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Petrice as a companion would have been interesting. Or as a LI.

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Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

Out of curiosity, why?

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Xilizhra wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

Out of curiosity, why?


Also curious as to why?

I choose: let Qunari have her take an arrow to the chest (she used to be a Chantry Priest before that.....hehe meme)
or
Personally pummel her face in (which someone says you can do, and HOW?!!! TELL ME!!!)

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Xilizhra wrote...

I concede, I found Petrice hotter than I should have.

I know right lol weird, in some ways she reminds me of a fanatic Morrigan or Miranda lol Posted Image

That attitude was divine Posted ImagePosted Image

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Didn't know that she could survive, maybe in my next playthrough I could... no, who am I kidding? She deserves that arrow to the chest.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I concede, I found Petrice hotter than I should have.

I know right lol weird, in some ways she reminds me of a fanatic Morrigan or Miranda lol Posted Image

That attitude was divine Posted ImagePosted Image


Strange. I never find the urge of  sticking a knife in the throat of Morrigan or Miranda.
Slight difference between Miranda/Morrigan and Petrice: the former aren't xenophobist and extremist as the latter. Though you were probably talking about their physical appearance.

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hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I concede, I found Petrice hotter than I should have.

I know right lol weird, in some ways she reminds me of a fanatic Morrigan or Miranda lol Posted Image

That attitude was divine Posted ImagePosted Image


Strange. I never find the urge of  sticking a knife in the throat of Morrigan or Miranda.
Slight difference between Miranda/Morrigan and Petrice: the former aren't xenophobist and extremist as the latter. Though you were probably talking about their physical appearance.

Wrong, Petrice didn't hate the Quanri for being non-Humans, she hated them for being heathens, quiet different.

All 3 are firmly devoted to their cause and beliefs.

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Wrong, Petrice didn't hate the Quanri for being non-Humans, she hated them for being heathens, quiet different.

All 3 are firmly devoted to their cause and beliefs.


Ok, she might not be xenophobic (which I'm not sure, since she thought that the mage Qunari was escaping from the Qn and yet wanted him dead to strenghten her cause, which shows little regard to his life, contrary on what a Chantry priest should do), but that doesn't mean that she should hate the Qunari because they have different beliefs. Both the Chantry and the Qun should learn to respect others who don't share their belief, a thing that elves and dwarves do.
They might be devoted to their cause, but Morrigan and Miranda aren't extremist on the matter. And Andraste never said to annihilate those who don't share their belief. She was allied with Shartan, who I believe was faithful to the Creators. For what is my opinion of Andraste (which might be wrong, but we don't have proof) she wouln't be fine with Petrice's opinion. As she probably wasn't about the annihilation of the Dales (and probably of mages treatment in the Circle)

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Xilizhra wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

Out of curiosity, why?


Because my Hawke hates the qunari, so siding with Petrice was natural (I had to cheat via console). She thinks Petrice is right about the Qunari being cruel and barbaric, and a war with them is inevitable. Peatrice reminds me of Anders. They both murder a figure of compromise to escalate a situation and start a war they believe to be a righteous cause (I agree). Of course Anders strikes a blow against public opinion for the mages, while Petrice attempts to sway public opinion against the qunari (Ethina was more popular than Seamus).

Modifié par Barquiel, 22 octobre 2012 - 09:56 .


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Barquiel wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

Out of curiosity, why?


Because my Hawke hates the qunari, so siding with Petrice was natural (I had to cheat via console). She thinks Petrice is right about the Qunari being cruel and barbaric, and a war with them is inevitable. Peatrice reminds me of Anders. They both murder a figure of compromise to escalate a situation and start a war they believe to be a righteous cause (I agree). Of course Anders strikes a blow against public opinion for the mages, while Petrice attempts to sway public opinion against the qunari (Ethina was more popular than Seamus).

Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost.

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Well, I admit Bioware did an excellent job at making me hate a fictional character.

The only character from a game I hate more is Sophia Lamb from Bioshock 2.

Even just thinking about them makes me so enraged lmao

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KiwiQuiche wrote...

Well, I admit Bioware did an excellent job at making me hate a fictional character.

The only character from a game I hate more is Sophia Lamb from Bioshock 2.

Even just thinking about them makes me so enraged lmao

What?! Sophia was awesome! lol

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Terrorize69 wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Well, I admit Bioware did an excellent job at making me hate a fictional character.

The only character from a game I hate more is Sophia Lamb from Bioshock 2.

Even just thinking about them makes me so enraged lmao

What?! Sophia was awesome! lol


My hate for her was potent lol It got to the point I intentionally killed the Three (well, sometimes not Gracie) just so Eleanor would drown her :devil:

But you know you've gotten the characterization down to pat when you can make players loath a NPC.

