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#51
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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

So far we've got the majority of voters saying they are disappointed. (54%)

I'm a voter who voted "no" because I'm not disappointed. I'm indifferent. But, in a way, I'm rooting a bit for all you "yes" voters, because it affects you more than the indifferent crowd.


This poll doesn't really measure disappointment well though. 

There's "oh well" disappointment, and "I am not going to buy this game" disappointment, and some inbetween.

As such, if you lean more towards "I am not going to buy this game" disappointment, you might look at all the other votes for "Yes" and think "Look at all the people who aren't going to buy this game!"

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 23 octobre 2012 - 07:16 .


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This was a bit difficult for me. I'm not personally disappointed, but I am disappointed for others that were really hoping for that option.

I ended up voting "no", tho....

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I'm all good with it at least we get to choose our back story with is a step in the right direction it shows that even though we can't have races they're still trying to give us something of what we asked for.
So go Bioware you guys rock!


Yeah but your backstory will not be playable like it was in DAO. It's just going to be a text-list of origin summaries like in ME1. If you're cool with that, however, then there you go. 

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This poll is horribly flawed.

I'm dissapointed that I won't be able to play a dwarf.
But I'm okay with it, because it means they can focus more tightly on character development.


Flawed in a sense that they don't coincide with the consensus you assumed was true?
It's a rather neutral question.


Flawed in the sense that the poll provides meaningless data. With a simple "Are you dissapointed? Yes/No", you have learned nothing. Perhaps a better question would have been "Rate your dissapointment on a scale of 1 to 10 (with 10 being very dissapointed, 1 being happy with decision)". The binary yes/no doesn't tell the whole story. Hell, it barely tells even part of it.


Maybe you could "mod" my poll since it wasn't good enough the first time around. lol. 

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Maclimes wrote...

Unknown_Warrior wrote...

Maclimes wrote...

This poll is horribly flawed.

I'm dissapointed that I won't be able to play a dwarf.
But I'm okay with it, because it means they can focus more tightly on character development.


Flawed in a sense that they don't coincide with the consensus you assumed was true?
It's a rather neutral question.


Flawed in the sense that the poll provides meaningless data. With a simple "Are you dissapointed? Yes/No", you have learned nothing. Perhaps a better question would have been "Rate your dissapointment on a scale of 1 to 10 (with 10 being very dissapointed, 1 being happy with decision)". The binary yes/no doesn't tell the whole story. Hell, it barely tells even part of it.


I don't agree. Polls are fundamentally flawed, and serve more to highlight a general feeling rather than an intricate breakdown of personal investment. It's actually more accurate than 1/10-scale. When you heard DA3 won't have other race options, did you get slightly/greatly angry/depressed or did you just shrug? Everyone can answer that accurately based on their gut feeling when they heard that statement. It's not until you ask people to give a numerical score to that ire that you begin to make mistakes.
What is very disappointed (10/10, as per your example?). What IS very disappointed? Walking to the fridge to see you're out of your favourite snack? Getting fired from work and later getting a text from your girlfriend that she has secretly been seeing another guy for a month and is gonna dump you?

Sorry, but I rather trust a gut "Oh, damnit"/"Oh well" Yes/No poll than a subjective scale poll where you must weigh levels of emotion to a number without any indication was the two extremes correlate with. Furthermore, what is the difference between, say, a 2 and a 3 out of 10? This is also why, on say metacritic, user reviews are mostly 0-1/10s and 9-10/10s without any middleground, because people can't properly assign their state of mind to a numerical score and just score out of gut feeling.

But that's just me. I always hate numerical scoring on anything subjective.

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Where is the "disappointed, but I'll wait and see if the story makes sense with a human protagonist, and replayability is not affected" option?

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@Maclimes 

I'm not a professional poll-taker. I put it up for fun. I don't see the point in being a fascist about burying whatever numbers/information this tiny little forum poll yields. It's not like I'm publishing it as credible data. I made it out of curiousity. I wanted a yes/no answer, because I was tired of scanning through pages and pages of long-winded "boo hoo I am disappointed" and "yawn i don't care" answers. They become blinding after awhile. If you don't like how completely unprofessional my poll is - who cares? Don't answer it. It's for entertainment. 

Modifié par Trista Faux Hawke, 23 octobre 2012 - 07:48 .


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Well, i'm indifferent on this matter, so not dissapointed.

Still, I can understand why people are dissapointed about not having multiple races to choose from. We'll see how DA3 turns out. Heck, perhaps there will be new features, that makes you forget (or forgive Bioware;)) about not having race choice.

I only play as a mage, which means elves and humans only and i will never play as a dwarf anyway. (i'm sorry dwarf lovers).

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I only play as human/elf too. But I can see why others would be upset by the human being the only option. It doesn't upset me, but still.

