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Vicious wrote...

 Can't go wrong with a human. Would I like to play something else? Sure, sometimes. Is it worth SCREAMing and CRYing about? Absolutely not. 

 . I was hoping Inquisition would have brought back the Origins.


Your human character has different origins.


I think the comment was more towards playable origins.

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Can I just say I find it amusing how people constantly say DA3 will not live up to the Witcher 2, a game where you can only play as a defined male human character. Then people learn in DA3 you will only be able to play as a human, albeit a customizable one, and people are up in arms over it with quite a few saying they took away one of the best things about DAO.

Just another day on BSN I guess.


lulz were had

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Now if we only get human companions I will be very mad


This definitely will not be the case.

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@FemaleMageFan: Yeah, I noticed but I really hope they won't butcher the character off and try to make it look like the Hawke we import. The only other way I see this would be to allow a Hawke origin, so we wouldn't have to bother with the new character and just fix our Hawke's look.

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You are 'the inquisitor' it couldn't be any more obvious if they beat you over the head, and people are STILL surprised.

Is there a link to this? I still have yet to see confirmation from a dev.

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Races never added anything significant to the game play mechanics, so I don't care.

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challenger18 wrote...

Can I just say I find it amusing how people constantly say DA3 will not live up to the Witcher 2, a game where you can only play as a defined male human character. Then people learn in DA3 you will only be able to play as a human, albeit a customizable one, and people are up in arms over it with quite a few saying they took away one of the best things about DAO.

Just another day on BSN I guess.


Apples to oranges?

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@FemaleMageFan: Yeah, I noticed but I really hope they won't butcher the character off and try to make it look like the Hawke we import. The only other way I see this would be to allow a Hawke origin, so we wouldn't have to bother with the new character and just fix our Hawke's look.

I'm thinking it might be cool if we are able to play as hawke for the first 10 minutes of the game just to give him closure, then we switch to our character<with an option to skip this for those that did not play DA2>. That is just a suggestion though!

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I'm a little disappointed but not surprised. I hope the different backgrounds have enough depth to add to replay value.

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Teddie Sage wrote...

@FemaleMageFan: Yeah, I noticed but I really hope they won't butcher the character off and try to make it look like the Hawke we import. The only other way I see this would be to allow a Hawke origin, so we wouldn't have to bother with the new character and just fix our Hawke's look.


If Hawke or the Warden are seen at all, which I doubt, then it will probably be helmeted. They're changing engines so face imports, along with save imports, are probably not going to work so smoothly.

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Having Male Hawke or Female Hawke narrate the story like Varric would be interesting, as an all seeing-godlike character. He wouldn't be in the story directly but would still let people know he or she knew about the inquisitor and met him at a few places. If they used the frame narrative just for this again, it would work. But it would be a lot of trouble over nothing. So yeah, I'd rather have to play as Hawke again.

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Honestly, I am a bit disappointed. I'm not shocked, as I've often argued that the DA series would bounce between set protagonists and racial options since it's about Thedas and not any one character, and Mike Laidlaw's comments on what they'd like to do going forward seems to support that idea.

That said, I still think DA3 would benefit from having different races as the protagonists, from a writing standpoint -- as well as a "more choices" standpoint.

All in all, while I'm disappointed and skeptical of what Mike said being something that will happen, I'll wait to hear more.

Though I will say that this notion of "backgrounds" that we can choose... well... I'm not a fan of it. If it's not something I can experience, it just... doesn't strike my fancy. Still, I know little aside from that, so maybe there will be more information that will change my disposition towards them.

But I doubt it.

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I couldn't even begin to care. I almost always play human characters anyway. It isn't the race that makes a character interesting, after all.

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AppealToReason wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

@FemaleMageFan: Yeah, I noticed but I really hope they won't butcher the character off and try to make it look like the Hawke we import. The only other way I see this would be to allow a Hawke origin, so we wouldn't have to bother with the new character and just fix our Hawke's look.


If Hawke or the Warden are seen at all, which I doubt, then it will probably be helmeted. They're changing engines so face imports, along with save imports, are probably not going to work so smoothly.


That's why I'm suggesting to import Hawke but re-do all his/her face through the new engine by ourselves. Something like what happened for Mass Effect 3's Shepard.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 21 octobre 2012 - 07:32 .


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Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

challenger18 wrote...

Can I just say I find it amusing how people constantly say DA3 will not live up to the Witcher 2, a game where you can only play as a defined male human character. Then people learn in DA3 you will only be able to play as a human, albeit a customizable one, and people are up in arms over it with quite a few saying they took away one of the best things about DAO.

Just another day on BSN I guess.


Apples to oranges?


Possibly, but I believe I've seen those statements and ****-losing in the same topic.

Then again the BSN forums are usually a blur to me, and best forgotten in a drunken haze.

Modifié par challenger18, 21 octobre 2012 - 07:32 .


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I'd prefer to have racial choices. If I don't get it, I'll look at the other features, weigh the good and the bad, and decide whether or not to buy the game based on a combination of them.

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I'd have preferred the choice back, but I'm not terribly broken up about it. I still enjoyed DA2.

^

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I think that as long as there is a lot of customization of the character, it doesn't matter that he's/she's just human and not dwarf or elf.

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challenger18 wrote...

Can I just say I find it amusing how people constantly say DA3 will not live up to the Witcher 2, a game where you can only play as a defined male human character. Then people learn in DA3 you will only be able to play as a human, albeit a customizable one, and people are up in arms over it with quite a few saying they took away one of the best things about DAO.

Just another day on BSN I guess.


Well, the thing about The Witcher and The Witcher 2 is that Geralt was not only far less defined than Hawke was, but the gameplay and story were superior to Dragon Age 2 in nearly every way.  What these people are saying, and what you clearly do not understand, is that Dragon Age 3, by limiting itself to a defined human protagonist, has just punted away one of its only possible advantages over The Witcher 2.  Therefore it has limited itself to direct comparisons to that game.  And, judging from everything Bioware's done since Origins, it will probably be found lacking.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

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Good, because judging from certain leaked info and the title of the next DA game, being a Human is the only race that would make any sense. The Dragon Age universe is pretty much human dominated, I think people have the wrong understanding about Elves and Dwarves and think of them as ''common''.

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I don´t mind that we´ll have only human character. Sure, I would like to make for example elf character, but if the story needs human I accept it.

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As long as it's not another Hawke, I might buy the game.

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Personally, while I feel sorry for those who are disapointed, I am quite glad and relieved by this development.
I always preferred to play as a human and, after DA2 and ME with their human PCs, I had feared we would be forced to play as an elf or dwarf in DA3

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The decision has put DA3 100 points further into the red. Best to get all the bad things out of the way first, to make way for the good things.

(For those wondering, the game's currently at -125 points. I'll buy it if it's 0+ since I love Thedas and this series).

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ianvillan wrote...

I am not exactly pleased with Biowares decision to go Human only and I dont believe that story reasons are the main reason for this decision.

A company as good as Bioware should be able to create a story where your choice of race can be any of the main races.

It does seem that Bioware has decided to go a more mass effect route for there games which is their right, but at the same time they should not say they plan and having the best of Origins and DA2.


I don't really see how "the best" from Origins is being implemented into Inquisition; it seems to be following the same pattern as Dragon Age II. Human only, paraphrasing, dialogue wheel, auto-lines, no choice over religious views, fixed companion armor, ect.