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[Fresh Bamboo]

 Do not try too hard to appeal to new players.


that is all.

[ianvillan]

DA3 a perfect entry point for new players.

[AlexJK]

Well thanks for that well-argued point. Obviously the key to making a game successful is ensuring that new players don't buy it. Is that your argument?

So what, the difficultly level should be fixed on hard or nightmare, the combat mechanics made deeply obtuse and mathematical, what?

Crazy topics around here at the moment.

[Maclimes]

This thread is going places.

Also, nonsense. New players are important for all franchises. Inevitably, old players WILL stop playing, whether because of of life, money, death, changing tastes, or whatever. So an infusion of new players is always important, or else each successive sequel will sell worse than the previous.

[Nashimura]

I think you need to go after a certain crowd with Dragon Age - go after the action crowd or the RPG crowd. Mass Effect went after both with an edge to the action in 2-3 and it worked ok but i dont think it worked with DA2, you had a weird middle ground where it worked as neither.

I dont mind which route you go, i like nearly all genres...but trying to please everyone rarely works.

Going after new players is a must thought, some people who played Origins and DA2 might not buy 3 based on there experiences with either game. You need to bring in more fans as you lose others to keep a series viable. You can make a new game easy for new people to get into and enjoy while also providing enough for the series vets.

Edit: Last point ninja'd buy Maclimes.

Modifié par Nashimura, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:27 .

[Pedrak]

DA is a well-known series, with a numerous fanbase, by a famous developer.

So, just make it good (= no shortcuts like recycled environments, choices that don't matter, small game world) and it simply won't flop.

Modifié par Pedrak, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:27 .

[Berty213]

ianvillan wrote...

DA3 a perfect entry point for new players.

 
It's funny how game developers always say that, I think I read that AC3 is "a perfect entry point for new players".....really?

[garrusfan1]

Eh I think they should stay true to what it already is but maybe add a little stuff for new players. They have to attract new people to keep it alive

[Pedrak]

Berty213 wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

DA3 a perfect entry point for new players.

 
It's funny how game developers always say that, I think I read that AC3 is "a perfect entry point for new players".....really?

"Actually, it's too late for new players to enjoy our series. Either you dig up from the discount bin 5-years old games you weren't interested in before, or you better buy something else, guys."

Hmm... doesn't sound like good marketing.

Modifié par Pedrak, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:30 .

[garrusfan1]

Berty213 wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

DA3 a perfect entry point for new players.

 
It's funny how game developers always say that, I think I read that AC3 is "a perfect entry point for new players".....really?

Actually it might be since it is a seperate story. When they said that about ME3 I knew it was BS since it is a trilogy it would be like watching star wars episode 6 before watching 4 and 5

[AlexJK]

Berty213 wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

DA3 a perfect entry point for new players.

 
It's funny how game developers always say that, I think I read that AC3 is "a perfect entry point for new players".....really?

It's to counteract the perception that jumping into a series part-way through is in some way bad, which is often (though very definitely not always) true of direct sequels in other media.

The vast majority of games don't require foreknowledge of previous events to fully understand or enjoy the next instalment, which is all that trite-sounding statement is trying to say. (Even when it's not true, of course, the marketing dept will still use it!)

Modifié par AlexJK, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:38 .

[Berty213]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Actually it might be since it is a seperate story. When they said that about ME3 I knew it was BS since it is a trilogy it would be like watching star wars episode 6 before watching 4 and 5

I wouldn't say it was a perfect entry point because it still has Desmond and his back story, but as far as a new assassin goes then yes I agree with you there. Did they really say that ME3 was a good place to start? haha, I second your BS

[Terrorize69]

ianvillan wrote...

DA3 a perfect entry point for new players.

^ This.

[AlexJK]

Berty213 wrote...

Did they really say that ME3 was a good place to start?

In fairness, the events of ME3 weren't exactly dependent on those of ME1 or 2, so in that respect...

[Berty213]

AlexJK wrote...

Berty213 wrote...

Did they really say that ME3 was a good place to start?

In fairness, the events of ME3 weren't exactly dependent on those of ME1 or 2, so in that respect...

I guess you could look at it that way, but the default choices in ME3 are awful.

[JerHopp]

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Do not try too hard to appeal to new players.


that is all.

Care to elaborate?

[AlexJK]

Berty213 wrote...

... the default choices in ME3 are awful.

What a coincidence! So are the ones at the end

[Bad Alex. Don't go there.]

[Berty213]

AlexJK wrote...

Berty213 wrote...

... the default choices in ME3 are awful.

What a coincidence! So are the ones at the end

[Bad Alex. Don't go there.]

Hahaha agreed!

[Bad Rob don't continue this conversation]

[ianvillan]

Now having the interactive comic for the ME2 PS3 owners was good, it provided details of the game before and let you choose the world state.

Something along those line to encourage new players I would have no problem with for the next DA game.

[SeptimusMagistos]

DA2 successfully appealed to me. Afterwards I bought the Complete Origins pack and I'm going to buy DA3 too. That's all I have to say on the subject.

[ianvillan]

I also hope there is no action mode, story mode or RPG mode in DA3 because to me that was a total waste of resources.

[In Exile]

AlexJK wrote...
What a coincidence! So are the ones at the end

[Bad Alex. Don't go there.]

Wait, the end had choices!? 

[I'm done now, too.]

[fchopin]

Berty213 wrote...

AlexJK wrote...

Berty213 wrote...

Did they really say that ME3 was a good place to start?

In fairness, the events of ME3 weren't exactly dependent on those of ME1 or 2, so in that respect...

I guess you could look at it that way, but the default choices in ME3 are awful.

I agree, ME3 was a terrible game for a new player to start they still cannot get the best ending without any add-ons.

[AlanC9]

What are you talking about? A new ME3 player can still achieve Synthesis. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 22 octobre 2012 - 04:21 .