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Buff the Disciple

Débuté par Jackums , oct. 23 2012 09:39

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:39

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Reason(s):
http://social.biowar...ndex/14624421/1
http://social.biowar.../index/14629206


Air Quotes wrote...

Reasons:

1. It's a Gold (Rare) weapon
2. It's a Justicar weapon with a secret technology that was guarded for CENTURIES and only given away because of the Reaper threat
3. THE ONLY non-promotional weapon that hasn't been touched since LAUNCH, while enemies received multiple buffs to shields, health and armor.
4. The only real advantage was it's weight, but now with ULM for pistols and SMG's working it's no longer a advantage.
5. The damage sucks, the stagger is unreliable.


+1?

Modifié par JackumsD, 23 octobre 2012 - 12:34 .

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:47

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Reasons:

1. It's a Gold (Rare) weapon
2. It's a Justicar weapon with a secret technology that was guarded for CENTURIES and only given away because of the Reaper threat
3. THE ONLY non-promotional weapon that hasn't been touched since LAUNCH, while enemies received multiple buffs to shields, health and armor.
4. The only real advantage was it's weight, but now with ULM for pistols and SMG's working it's no longer a advantage.
5. The damage sucks, the stagger is unreliable.

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:49

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i seriously had to two shot a husk on silver with it. WITH SHOTGUN GEAR BONUS 5

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:50

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Air Quotes wrote...

Reasons:

1. It's a Gold (Rare) weapon
2. It's a Justicar weapon with a secret technology that was guarded for CENTURIES and only given away because of the Reaper threat
3. THE ONLY non-promotional weapon that hasn't been touched since LAUNCH, while enemies received multiple buffs to shields, health and armor.
4. The only real advantage was it's weight, but now with ULM for pistols and SMG's working it's no longer a advantage.
5. The damage sucks, the stagger is unreliable.

Thanks for this! Will edit into OP.

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Tal_Elmar
Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:50

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agreed.

As much as it's beautiful, the weapon is sadly useless

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:51

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Air Quotes wrote...
5. The damage sucks, the stagger is unreliable. 

I don't think i ever saw this happen (staggering by Disciple i mean) 

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:52

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BUMPITY BUMP

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:56

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At least it tickles the enemy. Gives them a false sense of security before I pull out a real gun.

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:56

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Stahlhammer wrote...

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5. The damage sucks, the stagger is unreliable. 

I don't think i ever saw this happen (staggering by Disciple i mean) 


It's not a stagger. It's more like a stun. But many other weapons can do that. And the Disciple does nothing to a Phantom. 

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:58

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the perfect way to balance it is to let it stagger protected enemies, it doesn't need damage or anything, just give it that

also with the new omni blade it theoretically benefits the sword users and paladin and other power/melee classes I'd say

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 09:59

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Agreed. It can only kill mooks on silver and that's all.

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:01

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As of now, which class can use the Disciple and have it be the most damaging and powerful? A Krogan?

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:02

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I brought it to Platinum to get my shotgun mastery done faster. Oh god, never again. Emptying clips after clips on a Phantom, barely scratching its health, gets tiring quickly. And that was with aiming for the head.

Buff it BioWare.

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:03

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Stahlhammer wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
5. The damage sucks, the stagger is unreliable. 

I don't think i ever saw this happen (staggering by Disciple i mean) 


Really? I see enemies stagger all the time, usually just the first hit they're struck by though, which is kind of odd.

That said, I still like that shotgun, but it could well do with a buff, making that stagger reliable, say a full hit always staggers, and give it more force so that unshielded enemies cryo'd, stasi'ed or pulled and in a singularity (and so on) is a sure kill...it would be a nice mook killer that could keep enemy crowds back...a riot gun. :)

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As of now, which class can use the Disciple and have it be the most damaging and powerful? A Krogan?


If he straps an omni-bayonet to it, yes. :P Shadow does well with it too, due to it being light and that bayonet giving such a boost to melee damage. Still, shooting with it should be more effective.

Modifié par setrus86, 23 octobre 2012 - 10:05 .

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MattH
Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:06

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Agreed, it's pretty pathetic.

