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[Clover Rider]

Blastback wrote...

The whole AvX thing really came off pretty bad. Neither side came out looking very good in my opinion. For the most part, I'm just ignoring it.

Cyclops was possessed by the Phoenix, ended poverty in the world, gave the people unlimited energy and created world peace, yet the Avengers and Xavier kept attacking him and throwing sh!t in his face, including assassination attempts. Cyke kept telling his people that he didn't want a war, but at one point enough is enough.

No one was "good" but you can see who the "badguys" were. But I do agree with you about ignoring AvX.

Modifié par Some Geth, 24 octobre 2012 - 08:24 .

[Blastback]

Thing is, I never bought the justification of risking the fate of the planet on the chance that the Phoenix would make more mutants. Repowering the old ones okay, or if it was a heat of the moment thing where it was embrace the Phoenix or have all the remaining mutants die heck yeah but not turning a bunch of people with no connection or desire to be mutants into mutants.

Ultimatly, the justification was that this was nessecary to save the mutant species. But the execution makes me feel that it wasn't nessecary. And that Cyclops has probably ruined the lives of a lot of people by giving them superpowers that they will be persecuted for.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Some Geth wrote...
Marvel on the other hand... So what have we learned from Civil War? Iron Man wasn't evil enough.

[Clover Rider]

I think the reason people with superpowers still get persecuted is because of crap like Civil War and AvX. :/

I do agree with you that writing was not good. But I want to say that at least Scott was in character during it all... What was Captain Unamerica's excuse for attacking an extinct species? Besides the fact Marvel likes the Avengers better.

Modifié par Some Geth, 24 octobre 2012 - 08:57 .

[Blastback]

Some Geth wrote...

I think the reason people with superpowers still get persecuted is because of crap like Civil War and AvX. :/

I do agree with you that writing was not good. But I want to say that at least Scott was in character during it all... What was Captain Unamerica's excuse for attacking an extinct species? Besides the fact Marvel likes the Avengers better.

That's what marks it as a bad story.  In order for it to work, they had to write Cap out of character.  Which is why I can ignore it pretty easy.

[Clover Rider]

It might have worked better if the story was waaaaaaay back when Iron Man was the führer leader.

Modifié par Some Geth, 24 octobre 2012 - 09:02 .

[Blastback]

Tony is more of a do as I say not as I do kind of guy. I could see him being the hardass.

But ultimatly, this is just another example of Marvel wanting a big event to boost sales by upsetting the status quo.

Though I will say, Uncanny Avengers looks really good. But Remender has been awesome so far...

[Clover Rider]

The only good thing about Uncanny Avengers is the creative team. I HATE that the X-Men are now going to be with the Avengers and the line-up just makes me cringe. Rogue has been terrible for years, Scarlet Witch lost all sympathy, Thor and Cap are grade A douchejerks, Wolverine is Wolverine (I liked him before he became a race traitor) and Havok is just there because Marvel needs another straight white male to push. And it doesn't even make sense from an in-story explanation. This book is supposedly about showing how mutants aren't all bad, yet all these guys (except Havok) are murderers, former terrorists or people who work outside the law to do dirty work.

Why not add some women like Storm and Kitty who have actually already tried to bridge the human/mutant divide and don't have a laundry lists of criminal activities. I mean Thor is neither a human nor a mutant for crying out loud.

Modifié par Some Geth, 24 octobre 2012 - 09:06 .

[Blastback]

Honestly, I could never bring myself to be upset at Scarlet Witch. She had a mental breakdown. Recently when she realised what it was she did she tried to kill herself for it. And it was revealed that Doom had somehow manipulated or controled her.

But maybe it's my own history of psycological issues that make me more sympathetic to characters like her or Hank Pym.

Honestly, I wasn't offended or upset by anyone's actions in AvX. I just couldn't be bothered to care. I know who the characters are and what they stand for. If I have to flee into the world of personal cannon, fanfiction and RPG's I will,

[Clover Rider]

I want to like Scarlet Witch, I just wish they would fix her character a little. That Doom stuff didn't help, next you will tell me Doom was why Spider-Man made the deal with the devil.

And the point still stands that she is not really the best fit for the team.

I get offended and upset by Marvel's crap because I want them to do better. I don't like seeing heroes being a-holes for stupid reasons. Personal cannon is fine and all, but I want my comics to be good.

Modifié par Some Geth, 24 octobre 2012 - 09:29 .

[Blastback]

Also, my impression is that Rogue stumbles into membership on the team, they might not have been planning to pick her. And the fact that she's been an Avenger for so long makes Scarlet Witch more acceptable than most of the X-men in the public's eyes, even with her past.

I can actually get leaving Storm off the roster, for two reasons. One, because of the Avengers connection to Black Panther, it might be to painful for her to work with them right now (not to mention maybe Marvel just wants to give the two characters as much space as possible so that we forget about the dumb marrige.) Two, she's really the main leader the X-men have left. They need her.

Edit: oh agreed, I want my heroes to be heroes, not a bunch of superpowered jackasses.  I can accept well done character development, but not just, hey, we need Cap to suddenly turn into an unreasonalbe hard liner. 

Makes me miss Marvel Adventures...

Modifié par Blastback, 24 octobre 2012 - 09:34 .

