wrote...
And the Dalish, where each clan is rules by a Mage and is part of the reason they must constantly migrate and stay away from humans, wouldn't be affected by such a conflict?

 

I sort of doubt that the Dalish would care about human conflict even if their keeper is a mage they constantly leave and know the forests better than anyone so it's easy for them to remain hidden and in some cases killing any humans that dwells upon their camp. 

And the Dwarves, which derive a huge market from selling lyrium to both Mages and Templars wouldn't have a stake in a conflict between these two groups?

 

It doesn't affect their market at all, they'll no doubt offer their lyrium to the one who pays more than the other, and they could easily double cross the mages and templars. 

And the Qunari, who represent true slavery for Mages and a direct threat to the Chantry (and, hence, the Templars) would have no concern at all with either the conflict itself or its direct outcomes?

 

The Qunari do not care about the chantry, templars, heck they don't care about Thedas unless they want to conquer it. Why would they want to be a part of an inquisition for stuff that really doesn't concern them or their precious Qun?  To them, the best thing to do is let them have a war which will weaken Thedas and then conquer it, it doesn't matter if it's the Templars that survive or the mages. 

Modifié par The_FenixV, 28 mai 2013 - 03:58 .

[Boycott Bioware]

@Silfren

Furthermore, if you want to argue that quest is illogical, then the Warden being in Denerim is also illogical. The sergeant even mention there is a "WANTED" poster with the Warden face on it, the sergeant even know the Warden but he don't bother about it. The guy near Gorim stall notice the Warden and want a duel.

And judging by the trailer Grey Warden have fiery eyes, and Isabella also mention about it "your fiery eyes tell differently". So everybody know "that guy/girl is a Grey Warden"

So?

[Silfren]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

If Bioware has said that the reasons for restricting the choice to human-only is because the Inquisition will be tied in some way to the Chantry, then so be it.  That doesn't mean that the individual character would necessarily have to be pro-Chantry, of course, so it's not a contradiction on Bioware's part to have said this.  But whether it's tied to the Chantry or not, I think a good reason for the protagonist to be human is simply because it is primarily a human conflict.  Obviously it does have ramifications for other races, but not in the same direct way.  The Chantry is a human institution, as are the Templars.  Elf mages who lived in Circles will be affected, obviously, but nevertheless it remains a primarily human conflict.

And the Dalish, where each clan is rules by a Mage and is part of the reason they must constantly migrate and stay away from humans, wouldn't be affected by such a conflict?

And the Dwarves, which derive a huge market from selling lyrium to both Mages and Templars wouldn't have a stake in a conflict between these two groups?

And the Qunari, who represent true slavery for Mages and a direct threat to the Chantry (and, hence, the Templars) would have no concern at all with either the conflict itself or its direct outcomes?

I would disagree. On every account.

What part of "obviously it does have ramifications for other races, but not in the same direct way," did you miss? At no point did I say that other races were not affected.  But it is, indisputably, PRIMARILY A HUMAN CONFLICT.

Modifié par Silfren, 28 mai 2013 - 04:04 .

[The_FenixV]

Qistina wrote...

@Silfren

Furthermore, if you want to argue that quest is illogical, then the Warden being in Denerim is also illogical. The sergeant even mention there is a "WANTED" poster with the Warden face on it, the sergeant even know the Warden but he don't bother about it. The guy near Gorim stall notice the Warden and want a duel.

And judging by the trailer Grey Warden have fiery eyes, and Isabella also mention about it "your fiery eyes tell differently". So everybody know "that guy/girl is a Grey Warden"

So?

That's what I always thought when my Warden ended up in Denerim, it should of been a more stealthy approach or that it's always night in Denerim to make it easier for the Warden but ah well. 

[Silfren]

Qistina wrote...

@Silfren

Furthermore, if you want to argue that quest is illogical, then the Warden being in Denerim is also illogical. The sergeant even mention there is a "WANTED" poster with the Warden face on it, the sergeant even know the Warden but he don't bother about it. The guy near Gorim stall notice the Warden and want a duel.

And judging by the trailer Grey Warden have fiery eyes, and Isabella also mention about it "your fiery eyes tell differently". So everybody know "that guy/girl is a Grey Warden"

So?

And what makes you think I don't have an issue with that?  Just because I didn't bring it up doesn't mean I didn't find it problematic story-wise--especially in the case of the Cousland Warden, since Howe at least would definitely be on the lookout for them once it was clear they survived Ostagar.  But it is actually addressed somewhat, making it less of an issue, the way the sergeant specifically explains why he is not enforcing the bounty.

