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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Also I don't know where people get this crazy hourage from. I played the game through and read everything, opened everything, listened to everyone talk, did every sidequest and didn't skip anything and I got it done in 41 hours.
No idea how it takes people longer than that.


Because more then likely you didn't do everything. You may think you did, but there is no way you beat the game doing everything in 41 hours unless you played on easy, maybe normal. Lot's of hidden things in the game, quests that never pop up in your journal that are hidden in the codexs, a lot of things and people that are easy as hell to miss. Like I said unless you played one easy I don't see any way you can beat the game doing every little thing and reading all the codex in 41 hours.

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http://www.joystiq.c...ening-in-march/

The rumor seems to be spreading :P



I want to believe in this rumor, but is not very possible, this IS the age of DLC...

... and 15 hours seems low for Bioware standards.

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It would be great if it were true. (And David Gaider has said that he doesn't work on the DLC - so presumably he's up to something else...)

But no. March 2010 has got to be too early.

Modifié par Colenda, 31 décembre 2009 - 05:21 .


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Not really, development could have easily started months before the release of the actual game and with the cash backing and the size of the Dragon Age team it's possible. It's not the date that has me doubting the truth, rather the little details we know which make zero sense.

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I don't find the details that jarring - they can be explained away quite easily. For instance, I remember that MotB was initially advertised at having a shorter campaign than was in fact the case. Also, in the German article I read, it said that the main character was new, but not that they started at level one. If they started at level ten or fifteen, there might be good cause for raising the level cap.

But I won't get my hopes up.

ETA: To clarify, I know that MotB was developed by Obsidian. However, it shows how estimates of game time can change between the announcement and the release. In Bioware's case, the annoyance about the playing time of Warden's Keep may have discouraged them from giving overly optimistic game lengths.

Modifié par Colenda, 31 décembre 2009 - 05:46 .


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If RTO coming out Jan 5,2010 is any example of how/when this will come out, we will being waiting for a very long time. March will become Dec 2010 without a doubt. They will give a official release then totally disappear and March will come and go with no expansion. Their record so far speaks volumes ...

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Say it is 15 hours for the expansion, but that's fifteen hours times my 6 existing characters... That's not a bad price.




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drewciferpsn66 wrote...

If it is true I have to say kudos to Bioware for making not only a highly addictive game, and continuing to support it with content. BUT ALSO kudos for making your own rolling economy... I mean damn Dragon age is a gold mine waiting to be exploited with the fans and the love for this game if they just keep cranking out sizable content people like me are just gonna keep on buying it!


Agreed, sizeable content is the key to keeping me interested.  Small content is nice but I will probably only buy it after a large piece comes out which can justify a new playthrough. This game is addicitve enough that large new content will keep me coming back.

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Oh my, I guess we can only wait and see if this is true. It would be great if it was.

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Just found this link, that actually gives a price and listed under a dealer in New Zeland it seems;

kotaku.com/5437942/dragon-age-retail-expansion-coming-in-march

If lm reading it right, $40 for an exspansion...seems a little high?

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Interesting...

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Shadowulph wrote...

If RTO coming out Jan 5,2010 is any example of how/when this will come out, we will being waiting for a very long time. March will become Dec 2010 without a doubt. They will give a official release then totally disappear and March will come and go with no expansion. Their record so far speaks volumes ...



lol.

This post is exactly why they shouild never make any announcements until the product is finished. You will never make some people happy in and god forbid you slip past your announced release date by a week or so to fine tune the product. Well hell, the Hoi polloi will call for mass burnings at the stake.

Learn some patience.

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VanDraegon wrote...

Shadowulph wrote...

If RTO coming out Jan 5,2010 is any example of how/when this will come out, we will being waiting for a very long time. March will become Dec 2010 without a doubt. They will give a official release then totally disappear and March will come and go with no expansion. Their record so far speaks volumes ...



lol.

This post is exactly why they shouild never make any announcements until the product is finished. You will never make some people happy in and god forbid you slip past your announced release date by a week or so to fine tune the product. Well hell, the Hoi polloi will call for mass burnings at the stake.

Learn some patience.





I do have patience! I'm just going by their record to date. I love DA:O<3 and have Biopoints pre-ordered for RTO:wizard:. My whole complaint:crying: is that they will announce this like they did with RTO then not say anything for weeks on end or make up some excuse as to why it is late-_- Keep us updated with Honesty and we will be fine, if it takes more time tell us the truth as to why, period:happy:

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Shadowulph wrote...
I do have patience! I'm just going by their record to date. I love DA:O<3 and have Biopoints pre-ordered for RTO:wizard:. My whole complaint:crying: is that they will announce this like they did with RTO then not say anything or make up some excuse as to why it is late-_-


So, you dont believe them when they say that the certification process is taking longer than they thought? Why would they bother to lie about it?

They did post a couple of updates about the dlc in that RtO thread, if you care to wade through it and find them. Better they take their time and get it right than release something before it is ready. They originally said it would be out during the "holiday season". Well, it looks like they will miss that by 5 days. No big deal.