[Blastback]

Also, this is why I started fleeing to Cosmic Marvel.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Some Geth wrote...

One of the best cartoons I've seen in years, God I'll miss you Brave and the Bold.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 24 octobre 2012 - 10:00 .

[Clover Rider]

Blastback wrote...

Also, my impression is that Rogue stumbles into membership on the team, they might not have been planning to pick her. And the fact that she's been an Avenger for so long makes Scarlet Witch more acceptable than most of the X-men in the public's eyes, even with her past.

I can actually get leaving Storm off the roster, for two reasons. One, because of the Avengers connection to Black Panther, it might be to painful for her to work with them right now (not to mention maybe Marvel just wants to give the two characters as much space as possible so that we forget about the dumb marrige.) Two, she's really the main leader the X-men have left. They need her.

Edit: oh agreed, I want my heroes to be heroes, not a bunch of superpowered jackasses.  I can accept well done character development, but not just, hey, we need Cap to suddenly turn into an unreasonalbe hard liner. 

Makes me miss Marvel Adventures...

If the story reasons for them being on the team are good/make sense, I will be happy.

See it's one thing to make Scott a dark character, but Cap? No. And the worst thing is, Marvel does not even get why it was wrong for him to act that way.

Modifié par Some Geth, 24 octobre 2012 - 10:29 .

[Nerevar-as]

Blastback wrote...

Also, this is why I started fleeing to Cosmic Marvel.

DnA material was very good IMHO, but sadly now it´s gone to Bendis (pse) and Loeb .

[Blastback]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Also, this is why I started fleeing to Cosmic Marvel.

DnA material was very good IMHO, but sadly now it´s gone to Bendis (pse) and Loeb .

What are they writing?

Bendis has his moments, but he usually misses with me more than he hits.  Honestly, he seems to enjoy tourturing and killing characters to much. 

I hate Loeb's current work, but at the same time, I really just feel bad for him.  It's obvous that he's just never been able to get over his son's death.

[wsandista]

Blastback wrote...

What are they writing?

Bendis is the current writer for Avengers and will be writing Guardians of the Galaxy and All New X-men. Loeb is currently on Wolverine and will go to Nova in February.

Not my favorite writers by any means. I will say that Loeb is better than Bendis though.

[Clover Rider]

Loeb was never a good writer to begin with. I mean, I really am sorry about his son's death but it didn't take away Loeb's "skill" as a writer.

Modifié par Some Geth, 25 octobre 2012 - 02:36 .

[wsandista]

So did anyone find anything good yesterday?

Are there any characters that you would like to see get a series that don't currently have one?

I for one, would love to see a new Doctor Strange series.

[Blastback]

Some Geth wrote...

Loeb was never a good writer to begin with. I mean, I really am sorry about his son's death but it didn't take away Loeb's "skill" as a writer.

I liked the long Halloween.  It's not the perfect masterpiece that some folks hold it up as, but I thought it was solid.

Hush was flawed, but it had some great moments. 

[Blastback]

wsandista wrote...

Blastback wrote...

What are they writing?

Bendis is the current writer for Avengers and will be writing Guardians of the Galaxy and All New X-men. Loeb is currently on Wolverine and will go to Nova in February.

Not my favorite writers by any means. I will say that Loeb is better than Bendis though.

I knew Bendis was taking over the X-men.  Not to happy with him on Guardians.  But I heard a lot of good about their apperance in Avengers Assemble, so who knows.

At least Loeb is only writing the new Nova, not the real one....

[Lotion Soronarr]

MEh...
X-Men fail at the very message they want to send.

Mutants are dangerous and should be registered or locked up.

Irony.

[wsandista]

Blastback wrote...

I knew Bendis was taking over the X-men.  Not to happy with him on Guardians.  But I heard a lot of good about their apperance in Avengers Assemble, so who knows.

I don't know if he is taking over all X-Men titles, just All New X-Men, which involves time travel or something. Might be a good concept, but I don't think that Bendis can pull it off.

At least Loeb is only writing the new Nova, not the real one....

Small miracles. 

[Foolsfolly]

wsandista wrote...

Blastback wrote...

What are they writing?

Bendis is the current writer for Avengers and will be writing Guardians of the Galaxy and All New X-men. Loeb is currently on Wolverine and will go to Nova in February.

Not my favorite writers by any means. I will say that Loeb is better than Bendis though.

I'd actually say Bendis is the better writer. I liked his Daredevil and Ultimate Spider-Man (the first 100 issues anyway). I can't think of anything of Loeb's I've liked. And his Marvel work has been completely dreadful. His name on a comic is now a sure-fire way to ensure I will not pick up that comic.

[wsandista]

Foolsfolly wrote...

I'd actually say Bendis is the better writer. I liked his Daredevil and Ultimate Spider-Man (the first 100 issues anyway). I can't think of anything of Loeb's I've liked. And his Marvel work has been completely dreadful. His name on a comic is now a sure-fire way to ensure I will not pick up that comic.

I couldn't really get in to Ultimate Spider-Man, I disliked Bendis' writing, and didn't like how they did Green Goblin or Venom. I really can't like any Daredevil besides Mark Waid's, that book has just been too damn good.

Loeb's DC is much better than his Marvel stuff.

Modifié par wsandista, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:45 .