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[Terrorize69]

Beerfish wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


It's not really a matter of "letting." All Hawke needs to do is be angry about Seamus' assassination, and she gets shot by a qunari who walks in and then walks out again.

Exactly, the player has no ability to stop the assassination, he/she just stands there.  He/she also has no recourse at all to do something about it other than accept it and do nothing.  BioWare made a wrong assumption on that part of the game.  That everyone would cheer and applaud Petrice getting killed. 

I think she's like Marmite... you either love her or you hate her

[The Elder King]

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Terrorize69 wrote...

She expresses neither a positive view on mages or a negative view. Being a member of the Chantry it's likely her view is neutral on the subject. Both follow the teachings of the Maker, so Petrice would of had no issue with them, it's only heathens she expresses a dislike for..

There are members of the Chantry who holds prejudice and disdain in regards of the mages. And Petrice isn't following the teachings of the Maker very good to begin with.

[Potato Cat]

Bat32391 wrote...

Why would you even want to keep her alive? She's a xenophobic zealot that needs to be put down.

Why wouldn't you? Without these characters, the game would be Animal Crossing without any form of conflict. These horrible characters like Petrice, Isolde and Vaughn might inspire great hatred amongst the fan base, but that's what makes them great, because they can inspire these strong feelings.

[The Elder King]

Elfman wrote...

Bat32391 wrote...

Why would you even want to keep her alive? She's a xenophobic zealot that needs to be put down.

Why wouldn't you? Without these characters, the game would be Animal Crossing without any form of conflict. These horrible characters like Petrice, Isolde and Vaughn might inspire great hatred amongst the fan base, but that's what makes them great, because they can inspire these strong feelings.

Isolde wasn't horrible. She didn't want to lose her child. She was stupid to act in the way, and she was certainly responsible for what happened (though Loghain and Jowan have more responsibility) but she wasn't at the same level of Vaughn and Petrice.

[Potato Cat]

hhh89 wrote...

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Terrorize69 wrote...

She expresses neither a positive view on mages or a negative view. Being a member of the Chantry it's likely her view is neutral on the subject. Both follow the teachings of the Maker, so Petrice would of had no issue with them, it's only heathens she expresses a dislike for..

There are members of the Chantry who holds prejudice and disdain in regards of the mages. And Petrice isn't following the teachings of the Maker very good to begin with.

To be fair, she thinks she's doing right by the Maker, as many terrorists or other zealots do, by attacking the thing that threatens what they believe so strongly in, (i.e. the Qunari). I don't think she's evil, she's more like a religious Loghain in my opinion.

And she'll likely have strong opinions against malifcarum, but the main threat is Qunari. If anything, she'll enlist the help of blood mages to stop the Qunari, and then turn on them when she can.

[Potato Cat]

hhh89 wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Bat32391 wrote...

Why would you even want to keep her alive? She's a xenophobic zealot that needs to be put down.

Why wouldn't you? Without these characters, the game would be Animal Crossing without any form of conflict. These horrible characters like Petrice, Isolde and Vaughn might inspire great hatred amongst the fan base, but that's what makes them great, because they can inspire these strong feelings.

Isolde wasn't horrible. She didn't want to lose her child. She was stupid to act in the way, and she was certainly responsible for what happened (though Loghain and Jowan have more responsibility) but she wasn't at the same level of Vaughn and Petrice.

She was kind of horrible, as an elf, I vaguely remember her saying soemthing fairly racist, but she did make lots of people hate her, which was my point. (I know I liked to use Jowan's ritual )

[The Elder King]

Elfman wrote...


She was kind of horrible, as an elf, I vaguely remember her saying soemthing fairly racist, but she did make lots of people hate her, which was my point. (I know I liked to use Jowan's ritual )

I forgot she was racist, though I don't think it was on the same level of Vaughn. And I doubt it was on the same level of racism as the merchan in Ostagar, who was looking for a redhead female elf, and accuse me even if I was male.
And I'm not saying that Vaughn and Petrice are horrible because their racist, but because of their actions.

[Potato Cat]

hhh89 wrote...

Elfman wrote...


She was kind of horrible, as an elf, I vaguely remember her saying something fairly racist, but she did make lots of people hate her, which was my point. (I know I liked to use Jowan's ritual )

I forgot she was racist, though I don't think it was on the same level of Vaughn. And I doubt it was on the same level of racism as the merchan in Ostagar, who was looking for a redhead female elf, and accuse me even if I was male.
And I'm not saying that Vaughn and Petrice are horrible because their racist, but because of their actions.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I'm saying they're horrible, but not exactly for all the same reasons. Vaughn for his out right evil, racist venom, Isolde for all her many, many flaws as a person and Petrice for her religious fanaticism. That's a weird word, by the way.

[Terrorize69]

I fail to see why Petrice is evil and horrible lol, shes only a **** towards a spoilt brat and a barbaric heathen race lol

[In Exile]

I kind of can't believe there's a mild positive sentiment toward Petrice.

[Palipride47]

In Exile wrote...

I kind of can't believe there's a mild positive sentiment toward Petrice.

