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[Terrorize69]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...


Lmao

This is one of my faves with Petrice, "Thank you for all your help serah Hawke, I hope we meet again in the future.. and if you're lucky, I won't be wearing my robes." *Has a cheeky grin on her face*

You do know that she should be chaste by the rules of her religion, right?

Don't think that's the right religion; Andraste was married to Maferath and was also the Maker's bride; she was a bit of a player. So I think Andraste wouldn't mind if her worshippers did some snu-snu on the side lmao

And lets not forget Leliana

[The Elder King]

Terrorize69 wrote...


Aveline sent my mage to the Gallows! To get a Templar off her back, very suicidal for a rogue mage to walk casually up to a Templar and complain.

Merrill wanted my help to summon demons.

Anders had me sneaking in underground passages with crazy Templars.

Isabela unleashed the Qunari on me and Kirkwall.

Fenris blackmails me into the lair of a magistrate.

Varris convinces me to play with darkspawn.

And so on and so on..

The only difference between these and Petrice is Pretrice was blunt about risking our life.

When Aveline send you to the Gallows? For a mission? That doesn't mean sending you to deah. And anyway you are a rogue mage in the city in which the templars have enormous power. Risking to be captured is a given.
Anders, Isabela and Merrill are technically criminals, which Petrice shouldn't be.
You could give Fenris the middle finger and you'll never see him again.
Considering that gaining wealth is your only choice to survive in Kirkwall (to gain enough power to protect you or your sister), I'd have taken Varric's offer even if it was optional. And I wanted to make the darkspwan pay for my brother's death.
The (not only) difference between these and Petrice is that Petrice wanted you dead, while your companion didn't.

[The Elder King]

Terrorize69 wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...


Lmao

This is one of my faves with Petrice, "Thank you for all your help serah Hawke, I hope we meet again in the future.. and if you're lucky, I won't be wearing my robes." *Has a cheeky grin on her face*

You do know that she should be chaste by the rules of her religion, right?

Don't think that's the right religion; Andraste was married to Maferath and was also the Maker's bride; she was a bit of a player. So I think Andraste wouldn't mind if her worshippers did some snu-snu on the side lmao

And lets not forget Leliana

Leliana's role in the Chantry (acolyte? Don't remember) doesn't require chastity. The initiates in the Chantry, and from them all the other ranks, require chastity and celibacy.
To respond to you and KiwiQuiche about celibacy and chastity, I agree that it's not a necessary rule (as I believe is not necessary for the RL religion), but you shouldn't break the rule if it's present. Try to change if you want, not violate it.

[InfinitePaths]

I would like to see her as a small cameo,nothing major,maybe if you side against the QUN in DA3 she will help you(but IMO if I am given a choice,I'd rather side with the Qunari in the invasion,I like them)

[Pauravi]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Aveline sent my mage to the Gallows! To get a Templar off her back, very suicidal for a rogue mage to walk casually up to a Templar and complain.

Merrill wanted my help to summon demons.

Anders had me sneaking in underground passages with crazy Templars.

Isabela unleashed the Qunari on me and Kirkwall.

Fenris blackmails me into the lair of a magistrate.

Varris convinces me to play with darkspawn.

And so on and so on..

The only difference between these and Petrice is Pretrice was blunt about risking our life.

O_o wat??

Varric is pretty straightforward about the dangers of the Deep Roads, and everyone knows what's down there anyway.  Merrill lets you know what she's doing beforehand, and even Anders (who I am not a fan of) let you know that you'd be confronting Templars.  Sure they ask you to do dangerous things, but that's basically your job.  Almost all of them tell you what's up beforehand, and none of them are actively trying to get you killed.  Petrice was specifically trying to get you killed, and was only blunt about it AFTER you survive her plot.

[BrowncoatN7]

She's dead in all my playthroughs, but it's not like that has stopped BioWare before.

Go away, Leliana. I chopped your head off, there's no way you can be alive.

[Terrorize69]

lament.ballad wrote...

She's dead in all my playthroughs, but it's not like that has stopped BioWare before.

Go away, Leliana. I chopped your head off, there's no way you can be alive.

Those truely devoted to the Maker have his divine protection and shall never die.

[The Elder King]

Terrorize69 wrote...

lament.ballad wrote...

She's dead in all my playthroughs, but it's not like that has stopped BioWare before.

Go away, Leliana. I chopped your head off, there's no way you can be alive.

Those truely devoted to the Maker have his divine protection and shall never die.

Oh yeah, because Leandra wasn't truly devoted to the Maker. Or Elthina. Or Andraste. Or countless other NPC in both games.

Modifié par hhh89, 22 octobre 2012 - 12:46 .