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Terrorize69 wrote...


Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost.


I'd have condamned her regardless of my opinion of the Qunari, but the Qunari aren't that bad. Surely, you could consider people in the Qun as slaves (while they don't, and it's clearly shown with the Chantry having difficulty of re-educating the people that was under the Qun's territory), but it's not different from destroying the elven realm and making the elves second-class citizen, othen with only a little more right than slaves in the Tevinter Imperium, or treating mages like garbage (at least in Kirkwall). Petrice surely didn't have a problem with how the mages are treated in Kirkwall.

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KiwiQuiche wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Well, I admit Bioware did an excellent job at making me hate a fictional character.

The only character from a game I hate more is Sophia Lamb from Bioshock 2.

Even just thinking about them makes me so enraged lmao

What?! Sophia was awesome! lol


My hate for her was potent lol It got to the point I intentionally killed the Three (well, sometimes not Gracie) just so Eleanor would drown her Posted Image

But you know you've gotten the characterization down to pat when you can make players loath a NPC.


Maybe Sophia will turn up as a NPC in DA3 Posted Imagelol, but I agree, the most well done chars are those that people genuinely have strong feelings towards, both positive and negative.

Petrice would of made the best LI! Well, maybe tied with Merrill Posted Image.. or tied TO Merrill Posted Image

hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...


Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost.


I'd have condamned her regardless of my opinion of the Qunari, but the Qunari aren't that bad. Surely, you could consider people in the Qun as slaves (while they don't, and it's clearly shown with the Chantry having difficulty of re-educating the people that was under the Qun's territory), but it's not different from destroying the elven realm and making the elves second-class citizen, othen with only a little more right than slaves in the Tevinter Imperium, or treating mages like garbage (at least in Kirkwall). Petrice surely didn't have a problem with how the mages are treated in Kirkwall.

Fight fire with fire I guess, you heard the Qunari views on everyone in Kirkwall? Petrices were tame compared to their views.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

Fight fire with fire I guess, you heard the Qunari views on everyone in Kirkwall? Petrices were tame compared to their views.


Regardless of their views (which they're free to have), the Arishok didn't want to change the town, otherwise he would've done this from the moment he arrived in Kirkwall. The problem was that he was forced to stay in Kirkwall (which I don't think it's a good enough reason to do what he did, though).
And about their views on Kirkwall, I'd agree with him. The city was the perfect embodiement of everything that is corrupt and worthless in Thedas (not saying that there aren't good people, mind you. But I believe they were a small minority). The nobility was corrupted, the city was full of chaos, crime and violence, and even the two major sides in which the player should aid (mages and templars) shown their worst side, in a way that I protected the mages only because they weren't involved in Anders's action, so Meredith's decision was asinine to be gentle (and it didn't prevent me to being disappointed in seeing almost every mage, even during the final hours, recurring to blood magic and becoming abominations).
I highly hope that templars and mages will be better presented in the next game, otherwise I want to the option to beat both factions at the same time. I don't want to be forced to aid the faction that were presented in Kirkwall.

Modifié par hhh89, 22 octobre 2012 - 10:29 .


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Terrorize69 wrote...

Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost as long as the cost wasn't paid by her.


All she did was cook up Machiavelian plots to get other people killed in order to serve her cause.
She's an evil, deceptive, conniving snake and  I was glad when her head was ventilated.

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Pauravi wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost as long as the cost wasn't paid by her.


All she did was cook up Machiavelian plots to get other people killed in order to serve her cause.
She's an evil, deceptive, conniving snake and  I was glad when her head was ventilated.

She's not the only one who comes up with plots etc that will get others killed, all Hawkes companions did, and the rest fo his/her friends lol.

I know Posted Imagehot right Posted Image (Bolded part)

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Pauravi wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost as long as the cost wasn't paid by her.


All she did was cook up Machiavelian plots to get other people killed in order to serve her cause.
She's an evil, deceptive, conniving snake and  I was glad when her head was ventilated.


It was a good change of pace though in my opinion. Especially the Chantry scene when Petrice is all "Oh look, bunch of HEATHENS in here!"

And Elthina is just moreso "Ugh I'm tired of this sh!t." then after Petrice get's shot she's all "Oh and tell the Vicount, I've got some Chant to write down before I have a nap kthnx."

Also this gem;

"She's on to you, Petrice. Quick, lie harder!"

One of my fave lines in DA2; all my Hawke's say it, even the diplomats lmao

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 22 octobre 2012 - 10:42 .


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KiwiQuiche wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost as long as the cost wasn't paid by her.


All she did was cook up Machiavelian plots to get other people killed in order to serve her cause.
She's an evil, deceptive, conniving snake and  I was glad when her head was ventilated.