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VanDraegon wrote...

Shadowulph wrote...
I do have patience! I'm just going by their record to date. I love DA:O<3 and have Biopoints pre-ordered for RTO:wizard:. My whole complaint:crying: is that they will announce this like they did with RTO then not say anything or make up some excuse as to why it is late-_-


So, you dont believe them when they say that the certification process is taking longer than they thought? Why would they bother to lie about it?

They did post a couple of updates about the dlc in that RtO thread, if you care to wade through it and find them. Better they take their time and get it right than release something before it is ready. They originally said it would be out during the "holiday season". Well, it looks like they will miss that by 5 days. No big deal.


I posted several times in the RTO thread for them to respond and they didnt! For over 2 weeks we didnt hear anything and I could care less about it being the holiday season. They could have just said it was late due to technical problems or something but to leave us hanging like that is just bad business practices...

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Shadowulph wrote...
I posted several times in the RTO thread for them to respond and they didnt! For over 2 weeks we didnt hear anything and I could care less about it being the holiday season. They could have just said it was late due to technical problems or something but to leave us hanging like that is just bad business practices...



No, bad business practices is to respond to every demand for attention and information from a bunch of forum posters.

Two weeks without them saying anything? Oh Noez! Obviously the world is ending! :blink:  Two weeks is not a long time. As i said, learn some patience.

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we shall see

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Well now that the mods are locking and directing us to this thread...any chance someone in the know can clear the air, please?:)

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It is possible, considering that DA was mostly done by April 2009, the
time between then and November was used for bug fixing, optimizing,
Shale add-on and console ports.

I choose to be optimist and hope that this news will come true.

Is it really going to be 15 hours though? To me, a full-fledged expansion should be at least 30 hours, at least that's what Throne of Bhaal and Mask of the Betrayer conditioned me to believe.

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Considering that many of the sites that listed this "expansion" now no longer have it listed, I'd say it's a rumor only, especially since there wasn't a listing for a PS3 version on any of them.

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hereticeyes wrote...

It is possible, considering that DA was mostly done by April 2009, the
time between then and November was used for bug fixing, optimizing,
Shale add-on and console ports.

I choose to be optimist and hope that this news will come true.

Is it really going to be 15 hours though? To me, a full-fledged expansion should be at least 30 hours, at least that's what Throne of Bhaal and Mask of the Betrayer conditioned me to believe.


If it's the first part of a serialized expansion, that would be great.  That's what it would appear to be, since they are raising the level cap yet only giving us a campaign that gets you to level 15.

Reaaaaaaally want this to be true!  :o

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ladydesire wrote...

Considering that many of the sites that listed this "expansion" now no longer have it listed, I'd say it's a rumor only, especially since there wasn't a listing for a PS3 version on any of them.


What sites, l still see it listed under Ps3fanyboy and Kotaku.

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If it's the first part of a serialized expansion, that would be great.  That's what it would appear to be, since they are raising the level cap yet only giving us a campaign that gets you to level 15.

Reaaaaaaally want this to be true!  :o


That would be a good idea. Several linked 15 hours chapters that offer continuity still amounts to an epic campaign in the end. It would be like dividing DA:O into 6 DLCs.

I think releasing a long campaign in chapters of 15 or so hours was how Valve originally envisionned DLCs to work.

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Colenda wrote...

I don't find the details that jarring - they can be explained away quite easily. For instance, I remember that MotB was initially advertised at having a shorter campaign than was in fact the case. Also, in the German article I read, it said that the main character was new, but not that they started at level one. If they started at level ten or fifteen, there might be good cause for raising the level cap.

But I won't get my hopes up.

ETA: To clarify, I know that MotB was developed by Obsidian. However, it shows how estimates of game time can change between the announcement and the release. In Bioware's case, the annoyance about the playing time of Warden's Keep may have discouraged them from giving overly optimistic game lengths.


Starting a level 10 or 15 on a fresh character is somewhat, dumb, and accomplishes nothing and serves no real purpose to either the expansion or the OC. MotB essentially carried your character and his story over from the OC with the option to create a new one if you so choose that was a "canon" character so to speak, hence why the level had a minimum start.

Like I said, I just don't think 15-20 hours would really get the job done for a Bioware/Gaider style game and story on a character starting from scratch, unless as I said it's episodic and we get one of these packs every few months. The level cap raise is also an odd feature because aside from using a glicth the highest you can get is 23 at the moment in the OC with both Stone Prisoner and WK, RtO may make it so one can get up to 24. So why there needs to be a level cap raise in an expansion that doesn't continue on with the Warden is beyond me because it easily could have been implemented in a patch to resolve any possible issues with the DLC adding XP to the final tally.

What little info is there just doesn't make any sense to me at the moment hence why I'm assuming this rumor is either completely false or seriously misinformed. We'll see what, if anything, comes from Bioware this month.

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Why are some surprised that some players took even up to 100 hours to play DAO ? Just the getting your look right in the character creator alone takes 50 hours, lol.