[Xilizhra]

To respond to you and KiwiQuiche about celibacy and chastity, I agree that it's not a necessary rule (as I believe is not necessary for the RL religion), but you shouldn't break the rule if it's present. Try to change if you want, not violate it.

Why? There's no purpose in following an unjust/unnecessary rule.

Also, I think Petrice was an idiot in the way she went about things and that killing Seamus went too far. The qunari are a threat, but trying to start a war won't hurt the main body of the qunari and would just leave Kirkwall in flames, so my Hawke opposed Petrice's efforts in the name of giving the qunari a peaceful exit.

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...

To respond to you and KiwiQuiche about celibacy and chastity, I agree that it's not a necessary rule (as I believe is not necessary for the RL religion), but you shouldn't break the rule if it's present. Try to change if you want, not violate it.

Why? There's no purpose in following an unjust/unnecessary rule.

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The rule in unnecessary, yes, but it's not like you're forced to be a priest (as you're force as a Circle mage to not have a child, or having the child taken from you). Petrice, like every priests, knew that she would've taken the vow of chastisty. If she wasn't prepared to do this, she should've decided to be an acolyte (or whatever Leliana was) and not a priest.
And anyway, that banter suggested an attitude similar to Isabela, which I don't think it's proper for a priest, even without the vow of chastity.

[Xilizhra]

hhh89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

To respond to you and KiwiQuiche about celibacy and chastity, I agree that it's not a necessary rule (as I believe is not necessary for the RL religion), but you shouldn't break the rule if it's present. Try to change if you want, not violate it.

Why? There's no purpose in following an unjust/unnecessary rule.

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The rule in unnecessary, yes, but it's not like you're forced to be a priest (as you're force as a Circle mage to not have a child, or having the child taken from you). Petrice, like every priests, knew that she would've taken the vow of chastisty. If she wasn't prepared to do this, she should've decided to be an acolyte (or whatever Leliana was) and not a priest.
And anyway, that banter suggested an attitude similar to Isabela, which I don't think it's proper for a priest, even without the vow of chastity.

The only way to do substantial amounts of good is to break out of what's "proper" for a priest anyway, at least in the DA universe. I'll concede that the banter was a tad silly (I... assume that it was made by Terrorize, as I've certainly never seen it in-game), but if you're going to talk about what priests should and should not do, I'd consider plotting assassinations to be more worthy of concern.

[Annie_Dear]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

Omg, but Petrice is not dead at all. When you side with Chantry you can murder Qunari heretics, and she  will thank you for your support and says she will stand by your side in the future. She might as well be a new Grand Cleric of Kirkwall.

And people complained about not having choices in DA2, if you don't even try other options, then of course there is no choice!

Just pointing something out: I tried to support her once, but I couldn't because only an agressive Hawke can do that.

Which is stupid.

[KingRoxas]

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...


The only way to do substantial amounts of good is to break out of what's "proper" for a priest anyway, at least in the DA universe. I'll concede that the banter was a tad silly (I... assume that it was made by Terrorize, as I've certainly never seen it in-game), but if you're going to talk about what priests should and should not do, I'd consider plotting assassinations to be more worthy of concern.

I already said that in my previous posts. Being a b##ch (literally) further proves that she should have choiced a different career to begin with.

[The Hierophant]

hhh89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


The only way to do substantial amounts of good is to break out of what's "proper" for a priest anyway, at least in the DA universe. I'll concede that the banter was a tad silly (I... assume that it was made by Terrorize, as I've certainly never seen it in-game), but if you're going to talk about what priests should and should not do, I'd consider plotting assassinations to be more worthy of concern.

I already said that in my previous posts. Being a b##ch (literally) further proves that she should have choiced a different career to begin with.

The Hierophant wrote...

Petrice would have made a good tavern wench.

[Xilizhra]

hhh89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


The only way to do substantial amounts of good is to break out of what's "proper" for a priest anyway, at least in the DA universe. I'll concede that the banter was a tad silly (I... assume that it was made by Terrorize, as I've certainly never seen it in-game), but if you're going to talk about what priests should and should not do, I'd consider plotting assassinations to be more worthy of concern.

I already said that in my previous posts. Being a b##ch (literally) further proves that she should have choiced a different career to begin with.

Eh, the Chantry's just a means of projecting tyranny, papered over by some very token charity projects. She didn't hurt any institutional virtue. Especially since I suspect Elthina put her up to it to begin with.

She didn't actually give that "robes" line, did she?

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


The only way to do substantial amounts of good is to break out of what's "proper" for a priest anyway, at least in the DA universe. I'll concede that the banter was a tad silly (I... assume that it was made by Terrorize, as I've certainly never seen it in-game), but if you're going to talk about what priests should and should not do, I'd consider plotting assassinations to be more worthy of concern.

