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[Xandurpein]

It does give future Grey Wardens some totally awesome pick-up lines, doesn't it.



PC: But you have to, we need to save the world baby...

[Zafireria]

Rhinna wrote...

I just found out last night, that it was Flemeth's idea for the ritual - SHE gave Morrigan the information she needs to perform it - when my female elf mage PC had the conversation with her in Redcliff, I somehow wormed that out of her "But this was Flemeth's idea all along you know...that is why she sent me" or something to that effect. And here all along I thought Morrigan had her own agenda! I'll have to see if I can find the conversation in the logs.

Perhaps the god baby is suppose to substitute for Morrigan, aka meaning that her body will not be taken has host, but the baby's. Now I wonder if Morrigan even offer the ritual at the landsmeet since I have killed her mother on her request.
Would such bad if not, because I was planning on getting my human noble to marry Alistair, kind of requires that we are both alive.... o.o 

[Maria Caliban]

Taleroth wrote...

Am I the only one who saw the thread title and thought "Let's do the Time Warp again?"

Thread: "Let's do the Dark Ritual again, but this time..."

Maria: "In the butt!"
*about a minute later*
Maria: "Oh, wait. That wouldn't work so good."

[SusanStoHelit]

Zafireria wrote...

Now I wonder if Morrigan even offer the ritual at the landsmeet since I have killed her mother on her request.
Would such bad if not, because I was planning on getting my human noble to marry Alistair, kind of requires that we are both alive.... o.o 

It makes no difference whether you kill Flemeth or not - or if your character is male or female - you will always get the offer.

Flemeth was alive back at her hut, right after Ostagar. And that's why Flemeth sent Morrigan along - and Morrigan knew it all along (she reveals that).

Edit: If your character is female, then Alistair gets to make the god baby.

Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 11 janvier 2010 - 10:47 .

[ejoslin]

SusanStoHelit wrote...

Zafireria wrote...

Now I wonder if Morrigan even offer the ritual at the landsmeet since I have killed her mother on her request.
Would such bad if not, because I was planning on getting my human noble to marry Alistair, kind of requires that we are both alive.... o.o 

It makes no difference whether you kill Flemeth or not - or if your character is male or female - you will always get the offer.

Flemeth was alive back at her hut, right after Ostagar. And that's why Flemeth sent Morrigan along - and Morrigan knew it all along (she reveals that).

Edit: If your character is female, then Alistair gets to make the god baby.

Or Loghain . . .though he's thinking of his dead wife during the deed.

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 janvier 2010 - 10:58 .

[TripleOwned]

Hang were talking abot more Old Gods, but aren't they the onew who started all this. They convinced the Tevinter mages to go into the golden city and they corrupted it with their sin and thus themselves; becoming the ifrst of the darkspawn. What if the darkspawn got their hands on these god childs, would that mean loads of Archdemons rising at one time?

[Little Mama]

Rhinna wrote...

I just found out last night, that it was Flemeth's idea for the ritual - SHE gave Morrigan the information she needs to perform it - when my female elf mage PC had the conversation with her in Redcliff, I somehow wormed that out of her "But this was Flemeth's idea all along you know...that is why she sent me" or something to that effect. And here all along I thought Morrigan had her own agenda! I'll have to see if I can find the conversation in the logs.

I belive that Flemeth and Morrigan har in cahoots the hole time...
As a male when you ask her "Is this why you have bean so friendly to me"  Morrigan anwer "Its ...why I was send with you by my mother. Its why she saved your life to begin with. Caring for you... was not part of the plan."

The plan! Can it be more crystal clear?

[Baalzie]

Auldrek wrote...

I'm wondering if you can get Alistair to sleep with Morrigan and then kill the Archdemon yourself thus sacrificing yourself and leaving a bastard heir to the throne. It is a totally insane thing to do!! Anyone do it?

