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[CitizenThom]

There's something different with Silver. After playing some Gold matches for the first time since the patch and DLC last night, I know why most people don't get the sense of a difficulty spike. There isn't one on Gold. Silver now burns through a lot more consumables than it used to though. I imagine the OP plays more Silver than Gold.

[Alijah Green]

Yate wrote...

If you increase difficulty, YOU HAVE TO INCREASE CREDITS

they did, you just have to be good enough to make it to extraction:blush:

[S.Carnage]

Umm get better?

[Yagusin]

suprhomre wrote...

Had one platinum today and a dozen on gold had one on silver solo. You sure it's harder?

The same here.

[OuterRim]

You gotta love the attitude here on the forums. OP has a point. the game is harder and everyone knows it, even if it isn't for you personally. Stick the Elitist attitudes and help the man out with some decent advice.

One thing OP, watch for the balance changes today - hopefully there will be some good news there for silver.

[Genesis Knight]

Everytime I see a thread like this .....

Modifié par Genesis Knight, 23 octobre 2012 - 06:13 .

[Necrotron]

It is harder. Some people love that. Others hate it.

I miss the old Cerberus. They were my favorite faction to play for a casual game.

Modifié par Bathaius, 23 octobre 2012 - 06:15 .

[upinya slayin]

Beerfish wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

NorthsidePK wrote...

 Seriously I have to use consumables on silver now?

I havent had an extraction on gold in a week!!???!?!

WTF happened???

I'm still playing the same....but all of a suddon everything is rediculously difficult!!

What is the deal with the dragoons???

On gold they give ya a bakers dozen at a time and you cannot outrun them even with a adrenaline amp

^(lil exaggeration there but they are very plentiful and very fast with no regard for themselves or cover)

A couple weeks ago I was having fun on gold, it was plenty difficult, but still fun.

Now silver is a chore....

Why was the game changed???

why do people complain about game difficulty???

that is why there are 4 levels of difficulty. play the one that is fun for you. some people will find platinum easy and some will find bronze hard. everyone is a diferent skill level. thats just the way it is and that won't change ever. IF silver is hard play bronze instead. whats the big deal?

The big deal?  Collectors on bronze at least = if not surpass cerberus on silver for difficulty.  some of you people (And I mean the very best players) have just totally lost sight of any levels below where they normally play.  The old adage of 'just play a level lower' is tough to swallow when that means 1/2 the credits, more use of consummables and thus the gap between good and medium players ever widening.

Previously a medium player could go to bronze, play games, get their 16,000 credits and use zero or one consummable in a match.  Now in some cases you need to use some consummables depending on the opponent and in a bad game use a lot of them.

There is no problem for really good players.  The problems are for really new players and 'on the dividing line' players.  Those that were bronze and some silver or silver and some gold.

Now they have been chucked down to bronze....and silver.

If the reward isn't as good as what you are used to and that is your only reason then you are playing for the grind not for fun. If it isn't fun why play? if you are having fun why does the reward matter? isn't the fun itself a reward? So what if you have to use a gel or something, so what if you have to step down a level. If they made a new diamond difficulty for 250k credits and i felt i wasn't good enough to play it i would just not play it. I wouldn't complain that some people are making more then me by playing diamond and i'm stuck on platinum. etc etc. I don't even play platinum too often. PUGs are horrible and i won't play a platinum that i have to solo every wave. I'll do it on gold but i have friends who are better and or equal players i am that won't even do a PUG gold , they'll only do silver cuase they don't liek having to solo half the waves in a gold match. So its only worth playing high difficulties with friends.

The point is the system isn't broken. rarely do i ever find a broken sysem, the broken part is always the people using the system. people feel they are entitiled to eveyrthing for free, have no patience, and don't want to work for anything. they always take the path thats the easiest. I understand everyone is limited to a point. I know there are players out there that i'll never be as good as, as well as players out there taht will never be as good as me. Thats part of eveyrhting. It would be like (sports reference coming through) mark sanchez complaining the NFL is too hard and brady is complaining its too easy so sanchez wants the rules changed to make the game eaiser for him but if they did that it might be soo easy for brady that he gets bored and quits lol

The point is they cna't taylor it for eveyrone. that is why there is different difficulties. pick the one that is teh most fun and forget about credits and unlocks

[Mr Goodcat]

OuterRim wrote...