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

@unknown

I'm not a professional poll-taker. I put it up for fun. I don't see the point in being a fascist about burying whatever numbers/information this tiny little forum poll yields. It's not like I'm publishing it as credible data. I made it out of curiousity. I wanted a yes/no answer, because I was tired of scanning through pages and pages of long-winded "boo hoo I am disappointed" and "yawn i don't care" answers. They become blinding after awhile. If you don't like how completely unprofessional my poll is - who cares? Don't answer it. It's for entertainment. 


um..I think Unknown was agreeing w/you? Defending the merits of a yes/no poll?

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rapscallioness wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

@unknown

I'm not a professional poll-taker. I put it up for fun. I don't see the point in being a fascist about burying whatever numbers/information this tiny little forum poll yields. It's not like I'm publishing it as credible data. I made it out of curiousity. I wanted a yes/no answer, because I was tired of scanning through pages and pages of long-winded "boo hoo I am disappointed" and "yawn i don't care" answers. They become blinding after awhile. If you don't like how completely unprofessional my poll is - who cares? Don't answer it. It's for entertainment. 


um..I think Unknown was agreeing w/you? Defending the merits of a yes/no poll?


Typo. woops. I meant Maclimes. I was looking at Unknown's user name and typed it out.. :pinched:  

p.s. Sorry Unknown, I haven't had my coffee today. 

Modifié par Trista Faux Hawke, 23 octobre 2012 - 07:49 .


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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

p.s. Sorry Unknown, I haven't had my coffee today. 


Sorry, me too. :pinched:

Didn't mean to come off as so aggressive. BSN does that to you, sometimes. My apologies.

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Ah it's cool. lol

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People apologizing on the BSN. I think I just died lol awesome xD

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I have no problem playing as a human or any other race. If the game is interesting and fun. It does not matter to me.

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It wouldn`t matter THAT much to me either, if i didn`t realize it would lessen the replayability value of the game.

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I am disappointed but ill get over it....

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Nashimura wrote...

I am disappointed but ill get over it....


Pretty much how I feel.

I like to argue many times just for argument's sake, but I'm not surprised or even unhappy that we won't get to play non-humans. Just slightly disappointed, knowing that Bioware won't be parting the Red Sea to make the game bend over backwards to pull this off. It would probably be to the detriment of the game/plot if there were non-humans running the Inquisition (talk about lore-breaking), but... still.

I hope the backgrounds will make up for it. Or, at least, the giant scorpion mounts.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 24 octobre 2012 - 03:50 .


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Being stuck with a human-only character won't keep me from buying DA3, but I am disappointed.  While I saw this coming, I would prefer that the writers try to come up with a plot that includes the other races as well.  If humans are going to be such a dominant race in Theadas, then why bother having these other races at all?  Being able to play as a dwarf was a big selling point for me with Origins, as they're my favorite fantasy race, and few games let the player play as a non-human apart from the Elder Scrolls games and mmorpgs.

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the bioware boards represents a small minority. Probably only 10% who play these games go on the boards so it does not represent everybody

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Quicksilver26 wrote...

I'm all good with it at least we get to choose our back story with is a step in the right direction it shows that even though we can't have races they're still trying to give us something of what we asked for.
So go Bioware you guys rock!


Yeah but your backstory will not be playable like it was in DAO. It's just going to be a text-list of origin summaries like in ME1. If you're cool with that, however, then there you go. 


they said the back story will play a part in the game in may not be orign or be at the start of the game but it will be in there they never said it would be like mass effects that was just the conclusion drawn by the fans it will play an import role  in the game

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Quicksilver26 wrote...

I'm all good with it at least we get to choose our back story with is a step in the right direction it shows that even though we can't have races they're still trying to give us something of what we asked for.
So go Bioware you guys rock!


Yeah but your backstory will not be playable like it was in DAO. It's just going to be a text-list of origin summaries like in ME1. If you're cool with that, however, then there you go. 


they said the back story will play a part in the game in may not be orign or be at the start of the game but it will be in there they never said it would be like mass effects that was just the conclusion drawn by the fans it will play an import role  in the game


No they told us, specifically, that the origin will not be playable. 

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People apologizing on the BSN. I think I just died lol awesome xD


Actually, when I saw that, I thought, "huh yeah I should do that more often..." It's hard to on BSN because everyone is so isolated from one another behind computer screens. :/

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motomotogirl wrote...

People apologizing on the BSN. I think I just died lol awesome xD


Yeah... it's not the first apology I've issued on BSN, and probably won't be the last. I can get swept up in heated debate pretty easily, but I'm self-aware enough to realize when I'm being a jerk, and I try to make amends when I do.

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Maclimes wrote...

This poll is horribly flawed.

I'm dissapointed that I won't be able to play a dwarf.
But I'm okay with it, because it means they can focus more tightly on character development.


If they have enough resources you mean.. some how i don't think the characters are going to be as flesh out as so many thinks, I don't expect DA3 to have an end and certainly i don't expect DA3 been true to the lore.

Lets see who is right!