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[Jerrybnsn]

Of all the complaints about DA2, and there were a lot of them. having a more limited protagonist as a human is one of the BIG ONES.

But what do they think the problem is limited to?  Reused maps and companion customization?

This isn't a thread to bring up all of the DA2 weaknesses in game play.  This is a thread to list what has bioware listened to of all the complaints about where the series is going.

[King Cousland]

So you're essentially classing the inclusion of one feature you dislike as a sign that BioWare will not address any criticisms? 

What a hugely inflated sense of entitlement. 

Modifié par King Cousland, 21 octobre 2012 - 07:16 .

[Il Divo]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Bioware has selective hearing.

So do the fans.

Modifié par Il Divo, 21 octobre 2012 - 07:18 .

[upsettingshorts]

A thread like this would make sense closer to DA3's launch, if not after it. Then you could actually do something of a "post mortem" as it were.

At this point they're only telling us hints of things that will be in the game, and explicitly stating some things that won't be, as they're still managing expectations.

In other words, not enough data to draw a conclusion.

[robertthebard]

...and when this topic, with a title that starts off confrontational, winds up locked, it will be attributed to conspiracy theories, instead of "hey, I guess I could have been less confrontational". This isn't the ME 3 forums, where they just let anything go, and I, for one, am glad.

[Emzamination]

King Cousland wrote...

So you're essentially classing the inclusion of one feature you dislike as a sign that BioWare will not address any criticisms? 

What a hugely inflated sense of entitlement. 

^ /Nods

[wright1978]

Background selection is clearly a nod towards origins but clearly they view having a fixed race as having advantages in telling the story they want to tell. Personally i'm fine with that.

[KENNY4753]

well this thread is going to end well.

We do not know anything about the game. Sure they said we will have a Human PC but we know nothing about these backgrounds and they could end up being better than the Origin Stories from DA:O (I know they won't be playable but they could still mean a lot more to the game).

My point is until we have actual information about the game we cannot say what they listened to and what they didn't

[Allan Schumacher]

The title of this thread as it stands right now comes across somewhat adversarial, and not entirely in the spirit of the content of your main post.

[Monica21]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Of all the complaints about DA2, and there were a lot of them. having a more limited protagonist as a human is one of the BIG ONES.

But what do they think the problem is limited to?  Reused maps and companion customization?

This isn't a thread to bring up all of the DA2 weaknesses in game play.  This is a thread to list what has bioware listened to of all the complaints about where the series is going.

Most of the people posting in this forum are ignorant about almost everything that makes up Inquisition. It's premature (and presumptuous) to assume that the developers have exactly two thoughts on what the weaknesses of DA2 were. We have very small bits of information about Inquisition, so "what BioWare has listened to" isn't exactly something we players can address with any degree of knowledge just yet.

[FINE HERE]

Um... I wouldn't say 'selective hearing.' They have their vision, and they don't know how(or possibly don't want) to change it to meet everyone's expectations. I'm super disappointed and won't be preordering DA3 nor will I be buying it full price, but I won't insult Bioware for their decision.

Modifié par FINE HERE, 21 octobre 2012 - 07:25 .

[mousestalker]

They don't have selective hearing. I think they hear us just fine. They are restrained in what they say. The issue is other than what you state.

[jackofalltrades456]

I don't know...

At this point I feel it's just.

[xAmilli0n]

*sigh* so here is the deal. There is a big difference between listening to criticism, and acting upon every complaint. Nobody does that...ever. It would never result in a good product.

Bioware is listening, but don't expect them to acknowledge every little thing you (or anyone else) disliked simply because it was said.

They know there were things that needed to be improved in DA2, and I'm sure they want to make a good game. If only being a human is what makes sense for the story, then that's better than trying to fit in an elf or dwarf into the story. This complaint is petty at best.

Also, we know very little right now. Let them make their game. When we know more, then we can yell more, if necessary.

[The Hierophant]

Il Divo wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Bioware has selective hearing.

So do the fans.

It's a vicious cycle.

[Vicious]

King Cousland wrote...

So you're essentially classing the inclusion of one feature you dislike as a sign that BioWare will not address any criticisms? 

What a hugely inflated sense of entitlement. 

THANK YOU.

[Caiden012]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

A thread like this would make sense closer to DA3's launch, if not after it. Then you could actually do something of a "post mortem" as it were.

At this point they're only telling us hints of things that will be in the game, and explicitly stating some things that won't be, as they're still managing expectations.

In other words, not enough data to draw a conclusion.

I think the point is that some of us what to get Bioware to hear while changes can still be made. I don't expect them to change much, if anything, they have planned for the game so far but some of us can still hope.

[ianvillan]

hopefuly it might be more like selective sharing, the DA2 info is given out yet the Origin info (if any) is kept back.

Now I feel the truth of this is very slim but it is a possibliity.

[Il Divo]

The Hierophant wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Bioware has selective hearing.

So do the fans.

It's a vicious cycle.

Vicious, but there's also a sort of masochistic pleasure to reading through it all.  

[upsettingshorts]

Caiden012 wrote...

I think the point is that some of us what to get Bioware to hear while changes can still be made. I don't expect them to change much, if anything, they have planned for the game so far but some of us can still hope.

Nothing being said now is new.  It was being said before DA2 was launched, it was said after DA2 was launched.  

It is safe to say that if a point of view existed to be considered, it has been considered and made whatever impact it is going to make on development.  

We should wait and see until there is more.  Otherwise we're just repeating what BioWare already knows about the opinions that fly around the BSN.

[Jerrybnsn]

To act like "not having race selections" is no big deal, when it is, is called "selective". All of the list of things wrong with DA2 and what they would like to see in DA3, race options was a major subject brought up.

Whether or not the fans wanted it was never an arguement.

[whykikyouwhy]

Jerrybnsn wrote...


This isn't a thread to bring up all of the DA2 weaknesses in game play.  This is a thread to list what has bioware listened to of all the complaints about where the series is going.

With only two games released, it's a bit unfair to make an assessment about where the entire series is going. We have no knowledge of how large and far-reaching the series may be.