Nope, undoable, since the ritual makes sure that WHOEVER kills the Archdemonthe soul seeks the baby out like a beacon... So  no, no matter who do tha killing blow the soul goes to Godbaby...
And even if  it wouldn't, You think Morrie would let Ali have the babe?
If Alistair takes the throne, and You do the ritual there IS a legitimite heir to the throne out running with Morrie, Ali's bastard son/daughter... ^^ *most likely a daughter but who knows? I dare think not even Gaider knows yet, he hasn't gotten that far =p*

[wwwwowwww]

where does it say as a grey warden you can't make babies? before the joining ritual I don't remember Duncan telling me "drink this and your boys won't swim no more"

[Arinosmirc]

wwwwowwww wrote...

where does it say as a grey warden you can't make babies? before the joining ritual I don't remember Duncan telling me "drink this and your boys won't swim no more"

It isn't that GW's can't have babies, but rather, a babe born from grey wardens could potentially recieve the taint from the GW parent.

And if BOTH parents are GW's, that chance is exceptionally high, or so says Alistair when he breaks it off with the female hero. Well, something like that.

[wwwwowwww]

Arinosmirc wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

where does it say as a grey warden you can't make babies? before the joining ritual I don't remember Duncan telling me "drink this and your boys won't swim no more"

It isn't that GW's can't have babies, but rather, a babe born from grey wardens could potentially recieve the taint from the GW parent.

And if BOTH parents are GW's, that chance is exceptionally high, or so says Alistair when he breaks it off with the female hero. Well, something like that.

Yeah but that doesn't explain all the "Fertility" issues everyone keeps talking about

[Arinosmirc]

I just kinda assumed people were reading too far into Alistairs words lol. Pretty sure the only real issue with Grey Wardens and having babies is transferring the taint to the child, something the Dark Ritual forces.

[Elessara]

Actually they say that because of the taint that the Grey Wardens have difficulty conceiving children. And that it would be almost impossible for two Grey Wardens to have a baby together.



Oh and Morrigan mentions that some people would consider the dark ritual to be blood magic but then she says that's only a name right?

[legendinthemaking]

I read this on another forum and it sounded awesome. Someone had this idea that if DA has a sequel, an integral part of the story will be finding Morrigan and swaying the direction of power that comes with the god child. THIS would be the most enticing reason for me to return to the Dragon Age universe... Morrigan's offer was THE most emotional part of the game, especially since I romanced her. I kept looking for a loophole in the conversation, some way I'd be able to pursue her... I told Anora in the end that that was my only goal. Seriously, once the Darkspawn have been taken care of, I think love takes precedence in your actions.





Anyone else notice that the protagonist (if you chose to accept Morrigan's offer) becomes the archetypal "legend with the world on his shoulders"? Killing the Archdemon propelled him to legend status, and for the rest of his life he knew that the woman he had romanced, a witch of the wilds, was somewhere in the world with their child, an Old God. Damn, that is epic.

[legendinthemaking]

Elessara wrote...
Oh and Morrigan mentions that some people would consider the dark ritual to be blood magic but then she says that's only a name right?

I'm pretty sure this is right. My mage had the Blood Mage specialization and she said something like "but this shouldn't be too strange to you" or something like that...

[wwwwowwww]

Elessara wrote...

Actually they say that because of the taint that the Grey Wardens have difficulty conceiving children. And that it would be almost impossible for two Grey Wardens to have a baby together.

Oh and Morrigan mentions that some people would consider the dark ritual to be blood magic but then she says that's only a name right?

Dont' quote me, but I'm pretty sure they referred to the baby surviving because of the taint, not actually getting pregnant.

[Whisa]

wwwwowwww wrote...

Dont' quote me, but I'm pretty sure they referred to the baby surviving because of the taint, not actually getting pregnant.

No, it's conception.

A baby born of grey wardens isn't tained, or hasn't been in the evidence that we've been shown.  But the real problem is getting the two to conceive - unless someone wanted to try the broodmother way