I'm not sure what the heck you refer to with the comment about "fiery eyes," though as I don't remember any such dialogue, and I certainly don't remember the Warden from the trailer having fiery eyes.  Even so, the trailer is not something to go by.  But regardless, the reason anyone would know you to be a Warden in Denerim would be due to the Warden's likeness being passed around.  It doesn't mean that everyone EVERYWHERE knows the Warden on sight.

[ArcaneJTM]

Bleachrude wrote...

So you're basically arguing that the guards serve absolutely no purpose and are just window dressing?

If a elf with a big sword strapped to his back can simply walk into a place in Denerim where the elves have been placed into quarantine and it won't trigger ANY response from the guard?

Is this truly what you're saying the game world is like?

EDIT:

I'm actually curious now...what exactly would trigger a guard to actually well, GUARD?

No, that's not what I'm saying.  I'm just saying people are not giving human nature its due.  Especially when it was well established in-game that the Denerim city guards are not exactly pillars of good law enforcement officers.

[Silfren]

ArcaneJTM wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

So you're basically arguing that the guards serve absolutely no purpose and are just window dressing?

If a elf with a big sword strapped to his back can simply walk into a place in Denerim where the elves have been placed into quarantine and it won't trigger ANY response from the guard?

Is this truly what you're saying the game world is like?

EDIT:

I'm actually curious now...what exactly would trigger a guard to actually well, GUARD?

No, that's not what I'm saying.  I'm just saying people are not giving human nature its due.  Especially when it was well established in-game that the Denerim city guards are not exactly pillars of good law enforcement officers.

You've got a point regarding the people the Denerim guard was complaining about.  But I actually think that those people would be more likely to harrass an elf with any excuse they could grab, given the state of things in the Denerim alienage.  The people he describe sound to me like just the sort of bullies who would love an opportunity to throw their weight around against citizens who are used to being harassed and bullied with little to no recourse for justice.

But I still don't for a moment buy your implication that a person whose very job it is to guard for that sort of thing would be so uninterested and unconcerned with their job that they could look right at an armed elf and fail to notice what they were seeing, because they were more concerned about lunch. Your Tardis scenario doesn't really apply, because the two situations aren't analagous.  People will generally overlook a random object if it looks sufficiently like something else enough not to garner undue attention, but that's not quite the same situation as guards not noticing a minority class of people--who are generally held in contempt by the larger populace--who are carrying arms in direct violation of a law that forbids them from doing so. 

Modifié par Silfren, 28 mai 2013 - 05:09 .

[Bleachrude]

Dont' forget this also occurs when the alienage is supposed to be locked down because of rioting/plague....

So there's even more of a reason for the guards to be suspicious of an elf.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Sigh. I guess Elder Scrolls is still the King of Fantasy RPGs. 

Isn't it obvious that they are not including other races as protagonist because they want to use VA  ? Because the cost for putting a VA for 4 more characters is high ? What other reasons are there ? Story ? Stories can be adjusted and tweaked and IMO roleplaying, replayability, gameplay and story should go hand in hand, not conflict with each other.

See I would be perfectly fine with DA:I having only a human protagonist IF all the DA games had always stuck to this recipe from the start, like The Witcher Series. But it didn't. & the worse part is the DA game that had racial / species variety in terms of main character was the one that was enjoyed more by fans & critics alike.

I mean this is in a way a letdown for the RP-ers and a letdown in terms of replayability because of the purposeful restriction on the variety. DA :I  has to be really, really special to make up for this. & nothing that came out of Bioware in the past couple of years remotely suggests that they can make something really, really special. 

[The_FenixV]

I would say it's more in the terms of the setting for the third game rather than the voice actor, I doubt they would need four different voice actors just because of race it has more to do with the setting, wouldn't make sense for a Dalish to join the Inquisition..same for the Dwarves.

[Melca36]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Exactly. People really need to stop harping on this issue and not judge DA3 until AFTER they played it.

So... people should shell out money to find out if they will be forced to play something they find abhorrent?


Yeah... how about no. If Bioware isn't ABUNDANTLY clear about a LOT of things before DA3 comes out, they will find many fans not bothering. The days of "play and find out" with Bioware games is, for me, long gone. Just like with all other developers, if what they tell me about the game before I play it doesn't interest me, I'm not going to make the gamble.

Does that mean you would rather have a deceptive trailer like the way Dragon Age 2's was?

I understand what you are trying to say but whats done is done. I would rather wait and see more info before I decide anything.

And I mean no offense but I get really tired of seeing people bash humans. They can be just as fun to play. Its like its become trendy to hate them.

