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[michaeljm90]

Seems rather similar to how they organised the expansions with Baldure's Gate

[Pluto66]

I love bioware!Keep the expansions coming!

[Shadowulph]

The expansion needs to open up the continent. We have to go west/northwest and explore all those lands on the map!

[st6212]

Don't know if it's been mentioned before, but the DA:O comic book is coming out March...maybe there is something to the rumour. Simultaneous release? The comic maybe the prelude to set the stage for the expansion?

*cross fingers*

Modifié par st6212, 02 janvier 2010 - 04:23 .

[EJon]

All im going to say is don't be so disappointed when you find out its only a rumor. I know you guys want to believe it, but lets come back to the reality here.



"Details of the expansion's contents are still only preliminary and may still change. Awareness will follow the story chronologically Dragon Age: Origins and promises a huge portion of the additional content. You play as a completely new main character, including his own prologue (separate Origin Story), the new campaign. Completion of the central storyline to take approximately 15 hours, as compared to the 100-hour original is not too much, and have consequences for the rest of the game.



Do the young men you can recruit new characters and jointly explore hitherto unknown part of the map of the world. Level cap increases over the 20th level and of course become new enemies and equipment.



Official announcement from Electronic Arts expansion expected sometime early January."



Why would Bioware release this? Its not an "expansion" but another game with other characters and new origins and enemies, on top of the fact that its only 15 hours. Lets say about 6-8 for the average gamer. It would make no sense at all. You honestly believe this is true? I could come up with a better lie than this.

[lisakover]

maybe the comic is dragon age: awakening? the the .nz website got confused

[Targonis1]

One thing to consider is that if a company wanted to make a game larger, they could just delay it by 6-12 months, and then you end up with a larger game that has cost more to make for the same initial sale price you would expect. Now, if the full game seems too short, that might be worth the trade-off, but if the game seems to have enough content, then delaying just to add more content would be foolish when the cost to pay the developers is higher than most people seem to realize.



So, DLC....they release the game, and then as new content gets completed, it becomes available for an extra cost. At some point, a deluxe version may be released with a bunch of that DLC in order to prop up sales of the base game(get new customers, while DLC sales are there to get money from the existing customer base.



An expansion is there, like DLC, to get money from the existing customer base, as well as to encourage sales of the base game. A game starts to lose sales after several months, so a push to get a product back on store shelves DOES tend to bring in more new customers as well.



Now, an expansion should provide more than just some extra content(which could be done via DLC), and offer extra features, or a continuation of the story. Will that happen with DA:O? Only time will tell.

[EJon]

I wasn't around for BG so i don't know how that went. But i hope Bioware doesn't just make an expansion, or sequel for that matter, where you aren't able to play as your PC from Origins. That would be a major disappointment after going through all of the conversations, and building friendships or whatever with the characters. All the time and effort put into that just to have the character pushed to the side. If the new origin and campaign were an additional origin you get to choose at the beginning of origins, then that would be cool. But they say new character and enemies.. i'm not saying that the rumor is true, but if it is - then i hope Bioware doesn't screw this up. I would like to continue with my character for at least one more game.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

EJon wrote...

This is fake, you guys do realize that right?

We have the same amount of evidence it is real that you have it is fake.  Which is none.  :P:P

Why do you create another character for 15 hours of gameplay? That'd just be basically another game - not an expansion pack. A legitimate expansion pack will allow you to use your same PC. Don't be fooled...

Ignorance is bliss!  Here is a single data point that invalidates your argument:  http://en.wikipedia....es_of_the_Sith  (Your argument is invalid, I am an internet hyperlink.)  I could go on and point out Half Life's Blue Shift and Opp Forces, but I'm going to ****** your baloon with a single link.

To further sink your battleship, I'll point out episodic games are being kicked around by Lucas Arts these days.  The are releasing those Monkey Island games in episodes...  The rumors is that these 15 hours are an episode of some sort of expansion pack.

Is any of it true?  We have zero idea.    COULD it be true?  Sure!     But BioWare will tell us eventually and then we'll all either instantly abandon these threads and get our OMG on for the next DLC/XPack, or we'll be like "damn them wacky Czechs are good for leaks!" 

[Dragon Age1103]

I don't understand why they would take longer than March. lol. I mean they said they had a 2 year window & while I enjoy the DLC I would much rather not have them milk me for $5 a month & actually put out an expansion!!

[EJon]

Not exactly true. Evidence enough is that they didn't cite any sources, which leads me to believe that they made it up. This is how rumors spread. It comes from one site, then another sees it on that site and posts it on his/her site - and it spreads like a plague. The internet is worse with rumors, so if you want to believe it because you see it on multiple sites now - you go ahead. But they're all drawing that conclusion based on the first site. If the expansion pack is true, why not say where you got the information from, or quote a developer who said it to you, or leaked it to you? You can't believe everything you see on the internet. Thats immature thinking right there.