There are people who apparently hate the Qunari so much they'll keep a xenophobic murderer alive 

[Terrorize69]

In Exile wrote...

I kind of can't believe there's a mild positive sentiment toward Petrice.

Lol and why wouldn't their be? She is one of the best NPCs introduced in DA2.

[The Elder King]

Terrorize69 wrote...

I fail to see why Petrice is evil and horrible lol, shes only a **** towards a spoilt brat and a barbaric heathen race lol

The "barbaric" race is more advanced then humanity. And people should have the freedom to believe what they will. Her opinion on the dalish (and maybe dwarves) is the probably the same of the one she has about the qunari. And between the humans and the dalish, the society who treat a certain part of the citizens of their society as  (which often aren't too different from the Tevinter slaves) is the human's.

Terrorize69 wrote...

In Exile wrote...

I kind of can't believe there's a mild positive sentiment toward Petrice.

Lol and why wouldn't their be? She is one of the best NPCs introduced in DA2.

Matter or opinion, I think she's one of the worst.

[Terrorize69]

hhh89 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

I fail to see why Petrice is evil and horrible lol, shes only a **** towards a spoilt brat and a barbaric heathen race lol

The "barbaric" race is more advanced then humanity. And people should have the freedom to believe what they will. Her opinion on the dalish (and maybe dwarves) is the probably the same of the one she has about the qunari. And between the humans and the dalish, the society who treat a certain part of the citizens of their society as  (which often aren't too different from the Tevinter slaves) is the human's.

Terrorize69 wrote...

In Exile wrote...

I kind of can't believe there's a mild positive sentiment toward Petrice.

Lol and why wouldn't their be? She is one of the best NPCs introduced in DA2.

Matter or opinion, I think she's one of the worst.

Which is why shes one of the best shes so well done that she inspires such hate.

[The Elder King]

Terrorize69 wrote...


Which is why shes one of the best shes so well done that she inspires such hate.

Isolde and Vaughn are two of the most hated character in Origins. They're not the best NPC in Origin at all.
And I don't remember saying that I hate her (if I used the word, I didn't intend to use it). I wan to kill her because I think she deserved it. My Hawke never hated her. He considered her a stupid person who was embracing her death with her actions. He was more bothered by the mouse in Gamlen's house than by Petrice.

[Sylvianus]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Who hopes that she will return in DA3 ?

Totally.

Me too !

Xilizhra wrote...

I concede, I found Petrice hotter than I should have.

The same ! :innocent:

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

This. She's alive in my game, so I hope my choice will matter regardless of how many people killed her.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 22 octobre 2012 - 06:16 .

[Potato Cat]

Palipride47 wrote...

In Exile wrote...

I kind of can't believe there's a mild positive sentiment toward Petrice.

There are people who apparently hate the Qunari so much they'll keep a xenophobic murderer alive 

I love the Qunari, but Hawke didn't. Plus, let's face it, she keeps things interesting!

[Sylvianus]

Xenophobic is an inappropriate word and doesn't fit Petrice. She's more a fanatic with her religion. She sees the Qun and the Qunari as a threat and believes that the war is inevitable.

As for being a murderer, lol. What does that even mean ? Hawk himself is a murderer.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 22 octobre 2012 - 06:29 .

[The Elder King]

Sylvianus wrote...

Xenophobic is a word inapropriate and doesn't fit Petrice. She's more a fanatic with her religion. She sees the Qun and the Qunari as a threat and believes that the war is inevitable.

As for being a murderer, lol. What does that even mean ? Hawk himself is a murderer.

Hawke isn'a priest.

[FINE HERE]

Sylvianus wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

This. She's alive in my game, so I hope my choice will matter regardless of how many people killed her.

But the Chantry building blew up... I'm pretty sure she's dead...

[Terrorize69]

hhh89 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Xenophobic is a word inapropriate and doesn't fit Petrice. She's more a fanatic with her religion. She sees the Qun and the Qunari as a threat and believes that the war is inevitable.

As for being a murderer, lol. What does that even mean ? Hawk himself is a murderer.

Hawke isn'a priest.

So its bad for priests to be murderers but anyone else is A-OK?

[Sylvianus]

So ? What's your point exactly ? What's so surprising with a priest that can kill to protect its faith ?

[Potato Cat]

FINE HERE wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

This. She's alive in my game, so I hope my choice will matter regardless of how many people killed her.

But the Chantry building blew up... I'm pretty sure she's dead...

We've been over this, she left the Chantry to oppose the Qunari more directly, (but still remaining firmly Andrastian).

[Wulfram]

In Exile wrote...

I kind of can't believe there's a mild positive sentiment toward Petrice.

She's totally hot.

And she's right about the threat of the Qunari.  Her mistake was sinking to their level.

[Sylvianus]

FINE HERE wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'd love to see her again. My "canon" Hawke saved her.

This. She's alive in my game, so I hope my choice will matter regardless of how many people killed her.

But the Chantry building blew up... I'm pretty sure she's dead...

Nope I think that if you keep her alive, she leaves the chantry in the act 3 before what happened. She wasn't anymore with Eltina and she wanted to create a schism.