You gotta love the attitude here on the forums. OP has a point. the game is harder and everyone knows it, even if it isn't for you personally. Stick the Elitist attitudes and help the man out with some decent advice.

One thing OP, watch for the balance changes today - hopefully there will be some good news there for silver.

advice hmmmm let me think oh yeh drop down a level, get used the new enemies, use consumables if you have to and PRACTICE. simple isnt it. BUT WAIT why do i need to even bother when i can come on here and just moan about it being too hard and get bioware to make it easier for little old me to earn my credits.

there was a thread where people who needed help could go and find someone on there platform who was more experienced to help them i know its still on here as i am on it and i am more than willing to help people but not if you whinge because your not good enough so it must be the games unplayable or broken

[Rafficus III]

Just because the difficulty has gone up doesn't translate to unplayable. If anything, learn to get better (not an insult, mind you). Platinum is difficult for me, yet I don't carry on about it being unplayable; I suck it up, I learn, and I get better. Keep calm and know Bioware is doing what they can to provide the best experience they can, or else they wouldn't have provided the amount of content they have.

[Blitzkrieg_33]

OuterRim wrote...

You gotta love the attitude here on the forums. OP has a point. the game is harder and everyone knows it, even if it isn't for you personally. Stick the Elitist attitudes and help the man out with some decent advice.

One thing OP, watch for the balance changes today - hopefully there will be some good news there for silver.

It has nothing to do with being an elitist. It has to do with whining. It would be one thing if OP asked for some advice, but he'd rather make a post title IN ALL CAPS complaining about how hard the game is for him now. Well guess what? It's harder for everyone. People are happy to give advice, but nobody cares if you can't compensate with the changes and are butthurt about it. 

[upinya slayin]

OuterRim wrote...

You gotta love the attitude here on the forums. OP has a point. the game is harder and everyone knows it, even if it isn't for you personally. Stick the Elitist attitudes and help the man out with some decent advice.

One thing OP, watch for the balance changes today - hopefully there will be some good news there for silver.

Its not an eiltesit attitude. Its a response to a post.

1st off BW stated they are looking into making silver and bronze eaiser and nobody has an issue with that.
secondly there is a difference between a post saying "hey i'm having toruble with silver lately, here i my manifest, can i get some help and suggestions" compared to one sayong "This game is too hard and its pissing me off" which one do you think will get more helpfull responses?

[wklogan]

OuterRim wrote...

You gotta love the attitude here on the forums. OP has a point. the game is harder and everyone knows it, even if it isn't for you personally. Stick the Elitist attitudes and help the man out with some decent advice.

One thing OP, watch for the balance changes today - hopefully there will be some good news there for silver.

People here on the forum does have an attitude and some even have an attitude problem. But I think it's the all caps title that makes people act like this. 

[OuterRim]

OP is frustrated at increased difficulty. Is that hard to understand, or is just easier to attack him? Think about it.

[Mr Goodcat]

OuterRim wrote...

OP is frustrated at increased difficulty. Is that hard to understand, or is just easier to attack him? Think about it.

not sure hes being attacked. but clearly he has gone about this the wrong way. he should of just asked for help.

[OuterRim]

Mr Goodcat wrote...

OuterRim wrote...

OP is frustrated at increased difficulty. Is that hard to understand, or is just easier to attack him? Think about it.

not sure hes being attacked. but clearly he has gone about this the wrong way. he should of just asked for help.

I agree, but it doesn't mean repliers need to go that same way. No need for it IMO.

[THE MAD BLASTER]

Alijah Green wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

Hardly unplayable. The difficulties for silver and bronze were not intended to spike after the recent dlc. Bioware is looking into it but if you're having very serious trouble adjusting to this, practice more in bronze.
A more contributing factor for making this game unplayable is the myriad of bugs and glitches and lags the game still has had since launch.

ahha you suck too

obvious troll <_<

[stayposi1990]

Keep playing and keep getting better. It can be frustrating but improvement comes eventually.

Edit: Also I'm pretty sure bronze and silver will be back to normal soon. No worries.

Modifié par stayposi1990, 23 octobre 2012 - 06:35 .