I'll continue to not believe this rumor unless Bioware themselves confirms it, not some random website probably trying to get more hits or something.

[Dragon Age1103]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Also I don't know where people get this crazy hourage from. I played the game through and read everything, opened everything, listened to everyone talk, did every sidequest and didn't skip anything and I got it done in 41 hours.
No idea how it takes people longer than that.

you must be the worlds fastest reader ever!!!!! lol. My first play through was 81 hours, I did more than 75% of the side quests & I probably didn't read more than 1/3 of the codex entries. so congrats on being the fastest reader ever!!!!!!

[evilhouseboat]

Does new origin story imply new class / playable race? i.e. the stone prisoner



The would merit another play through.

[Sylvius the Mad]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

I played it through on Normal and completed everything, read every codex entry, did every hidden quest. 41 hours.

I'm a very experienced RPG player so maybe this comes into account. But anything over 50 hours on 1 playthrough...I mean...what the hell?

Did you have plot helpers turned on?  That speeds up the game considerably.  There are some quests that are impossible without them unless you do exhaustive searches of some maps (after you've probably already completed them and killed everything).

You say you opened everything - did you go back to open everything you couldn't open the first time through?

[Dragon Age1103]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

I played it through on Normal and completed everything, read every codex entry, did every hidden quest. 41 hours.

I'm a very experienced RPG player so maybe this comes into account. But anything over 50 hours on 1 playthrough...I mean...what the hell?

Did you have plot helpers turned on?  That speeds up the game considerably.  There are some quests that are impossible without them unless you do exhaustive searches of some maps (after you've probably already completed them and killed everything).

You say you opened everything - did you go back to open everything you couldn't open the first time through?

 Thata another thing too you played on normal that would cut your play time in half. I mean you can't really die on normal if you're experienced with this genre. You probably finished with no injuries to any party members on that difficulty. So that probably cut a lot of time out from having to use strategy & tactics to overcome different bosses & sections of the game.

[MerinTB]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

I played it through on Normal and completed everything, read every codex entry, did every hidden quest. 41 hours.

I'm a very experienced RPG player so maybe this comes into account. But anything over 50 hours on 1 playthrough...I mean...what the hell?

Did you have plot helpers turned on?  That speeds up the game considerably.  There are some quests that are impossible without them unless you do exhaustive searches of some maps (after you've probably already completed them and killed everything).

You say you opened everything - did you go back to open everything you couldn't open the first time through?

Real question - did you use a strategy guide or walkthrough?

With a strategy guide, a plan made ahead of time, and the will I probably could "burn" through DAO in 30 hours while not skipping dialog and reading all the codexes.

[TheMadCat]

We have the same amount of evidence it is real that you have it is fake. Which is none. /images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png

No evidence to conclude anything either way, but I think more points to it being a hoax or way off base then any real truth. Between the misinformation about the level cap, the lack of ANY source they received this info, incredible vagueness, and the fact the original site with the leak stated "this information should be enjoyed with caution" tends to weigh heavily towards the fake side of the bar.

At the moment I think the most damning thing against it is the fact that none of the bigger sites, (IGN, Gamespot, Gamespy, ect.) have even posted the rumor. Generally these are the sites who do have the reliable srouces, the people they can call to get a general confirmation, denial, no comment type thing on a rumor or story. Right now the rumor is going around with a bunch of small fires and Kotaku which is a freakin' rumor mill and is right about as often as a blue moon. So the fact the big boys are ignoring what I assume would be monsterous gaming news leads me to believe it has little credibility.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 02 janvier 2010 - 11:46 .

[Dargor Icarus]

The expansion should add an open world exploration mode or something. I after finishing the game to at least be able to kill some bandits and/or darkspawn to remind em fo the good old days hehe

[Dargor Icarus]

The expansion should add an open world exploration mode or something. I after finishing the game to at least be able to kill some bandits and/or darkspawn to remind em fo the good old days hehe

[Mich-cz]

EJon wrote...
Not exactly true. Evidence enough is that they didn't cite any sources, which leads me to believe that they made it up. This is how rumors spread. It comes from one site, then another sees it on that site and posts it on his/her site - and it spreads like a plague. The internet is worse with rumors, so if you want to believe it because you see it on multiple sites now - you go ahead. But they're all drawing that conclusion based on the first site. If the expansion pack is true, why not say where you got the information from, or quote a developer who said it to you, or leaked it to you? You can't believe everything you see on the internet. Thats immature thinking right there.
I'll continue to not believe this rumor unless Bioware themselves confirms it, not some random website probably trying to get more hits or something.

The original info comes from this gameshop - translate.google.cz/translate
And let's say it is most trustful and biggest gamestore there and there is no doubt it has some contacts to local EA office.
I honestly don't know why would they want to mystify their customers and harm themselves in the eyes of local distributor.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

TheMadCat wrote...