[Asdrubael Vect]

it is not to hard for bioware to give us choose the elf race(if not a dwarf or Kossind what i really wanted to)....especially the ex- circle mage/son of the tevinter magister(elf magister), or Orleas/Ferelden city elf....

1)the elf are universal race like humans, they can be....rogue/warrior/mage....

2)the elf's(expecially city elf's) are numerous in thedas....and this is also they war(unlike the dwarves(i like them,but still...) who can not even be the mage or the templar(the lyrium has no effect of them...except madnes if it's red lirium)

3)if the inquisition have options for be the mage....that means that inquisitor mages are ex-circle mages...and we knows that that many circle mages are elf's

4)if Templars separated from the Orlais Chantry(and they do not and never was belong to any country esept Orlais), they confront army of apostage mages and daemons massively invade to Tedas.
...Why they(and inqusitors) should not take non-mage elf's(dwarfs cant be a Templar or Mage) warriors/rogue-assasins who really believe in Maker, or just wants to stop the "evil" mages and demons?

5)the many even non-dalish and non-qunari elf's of Thedas has a real political/social influence, for example..the elf's Gray Wardens(especially knight-commanders like Fiona and the others)....the elf's Senior/First/Grand Enchanters.....the elf's magisters of tevinter empire(they are mention).....the elf's slave traders(like Devera in DA:O).....the elf's Antivan Crows....the elf's Ambassadors(like Cera in DA:O-Awakening)....the elfs Handmaids/Spymaster(Briala handmaid of Celine-Empress of Orlais)

6)if the hero would be the elf....I do not think it will take another actor for the character voice acting....that both races voice is almost identical(of course they identical...the actors are human), except for some accent, and if the elf from alianage/circle(any non-dalish)...then he should not have accent

7) the only problem is the cinematics for female elf protag, but why biowar not just make them the same height as male elf protag, who have the same height than human female protag?.....and about elf height in DA lore said that they are TYPICALLY SHORTER that Humans, NOT ALWAYS so why not just give us a tall elven protag(we see in DA 2 many tall elves with the same height as humans)
and we know that many female gamers were unhappy that they had a human/elven protag who was shorter that male protag 

8)and about....6 voice actors for 3 races??? Oh, really?))) and you know, that even a good-just normal actor can voice more than just one character?.....and we live in 2013 year and we even have cheep or even free voice changing programs?

about Inquisition:

We, in fact, something like the "Grey Warden"...only specifically against Demons(in theory they are our main enemy), ...and we need to find & making a "good decision" to stop mage vs templar war...technically, but the choice is ours

Besides, we like the Grey Wardens are chosen to be the "Inquisitor"(especially Mage..and we know that he/she would be Ex-circle/Apostage mage(and he/she can be elf..who, if not an elf, will be the best mage?).....and we have appointed to carry out a political settlement of the war between the Templars and mages

and the amount of voice acting for them certainly will not be more than 1-1.5 GB(the size of all skyrim voices)

...you give the title of the "Inquisitor" more sense than it actually is .. it's just a "cool name" for the new Grey Warden....we will not even really a part of Inquisition/Elite Templars(its only a Cassandra and Leliana-stupid b*tches are them(and some guys what we not see yet), we just some kind of a Special Mercenary, who was given special privileges and political power in order to stop the mage/templar war(maybe, because "someone" can not find the Warden and Hawke, and we do all the dirty work)

The developers say that we are not associated with Chantry and certainly not required to believe in a Maker, and we can be mage(ex-circle/apostage)....here and a warrior / mage / rogue of Kossind, Elf(especially them)....or even Dwarf(but they cant be templars or mages, and they are not so many of them outside the Deep Roads) would be approached without any problems

and stop talking this bull**** about that Mage vs Templar war is primality or only human conflict.

as for Kossind & Chantry/Templars/Inquisitor we have this

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 28 mai 2013 - 05:52 .

[Boycott Bioware]

Silfren wrote...
I'm not sure what the heck you refer to with the comment about "fiery eyes," though as I don't remember any such dialogue, and I certainly don't remember the Warden from the trailer having fiery eyes. Even so, the trailer is not something to go by. But regardless, the reason anyone would know you to be a Warden in Denerim would be due to the Warden's likeness being passed around. It doesn't mean that everyone EVERYWHERE knows the Warden on sight.

If you talk to Isabella she will mention about the Warden fiery eyes, if your Warden is a humble one...