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:06

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i want to like the gun but i can't, it is just so weak and doesn't do anything another shotgun can do :(

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:07

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You're using it wrong. Porper way of using Disciple is placing it where you want your enemies, and when they run to it yelling "WOW LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL GUN", you shoot them in the face with a Talon.

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:10

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setrus86 wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
5. The damage sucks, the stagger is unreliable. 

I don't think i ever saw this happen (staggering by Disciple i mean) 


Really? I see enemies stagger all the time, usually just the first hit they're struck by though, which is kind of odd.

That said, I still like that shotgun, but it could well do with a buff, making that stagger reliable, say a full hit always staggers, and give it more force so that unshielded enemies cryo'd, stasi'ed or pulled and in a singularity (and so on) is a sure kill...it would be a nice mook killer that could keep enemy crowds back...a riot gun. :)

X-Frame wrote...

As of now, which class can use the Disciple and have it be the most damaging and powerful? A Krogan?


If he straps an omni-bayonet to it, yes. :P Shadow does well with it too, due to it being light and that bayonet giving such a boost to melee damage. Still, shooting with it should be more effective.


It's not really a stagger. A real stagger is what GPS does. Disciple just stuns, but many weapons can stun, and many weapons can kill better. 

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:12

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Stahlhammer wrote...

You're using it wrong. Porper way of using Disciple is placing it where you want your enemies, and when they run to it yelling "WOW LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL GUN", you shoot them in the face with a Talon.


A proper way is to attach the Disciple to a rope, then drag it across the floor while all the enemies are chasing it, to  lure them into a recon mine trap set by Volus. :lol:

Modifié par Air Quotes, 23 octobre 2012 - 10:13 .

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:22

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Air Quotes wrote...
4. The only real advantage was it's weight, but now with ULM for pistols and SMG's working it's no longer a advantage.

Well, ULM for pistols and SMGs don't really have an impact on the use of a shotgun. Apart from that: +1

Also (slightly OT), love your new avatar. Her expression - plain awesome. :wub:

Modifié par count_4, 23 octobre 2012 - 10:23 .

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:30

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count_4 wrote...

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4. The only real advantage was it's weight, but now with ULM for pistols and SMG's working it's no longer a advantage.

Well, ULM for pistols and SMGs don't really have an impact on the use of a shotgun. Apart from that: +1

Also (slightly OT), love your new avatar. Her expression - plain awesome. :wub:


What do you mean ULM has no impact? :unsure: Even Talon 1 with ULM will give you 200% CD. 

P.S. What Liara does in that scene is also plain awesome. :P

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:44

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Air Quotes wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
4. The only real advantage was it's weight, but now with ULM for pistols and SMG's working it's no longer a advantage.

Well, ULM for pistols and SMGs don't really have an impact on the use of a shotgun. Apart from that: +1

Also (slightly OT), love your new avatar. Her expression - plain awesome. :wub:


What do you mean ULM has no impact? :unsure: Even Talon 1 with ULM will give you 200% CD. 

P.S. What Liara does in that scene is also plain awesome. :P

I meant that, apart from the Talon of course, a Pistol or SMG becoming lighter because of the now working ULMs shouldn't be a reason to not use a shotgun. 

P.S.: Just had a look...I'll be in my bunk. :whistle:

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 10:48

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count_4 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
4. The only real advantage was it's weight, but now with ULM for pistols and SMG's working it's no longer a advantage.

Well, ULM for pistols and SMGs don't really have an impact on the use of a shotgun. Apart from that: +1

Also (slightly OT), love your new avatar. Her expression - plain awesome. :wub:


What do you mean ULM has no impact? :unsure: Even Talon 1 with ULM will give you 200% CD. 

P.S. What Liara does in that scene is also plain awesome. :P

I meant that, apart from the Talon of course, a Pistol or SMG becoming lighter because of the now working ULMs shouldn't be a reason to not use a shotgun. 

P.S.: Just had a look...I'll be in my bunk. :whistle:


Well yes, working ULM's do not invalide Claymore, Piranha, Wraith and so on. But they do invalidate the Disciple since all it has going it for it's light weight. And most of the pistols will do a better job even up close than the Disciple. 

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 11:14

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If it guaranteed stagger like the falcon, I'd take it anyday. Right now the Piranha outclasses it in every way imaginable.

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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 11:22

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I think the last time I used it was in April...
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