I already said that in my previous posts. Being a b##ch (literally) further proves that she should have choiced a different career to begin with.

Eh, the Chantry's just a means of projecting tyranny, papered over by some very token charity projects. She didn't hurt any institutional virtue. Especially since I suspect Elthina put her up to it to begin with.

She didn't actually give that "robes" line, did she?

I doubt that instead, but it's not like we'll ever know. Plus, Petrice suggestes that she wanted a schism (os so I read in the wiki and in some dialogue posted somewhere), and from what I understood she wasn't too fond of Elthina (and I reallly doubt that her opinion of mages is too different from certain templar extremist in Kirkwall).
About the "robe" line, as I never saved her, I don't know. I hope that she didn't say that. Considering her personality, though , I don't think it's unlikely.

[Xilizhra]

I doubt that instead, but it's not like we'll ever know. Plus, Petrice suggestes that she wanted a schism (os so I read in the wiki and in some dialogue posted somewhere), and from what I understood she wasn't too fond of Elthina (and I reallly doubt that her opinion of mages is too different from certain templar extremist in Kirkwall).
About the "robe" line, as I never saved her, I don't know. I hope that she didn't say that. Considering her personality, though , I don't think it's unlikely.

Petrice's mage opinion is never stated, which I think is sort of unfortunate. As for that line, I assume it'd involve a flirtation line to bring about, but I've never seen one even that one time I did save her.

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...

I doubt that instead, but it's not like we'll ever know. Plus, Petrice suggestes that she wanted a schism (os so I read in the wiki and in some dialogue posted somewhere), and from what I understood she wasn't too fond of Elthina (and I reallly doubt that her opinion of mages is too different from certain templar extremist in Kirkwall).
About the "robe" line, as I never saved her, I don't know. I hope that she didn't say that. Considering her personality, though , I don't think it's unlikely.

Petrice's mage opinion is never stated, which I think is sort of unfortunate. As for that line, I assume it'd involve a flirtation line to bring about, but I've never seen one even that one time I did save her.

Then it was wishful thinking from the posters. Unless a certain dialogue option from Hawke is needed.
About the mage opinion, I know that she didn't express it, but I doubt it'd be a kind one.

[Terrorize69]

She expresses neither a positive view on mages or a negative view. Being a member of the Chantry it's likely her view is neutral on the subject. Both follow the teachings of the Maker, so Petrice would of had no issue with them, it's only heathens she expresses a dislike for.

Although when shes mentions the circle in the mission with the Qunari mage, she "seems" slightly sympathetic towards the treatment of those imprisoned. While that could of been an "act", she had no previous knowledge of Hwake, so she wouldn't of know if he/she was pro or anti-mage. Making her act slightly redundant and more genuine.

[Beerfish]

She will not be around because most players let he get assassinated in the chantry by a foreign occupying force.

In fact she was one of the most sensible characters in the game. I promised to help her in the future in a number of my games where she did not die.

[Xilizhra]

Terrorize69 wrote...

She expresses neither a positive view on mages or a negative view. Being a member of the Chantry it's likely her view is neutral on the subject. Both follow the teachings of the Maker, so Petrice would of had no issue with them, it's only heathens she expresses a dislike for.

Although when shes mentions the circle in the mission with the Qunari mage, she "seems" slightly sympathetic towards the treatment of those imprisoned. While that could of been an "act", she had no previous knowledge of Hwake, so she wouldn't of know if he/she was pro or anti-mage. Making her act slightly redundant and more genuine.

Yes, I did notice that... is it worth holding out any hope?
And did she actually have that line you mentioned?

She will not be around because most players let he get assassinated in the chantry by a foreign occupying force.

It's not really a matter of "letting." All Hawke needs to do is be angry about Seamus' assassination, and she gets shot by a qunari who walks in and then walks out again.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 22 octobre 2012 - 02:20 .

[Beerfish]

Xilizhra wrote...


It's not really a matter of "letting." All Hawke needs to do is be angry about Seamus' assassination, and she gets shot by a qunari who walks in and then walks out again.

Exactly, the player has no ability to stop the assassination, he/she just stands there.  He/she also has no recourse at all to do something about it other than accept it and do nothing.  BioWare made a wrong assumption on that part of the game.  That everyone would cheer and applaud Petrice getting killed. 

[chuckwells62]

During a latter playthrough I discovered that Petrice could survive and it was surprising to say the least. A pure rogue character who's out solely for personal profit or gain, and damned the consequences, is loads of fun to craft. Let Petrice, the Arishok, Danarius, Gascard & Castillon live, with the resulting deaths or betaryals of select squadmates, for an entirely different kind of Hawke.

Modifié par chuckwells62, 22 octobre 2012 - 02:27 .