Edit : Isabella said "But your FIRERY eyes tell me differently, i have meet many Wardens, there is always something weird about you", something like this

Furthermore, if you wear Warden Commander armor all the time everywhere in Ferelden, it is even more illogical

And Alistair is with you, the heir to the throne, being in Denerim...going to his sister house in Denerim...Loghain sure a fool having an incompetent guards...Alistair said in Lothering "Sure we can go to Denerim but Loghain will not let just pass by..." and yet he can get in and out ind Denerim and no one ever notice "hey that is the heir to the throne!"

Modifié par Qistina, 28 mai 2013 - 05:46 .

[The_FenixV]

Dark Korsar wrote...

it is not to hard for bioware to give us choose the elf race(if not a dwarf or Kossind what i really wanted to)....especially the ex- circle mage/son of the tevinter magister(elf magister), or Orleas/Ferelden city elf....

1)the elf are universal race like humans, they can be....rogue/warrior/mage....

2)the elf's(expecially city elf's) are numerous in tedas....and this is also they war(unlike the dwarves(i like them,but still...) who can not even be the mage or the templar(the lyrium has no effect of them...except madnes if it's red lirium)


and stop talking this bull**** about that Mage vs Templar war is primal or only human conflict.

True they are universal, but problem is, Dalish elves wouldn't care about this event, because the Inquisition joined the chantry along with the seekers and the templars( although the templars aren't part of it now.) Last I checked the Elves prefer the creators and not talks about a maker and such nor would they care about this conflict. They would only care about keeping their clan safe. 

As for the elves in the alienage treated like dirt I doubt they'd want to involve themselves in this. Only point I'll agree on is that yes maybe they should of made another race and that would be for elves that used to be in the circle. 

As for the Dwarves, it doesn't affect them at all, they'll make money either way. It would affect them even less if they have Harrowmont as king.. in fact I'd say Orzammar would pretty much be ruined thanks to Harrowmonth so yeah. 

[The_FenixV]

The_FenixV wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

it is not to hard for bioware to give us choose the elf race(if not a dwarf or Kossind what i really wanted to)....especially the ex- circle mage/son of the tevinter magister(elf magister), or Orleas/Ferelden city elf....

1)the elf are universal race like humans, they can be....rogue/warrior/mage....

2)the elf's(expecially city elf's) are numerous in tedas....and this is also they war(unlike the dwarves(i like them,but still...) who can not even be the mage or the templar(the lyrium has no effect of them...except madnes if it's red lirium)


and stop talking this bull**** about that Mage vs Templar war is primal or only human conflict.

True they are universal, but problem is, Dalish elves wouldn't care about this event, because the Inquisition joined the chantry along with the seekers and the templars( although the templars aren't part of it now, and it also doesn't mean that your pc is pro chantry.) Last I checked the Elves prefer the creators and not talks about a maker and such nor would they care about this conflict. They would only care about keeping their clan safe. 

As for the elves in the alienage treated like dirt I doubt they'd want to involve themselves in this. Only point I'll agree on is that yes maybe they should of made another race and that would be for elves that used to be in the circle. 

As for the Dwarves, it doesn't affect them at all, they'll make money either way. It would affect them even less if they have Harrowmont as king.. in fact I'd say Orzammar would pretty much be ruined thanks to Harrowmonth so yeah. 

[Bleachrude]

The_FenixV wrote...

I would say it's more in the terms of the setting for the third game rather than the voice actor, I doubt they would need four different voice actors just because of race it has more to do with the setting, wouldn't make sense for a Dalish to join the Inquisition..same for the Dwarves.

Again...this is what I don't understand....

The whole point of Thedas is that there are actual social differences between mages and non-mages as well as the races. This is NOT the Forgotten Realms where you basically can ignore race and class since the setting doesn't care.

DA:O gets away with this since being a warden (again, how people are able to tell by you just saying it is interesting) overrides class and race.

Honestly, if Bioware wanted to make any race available they should have designed the setting from the outset where race makes no distinction a la many D&D settings.

EDIT: The more I think of it, wasn't one of the many criticisms against DA2 the fact that mage Hawke could be a blood mage and be open about it yet not one templar says or does anything?

Modifié par Bleachrude, 28 mai 2013 - 06:01 .

[kinderschlager]

The_FenixV wrote...

I would say it's more in the terms of the setting for the third game rather than the voice actor, I doubt they would need four different voice actors just because of race it has more to do with the setting, wouldn't make sense for a Dalish to join the Inquisition..same for the Dwarves.

what on earth are y'all talking about?

link to the articles by bioware detailing the plot?

[ArcaneJTM]

Silfren wrote...

