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Jacob suffered though from the boring character trait. You can have a cool character without issues that's fun to take him with you. Vega for example.

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Emzamination wrote...

... I don't know... I... I'm leaving


Holy **** you scared her alway from the thread. You have my respect sir.

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ziloe wrote...

I really, really like that idea. The fog warriors, I mean.

There's a book about mages, that was made into a short Television series. The name is lost on me, but the kid who played Iceman in the x-men movies, was the lead character. The author based the lore on african culture, every character being black. When it came to TV, the producers made everyone but the mentor, white. Frankly, that makes me quite disappointed, and I'd like to see a shift away from that mindset that everything needs to be whitewashed to appeal to an american audience.


+1. I think that is probably where they will go with it. Hopefully. Please?!

*sigh* the story of American media. Every character needs to be white, or a stereotype. One steroetype per gang of four.

If you see the "african" stuff too (Black Panther, a superhero show, comes to mind) they either go "all Africa" (Zulu warriors with spears and loinclothes, except they, like, had large settlements equal to Europe in Zimbabwe, Mali, etc...) or they do exclusively movies about genocide and horror for easy Oscars (Blood Diamond, Hotel Rwanda, Last King of Scotland)


Edit: Didn't the marketers even white-wash a confirmed "darkskinned" Isabela? I remember Bioware saying the marketing was a mistake, but still.....

Modifié par Palipride47, 22 octobre 2012 - 06:49 .


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The black skin options in DA2 looked horrendously shiny (not of the vampire-sparkle variety). I had to white-ify my most recent character because in 75% of the cutscenes the lighting made her look like her skin was made of wax.

I hope in Orlais we see more diversity in color (that as a bonus looks like actual skin). I believe Orlais is closer to Rivain & Antiva, and that's where the non-white races seem to live.

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Tootles FTW wrote...

The black skin options in DA2 looked horrendously shiny (not of the vampire-sparkle variety). I had to white-ify my most recent character because in 75% of the cutscenes the lighting made her look like her skin was made of wax.

I hope in Orlais we see more diversity in color (that as a bonus looks like actual skin). I believe Orlais is closer to Rivain & Antiva, and that's where the non-white races seem to live.


Why most of my characters in DAO are either white (to match the family) or tan (because dark = purple and mottled)
DA2 was better, a bit. Though I have mods, because I play on PC, that helped me a lot.  

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M25105 wrote...

Jacob suffered though from the boring character trait. You can have a cool character without issues that's fun to take him with you. Vega for example.


Vega was also based on a real guy, so they were already inspired. And that's one thing Bioware can be really great at, that being character development. I think if Jacob wasn't just a soldier, he could have been a lot more. They tried, and I can respect them for that, but I'd still like to see them try again.

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Chasind. I always thought they brought diversity to the skin tones.

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mllrthyme wrote...

Chasind. I always thought they brought diversity to the skin tones.


No, not really. Maybe in character creation, but that's about it.

Modifié par ziloe, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:08 .


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Hm, I think my next dwarf commoner will be black now....

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My Mage Tyrone was a brother.

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I don't care much about colors.., I never ever liked jacob, but I don't think that this is the colour problem :) or mainly colour at all .. (ok, i prefere blonde, blueyed, pale skin.. but i love kaidan - dark hair and eyes :)
characters need to be written good (they can be bad in nature ofc ) colour is not an important issue, writing is

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Perlicka wrote...

I don't care much about colors.., I never ever liked jacob, but I don't think that this is the colour problem :) or mainly colour at all .. (ok, i prefere blonde, blueyed, pale skin.. but i love kaidan - dark hair and eyes :)
characters need to be written good (they can be bad in nature ofc ) colour is not an important issue, writing is


I 100% agree. When people talk of not liking Jacob it has nothing to do with his race.

Modifié par SpEcIaLRyAn, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:30 .


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I wasn't aware this was still an issue in today's society.

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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

I wasn't aware this was still an issue in today's society.


It is. 

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That black chick who played the role of a reaver in Dragon Age: Redemption. SHE needs to be in DA3.

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simfamSP wrote...

That black chick who played the role of a reaver in Dragon Age: Redemption. SHE needs to be in DA3.

Aww hell naw! 

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simfamSP wrote...

That black chick who played the role of a reaver in Dragon Age: Redemption. SHE needs to be in DA3.


This is the first I've even heard of her.

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ziloe wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

That black chick who played the role of a reaver in Dragon Age: Redemption. SHE needs to be in DA3.


This is the first I've even heard of her.


Its a live action Dragon Age story with Felicia Day as Tallis (pre MOTA)

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Palipride47 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

That black chick who played the role of a reaver in Dragon Age: Redemption. SHE needs to be in DA3.


This is the first I've even heard of her.


Its a live action Dragon Age story with Felicia Day as Tallis (pre MOTA)


Oh, right. I remember that. I suppose I wasn't crazy about the series, so I guess I just kinda forgot about it, lol. 

Modifié par ziloe, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:56 .


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You can make yourself black, so there is one example - it would not surprise me if there is a race of mostly black people.

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Isn't Rivain where "black" people are from? So like Isabella

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OP +1

Also, "dark-skinned" does NOT equal Black.

Modifié par Leomerya12, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:58 .


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ReconTeam wrote...

So in conclusion we need a black dwarf voiced by Samuel L. Jackson? Sounds good.


Morgan Freeman all the way

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Leomerya12 wrote...

OP +1

White people hate talking about race. They really do.


A. Not all of "them" do. You don't know anyone's ethnicity on here (as far as I know)
B. Don't turn this into a flame thread. 

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I never liked Jacob, but that was solely due to "boring Bioware male lead syndrome" (Which strangely enough doesn't seem to apply to Dragon Age, as Alistair had great personality and Anders was like video game character marmite). Kasumi and Anderson were such strong characters in their own right I never really noticed their ethnicity at all unless it was brought up, and that's the way it should be.

As for Dragon Age 3, I don't want to see any "African" (Or whatever the Thedas equivalent would be) characters who are only there for the sake of it. I'm fine with dark skinned Rivaini companions like Isabela, and maybe if we meet some characters from countries further north then that would make sense, but it's not something that should just be done for the sake of it.

Modifié par EJ107, 22 octobre 2012 - 08:01 .