[tatski]

Lol. Are you serious dude? I think the changes are all good... I stopped playing for a while after a few games of after Earth dlc... Aside from the new character kits maps the dlc didn't bring something new.. MP became stale and boring... But now I'm back.. The DLC probably made multiplayer a bit more difficult but it sure made it more interesting. Most pug games prior to the dlc was super boring anyway.. All you get is FBWGG farming games that killed multiplayer experience for me... I think the OP is overreacting since the difficulty didn't change by much it just change the metagame of geth and cerberus...

[Lady Galaga]

NorthsidePK wrote...

 Seriously I have to use consumables on silver now?

I havent had an extraction on gold in a week!!???!?!

WTF happened???

I'm still playing the same....but all of a suddon everything is rediculously difficult!!

What is the deal with the dragoons???

On gold they give ya a bakers dozen at a time and you cannot outrun them even with a adrenaline amp

^(lil exaggeration there but they are very plentiful and very fast with no regard for themselves or cover)

A couple weeks ago I was having fun on gold, it was plenty difficult, but still fun.

Now silver is a chore....

Why was the game changed???

This is when you look at your manifest and characters and say, "Hmm, I should work on a strategy to deal with these guys." Even before Dragoons were added, most players encountering Phantoms above bronze reacted like, "What's THAT" before taking a blade in the stomach.

[Volkai7]

Derek Hollan on the intended challenge of each difficulty:

Here's what our thoughts were on difficulty:

Bronze: An introduction to MP. A brand new starting team with new accounts should be lucky to make it to wave 3. That was how it was at launch and that is still how we view it.

Silver: For veteran players with haf-decent gear and some levels under their belts.

Gold: For the absolute best with maxxed equipment. This is NOT meant to be easy at all for even the best players.

Platinum: Is simply added for people who want to show off and need a challenge well beyond Gold. This is NOT meant to be easy by any stretch and many deaths SHOULD be expected and extraction? Well, GOOD LUCK!

Modifié par Volkai7, 23 octobre 2012 - 06:43 .

[Crossback]

I think most people have covered it already, but yeah, I think the added units increased the difficulty. A bit. Not enough that you shouldn't be able to adapt and overcome by thinking, planning, and coordinating with your team mates. That's what we've done. If you can't do that, I don't know what else to tell you, honestly.

[Mendelevosa]

NorthsidePK wrote...

Clearly Balkan wrote...

Maybe you're just bad. That's the issue you need to pay attention.

#LOL Consumables on silver !

Maybe im bad?? at what?? entertaining myself with a videogame??

How can anyone be bad at that???

How about this, next time you buy something, anything, ask yourself how happy you would be if it was chaged without your consent after you bought it.

If your new car all of a suddon started burning oil....but the manufacterer did it intentionally....after you bought it...

LOL! Why would Bioware need your permission to make changes? It's their game and they can do whatever they want with it. If you read the terms of use, you can clearly see they have the right to alter the game anyway they please. And in case you havent noticed, almost every multiplayer game out there these days gets balance changes.

Sounds like to me you are a neophobe who craps your pants everytime something about the game changes. This game will always get balance modifications whether you like it or not. The game has gotten harder, but it is certainly not "unplayable." So I'd suggest you learn to adapt to these changes or find entertainment elsewhere because your constant whining isn't going to solve anything.

[parico]

upinya slayin wrote...

OuterRim wrote...

You gotta love the attitude here on the forums. OP has a point. the game is harder and everyone knows it, even if it isn't for you personally. Stick the Elitist attitudes and help the man out with some decent advice.

One thing OP, watch for the balance changes today - hopefully there will be some good news there for silver.

Its not an eiltesit attitude. Its a response to a post.

1st off BW stated they are looking into making silver and bronze eaiser and nobody has an issue with that.
secondly there is a difference between a post saying "hey i'm having toruble with silver lately, here i my manifest, can i get some help and suggestions" compared to one sayong "This game is too hard and its pissing me off" which one do you think will get more helpfull responses?

good points upinya.  The game is somewhat harder but I am back to being able to extract most of the time on gold (except pug collectors) and to not needing to use consumables anymore on silver.  These threads complaining about it need to stop.  Play a few games learn the nuances again and move on whining gets ya nowhere.  If you hate it that much take a break for a day or 2 and play something else. 

[doozerdude]

Seriously this is just sad... Please go get hit by a giant reaper laser.