You've got a point regarding the people the Denerim guard was complaining about.  But I actually think that those people would be more likely to harrass an elf with any excuse they could grab, given the state of things in the Denerim alienage.  The people he describe sound to me like just the sort of bullies who would love an opportunity to throw their weight around against citizens who are used to being harassed and bullied with little to no recourse for justice.

Riiiiiiggghhtt.  "Hey guys!  Theres a very well armed elf over there with three other really dangerous looking people.  I've been feeling a little suicidal today, so lets go pick a fight with him and his giant stone statue friend."

Even a bully has self preservation instincts.

I don't mean to sound insulting, but lazy people not doing their job is not uncommon.  Especially if they don't particularly care about it in the first place.  And it's not like the guards were specifically hired to look for elves with swords.  That would be absurd.

[Riknas]

I still have no major problems with the removal of races, but it should be mentioned that Voice Acting should not be a major deterrent for using another race, at least not if we're talking about elves. Dwarves are a little trickier.

As we saw in Star Wars: The Old Republic, the same voice actor/actress can be reused if the races are similar enough. Of course, this hardly justifies adding back in elves, but it is something to consider.

Modifié par Riknas, 28 mai 2013 - 06:03 .

[Silfren]

Qistina wrote...

Silfren wrote...
I'm not sure what the heck you refer to with the comment about "fiery eyes," though as I don't remember any such dialogue, and I certainly don't remember the Warden from the trailer having fiery eyes. Even so, the trailer is not something to go by. But regardless, the reason anyone would know you to be a Warden in Denerim would be due to the Warden's likeness being passed around. It doesn't mean that everyone EVERYWHERE knows the Warden on sight.

If you talk to Isabella she will mention about the Warden fiery eyes, if your Warden is a humble one...

Edit : Isabella said "But your FIRERY eyes tell me differently, i have meet many Wardens, there is always something weird about you", something like this

Furthermore, if you wear Warden Commander armor all the time everywhere in Ferelden, it is even more illogical

And Alistair is with you, the heir to the throne, being in Denerim...going to his sister house in Denerim...Loghain sure a fool having an incompetent guards...Alistair said in Lothering "Sure we can go to Denerim but Loghain will not let just pass by..." and yet he can get in and out ind Denerim and no one ever notice "hey that is the heir to the throne!"

I'm fairly sure that Isabela meant that comment figuratively.  The Warden doesn't have literal eyes of fire.

Alistair himself is not quite so huge issue as the Warden.  It's not likely that most people would recognize him on sight the first time he was seen in Denerim.  Loghain would recognize him, and anyone else who had a likeness of him, but prior to the Landsmeet he isn't a household name like Anora or Cailan, so it's not like a random person on the street of Denerim would see him and automatically recognize him as the heir to the throne...especially since he's NOT an heir to the throne prior to being recognized as Maric's son during the Landsmeet.   But since he's roaming around with the Warden, and we know her likeness was definitely given to the guards, and it's plausible that Loghain would have people on the lookout for him too, yes, this is also a bit of an issue. 

I'm not sure whether you're arguing my point or agreeing with it, though, because your comment just stands in favor of the point I'm making.

[The_FenixV]

Riknas wrote...

I still have no major problems with the removal of races, but it should be mentioned that Voice Acting should not be a major deterrent for using another race, at least not if we're talking about elves. Dwarves are a little trickier.

As we saw in Star Wars: The Old Republic, the same voice actor/actress can be reused if the races are similar enough.

Well some Dwarves in Origin and DA II didn't really have...Dwarf like...voices.. 

[Bleachrude]

ArcaneJTM wrote...

Silfren wrote...

You've got a point regarding the people the Denerim guard was complaining about.  But I actually think that those people would be more likely to harrass an elf with any excuse they could grab, given the state of things in the Denerim alienage.  The people he describe sound to me like just the sort of bullies who would love an opportunity to throw their weight around against citizens who are used to being harassed and bullied with little to no recourse for justice.

Riiiiiiggghhtt.  "Hey guys!  Theres a very well armed elf over there with three other really dangerous looking people.  I've been feeling a little suicidal today, so lets go pick a fight with him and his giant stone statue friend."

Even a bully has self preservation instincts.

I don't mean to sound insulting, but lazy people not doing their job is not uncommon.  Especially if they don't particularly care about it in the first place.  And it's not like the guards were specifically hired to look for elves with swords.  That would be absurd.

You still haven't answered then...what exactly is the point of having the guards then? Seriously, you're arguing that the guards won't guard and that ANYBODY could simply walk in there and not be challenged.