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[LobselVith8]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: Avernus tells you plainly that they used blood magic to cause the nobles of Ferelden to rebel. And he said he could have done more - if Sophia would have let him.

They were powerless against it.

I think Xil was addressing Tevinter politics.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Xilizhra wrote...
It'd be player immunity if mage and nonmage Hawkes had the exact same reaction. They don't.

They do actually - if the player has enough points in WILL.

Most rouge and fighter builds don't.

[LobselVith8]

Vit246 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

There can be no compromise.

The mages were already under Chantry/Templar subjugation AND at war with them for 900 years. The war happened to finally be brought out into the open where nobody can ignore it anymore. And how can there be compromise when the Chantry has all the power and the Mages have none? The Chantry has no real incentive to compromise. Mages can be arbitrarily sentenced to summary execution or Tranquility based on mere accusations and suspicions. Compromise would mean decreasing Chantry power, authority and control. Hell, their core religious doctrine depends on the demonization and subjugation of mages. Afterall, the Chantry preaches how magic and mages are an evil curse and how free mages automatically equal another Tevinter Imperium. 

I can't argue with those points, Vit.

[Red Templar]

The extent to which you people militantly polarize yourselves and misappropriate actual human suffering like rape to guard your pathetic ideological stick in the ground and run a superpac-worthy propaganda machine for an RPG makes me feel legitimately ill.

[TEWR]

They were powerless against it.

Ferelden isn't Tevinter. Tevinter is built on blood magic. Ferelden isn't.

Ferelden would be more susceptible to mind control because it's not as commonplace as it is in Tevinter. Feynriel himself notes that he saw his own tutor kill a rival Magister in battle.

I think -- key word being think, as I don't know -- that the Magisters might view mind control over other Magisters as being crude and even a sign that they're not that strong to take on a rival Magister in battle themselves, so that's why they do the duels.

[Lotion Soronarr]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

They were powerless against it.

Ferelden isn't Tevinter. Tevinter is built on blood magic. Ferelden isn't.

Ferelden would be more susceptible to mind control because it's not as commonplace as it is in Tevinter. Feynriel himself notes that he saw his own tutor kill a rival Magister in battle.

I think -- key word being think, as I don't know -- that the Magisters might view mind control over other Magisters as being crude and even a sign that they're not that strong to take on a rival Magister in battle themselves, so that's why they do the duels.

OR a blood mage can counter/resist another blood mage, becauseh e knows how blood magic works.

Menaing that if you're not a blood mage.....

[TEWR]

OR a blood mage can counter/resist another blood mage, becauseh e knows how blood magic works.

Possible, though given how Tevinter went out of its way to hunt down Adralla who was researching blood magic countermeasures, would Tevinter actually know these countermeasures?

[Ausstig]

Who knows, it may just be a case of "my Blood Magic is Stronger then Yours".

[EmperorSahlertz]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

OR a blood mage can counter/resist another blood mage, becauseh e knows how blood magic works.

Possible, though given how Tevinter went out of its way to hunt down Adralla who was researching blood magic countermeasures, would Tevinter actually know these countermeasures?

It was countermeasures for a person who weren't a blood mage. Tevinter has no interest in seeing people who aren't blood amges being able to counter them.