It was a good change of pace though in my opinion. Especially the Chantry scene when Petrice is all "Oh look, bunch of HEATHENS in here!"

And Elthina is just moreso "Ugh I'm tired of this sh!t." then after Petrice get's shot she's all "Oh and tell the Vicount, I've got some Chant to write down before I have a nap kthnx."

Also this gem;

"She's on to you, Petrice. Quick, lie harder!"

One of my fave lines in DA2; all my Hawke's say it, even the diplomats lmao

Lmao Posted Image

This is one of my faves with Petrice, "Thank you for all your help serah Hawke, I hope we meet again in the future.. and if you're lucky, I won't be wearing my robes." *Has a cheeky grin on her face*

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She betrayed me like, four freaking times, and I didn't even get to kill her off! Some nameless qunari dropped in, killed her, and vanished from existence! Freaking railroading much?

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Terrorize69 wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost as long as the cost wasn't paid by her.


All she did was cook up Machiavelian plots to get other people killed in order to serve her cause.
She's an evil, deceptive, conniving snake and  I was glad when her head was ventilated.

She's not the only one who comes up with plots etc that will get others killed, all Hawkes companions did, and the rest fo his/her friends lol.

I know Posted Imagehot right Posted Image (Bolded part)


Aveline didn't. Well, she certainly killed criminals, but she has a role to fulfill in the city. Anders and Merrill are apostares and Isabela is a pirate, so they're technically criminals for the society they live on. Sebastian's "victims" were criminals who killed his family and should be put to justice, either death or jail (and anyway Elthina criticized him). Fenris is "forces" to kill the Tevinter soldiers that came after him, it's necessary for survival. Bethany and Carver didn't plot anything. Varric is, well, Varric, an the people who he kills with his plots are mostly criminals. The Qunari have been granted a place in Kirkwall by the Viscount, so they shouldn't be killed unless they start to attack people.
Petrice acted more like a criminal than a priest.

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Lmao Posted Image

This is one of my faves with Petrice, "Thank you for all your help serah Hawke, I hope we meet again in the future.. and if you're lucky, I won't be wearing my robes." *Has a cheeky grin on her face*


You do know that she should be chaste by the rules of her religion, right?

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hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Petrice is the only one who see's the Qunari for what they are and actually does something about it, gotta respect that lolPosted Image She fought for the greater good, whatever the cost as long as the cost wasn't paid by her.


All she did was cook up Machiavelian plots to get other people killed in order to serve her cause.
She's an evil, deceptive, conniving snake and  I was glad when her head was ventilated.

She's not the only one who comes up with plots etc that will get others killed, all Hawkes companions did, and the rest fo his/her friends lol.

I know Posted Imagehot right Posted Image (Bolded part)


Aveline didn't. Well, she certainly killed criminals, but she has a role to fulfill in the city. Anders and Merrill are apostares and Isabela is a pirate, so they're technically criminals for the society they live on. Sebastian's "victims" were criminals who killed his family and should be put to justice, either death or jail (and anyway Elthina criticized him). Fenris is "forces" to kill the Tevinter soldiers that came after him, it's necessary for survival. Bethany and Carver didn't plot anything. Varric is, well, Varric, an the people who he kills with his plots are mostly criminals. The Qunari have been granted a place in Kirkwall by the Viscount, so they shouldn't be killed unless they start to attack people.
Petrice acted more like a criminal than a priest.


Aveline sent my mage to the Gallows! To get a Templar off her back, very suicidal for a rogue mage to walk casually up to a Templar and complain.

Merrill wanted my help to summon demons.

Anders had me sneaking in underground passages with crazy Templars.

Isabela unleashed the Qunari on me and Kirkwall.

Fenris blackmails me into the lair of a magistrate.

Varris convinces me to play with darkspawn.

And so on and so on..

The only difference between these and Petrice is Pretrice was blunt about risking our life.

hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...


Lmao Posted Image

This is one of my faves with Petrice, "Thank you for all your help serah Hawke, I hope we meet again in the future.. and if you're lucky, I won't be wearing my robes." *Has a cheeky grin on her face*


You do know that she should be chaste by the rules of her religion, right?

As you rightly pointly out, shes flexiable *swoon* over how she interprets the rules of the Chantry.

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hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...


Lmao Posted Image

This is one of my faves with Petrice, "Thank you for all your help serah Hawke, I hope we meet again in the future.. and if you're lucky, I won't be wearing my robes." *Has a cheeky grin on her face*


You do know that she should be chaste by the rules of her religion, right?


Don't think that's the right religion; Andraste was married to Maferath and was also the Maker's bride; she was a bit of a player. So I think Andraste wouldn't mind if her worshippers did some snu-snu on the side lmao