At the moment I think the most damning thing against it is the fact that none of the bigger sites, (IGN, Gamespot, Gamespy, ect.) have even posted the rumor. Generally these are the sites who do have the reliable srouces, the people they can call to get a general confirmation, denial, no comment type thing on a rumor or story. Right now the rumor is going around with a bunch of small fires and Kotaku which is a freakin' rumor mill and is right about as often as a blue moon. So the fact the big boys are ignoring what I assume would be monsterous gaming news leads me to believe it has little credibility.

Fair enough, but site like Blues News and VE3D (IGN) could get quotes from the developers if they wanted to.  They both carried the story of the Czech site's post.  I don't recall reading about any denials, so that's interesting. 

[kalerab]

TheMadCat wrote...

No evidence to conclude anything either way, but I think more points to it being a hoax or way off base then any real truth. Between the misinformation about the level cap, the lack of ANY source they received this info, incredible vagueness, and the fact the original site with the leak stated "this information should be enjoyed with caution" tends to weigh heavily towards the fake side of the bar.

At the moment I think the most damning thing against it is the fact that none of the bigger sites, (IGN, Gamespot, Gamespy, ect.) have even posted the rumor. Generally these are the sites who do have the reliable srouces, the people they can call to get a general confirmation, denial, no comment type thing on a rumor or story. Right now the rumor is going around with a bunch of small fires and Kotaku which is a freakin' rumor mill and is right about as often as a blue moon. So the fact the big boys are ignoring what I assume would be monsterous gaming news leads me to believe it has little credibility.

In fact EuroGamer.cz is one of the biggest Czech gamer websites and their articles are always trustworthy and well sourced, plus they have connections in biggest companies like EA Czech Republic so if they say this info got leaked on internet stores I believe them, if they say it is going to cost around 35e, it will be released at 19th march and EA will announce it in January it means they have something solid to back-up their story. They are not Kotaku, plus as was mentioned Gamespot wrote about it as well.

Modifié par kalerab, 03 janvier 2010 - 01:51 .

[TheMadCat]

kalerab wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

No evidence to conclude anything either way, but I think more points to it being a hoax or way off base then any real truth. Between the misinformation about the level cap, the lack of ANY source they received this info, incredible vagueness, and the fact the original site with the leak stated "this information should be enjoyed with caution" tends to weigh heavily towards the fake side of the bar.

At the moment I think the most damning thing against it is the fact that none of the bigger sites, (IGN, Gamespot, Gamespy, ect.) have even posted the rumor. Generally these are the sites who do have the reliable srouces, the people they can call to get a general confirmation, denial, no comment type thing on a rumor or story. Right now the rumor is going around with a bunch of small fires and Kotaku which is a freakin' rumor mill and is right about as often as a blue moon. So the fact the big boys are ignoring what I assume would be monsterous gaming news leads me to believe it has little credibility.

In fact EuroGamer.cz is one of the biggest Czech gamer websites and their articles are always trustworthy and well sourced, plus they have connections in biggest companies like EA Czech Republic so if they say this info got leaked on internet stores I believe them, if they say it is going to cost around 35e, it will be released at 19th march and EA will announce it in January it means they have something solid to back-up their story. They are not Kotaku, plus as was mentioned Gamespot wrote about it as well.

You'll have to understand my doubts if a rumor involving two of the biggest game companies in North America and arguably the biggest game released this year comes solely from a website in the Czech Republic with absolutely zero indication of who their source is. They may be right, but at the moment there is much more leaning against them then in their favor. And I haven't seen anything mentioned on it at Gamespot aside from user posted stuff, you have a link to the article?

Fair enough, but site like Blues News and VE3D (IGN) could get
quotes from the developers if they wanted to.  They both carried the
story of the Czech site's post.  I don't recall reading about any
denials, so that's interesting.

I've
heard of VE3D, never heard of Blues News. The problem with VE3D is it's
just like wiki if I remember right, users can go on and post articles
at will. Whatever, we'll know for sure within a few weeks.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 03 janvier 2010 - 03:25 .

[TheMadCat]

Bah, messed up my edit.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 03 janvier 2010 - 03:25 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

I played it through on Normal and completed everything, read every codex entry, did every hidden quest. 41 hours.

I'm a very experienced RPG player so maybe this comes into account. But anything over 50 hours on 1 playthrough...I mean...what the hell?

Did you have plot helpers turned on?  That speeds up the game considerably.  There are some quests that are impossible without them unless you do exhaustive searches of some maps (after you've probably already completed them and killed everything).

You say you opened everything - did you go back to open everything you couldn't open the first time through?

Thata another thing too you played on normal that would cut your play time in half.

Playing on Hard (the only level playing field), it took me 45 hours to get through the origin, the two DLCs, and two of the main quest areas.  I hadn't even visited the other three major areas at that point.