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[FOX216BC]

 

[dreamgazer]

FOX216BC wrote...

I really like this one.

[GimmeDaGun]

So, they have their preferred ending. As long as it is not forced on anybody, it's ok, and it is not. I find it a slightly nice way to end the story, even if it is not the typical or conventional one, and not the one I prefer. You still have 3 other options there. Yeah, I know... no LI etc. ending...

[GimmeDaGun]

FOX216BC wrote...

 

Wow, I especially dig the Citadell con. art!

[MegaSovereign]

That's not even true.

Bioware isn't one entity. It's comprised of multiple people with different opinions.

I'm pretty sure Weekes and both the community managers said at one point that they prefer the Destroy ending.

[GimmeDaGun]

3DandBeyond wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I bet that if Synthesis didn't have that freaky green glow, and Shepard somehow survives it would be much more popular. Perfect ending. We get peace, and everybody lives!

I couldn't care less about green eyes.  What mattered to me was immersion in the story world and what logically the hero would do or was allowed to do.  BW hamstringed Shepard (neutered the character just as much as they did the reapers).  Shepard and the galaxy are in full on idiot mode in ME3, and Shepard starts the whole thing off early with the meeting before the commission and stupid dialogue-dialogue that was set up to tell you that you better hope like hell there's an amazing super weapon they will find and not invent, because they are too stupid to create any such thing on their own.  This is the most inept, incompetent, ignorant set of characters the galaxy has likely every known-no wonder a real fight is impossible.

Perfect ending?  How about a logical sensible ending based upon one goal and with consequences resulting from what was done throughout 3 games?  Consequences and not a sleepy anti-climactic choice.  How about not having one person decide the future for everyone in the galaxy, thereby throwing out the themes of strength through diversity and unity and redemption?  How about not having one person do something given little thought that seems expedient and that has a corollary to the whole story of the genophage?  And how about not using magic to change the organic DNA throughout the galaxy (with what tech) or give someone's idea of full understanding of organics to synthetics (whose understanding).  How about remembering that there were people in the MEU that didn't like even tech implants of any kind.  And how about not basing the whole ending on some last minute trumped up idea of a very minor ingame theme?

I'm not picking on you, or not intending to, but the idea is not one of just Shepard must live (though, that would be nice and is for me, desirable), it's also about Shepard living based upon authentic and believable, in character actions.  If Shepard lives but decides to just doom everyone to an uncertain future based on something that makes no real sense, then it's just as worthless as Shepard dying-in fact, a Shepard that would do these things, should die.  And a galaxy that is super happy afterward maybe doesn't deserve to live on either.

There's destroy for you. Logical and based on what you got during the trilogy. Yeah, the mighty hard "sacrafice" and "the end justifies the means" themes are nicely reperesented there too. And I love that. Synthesis is based on pseudo-science, just like many things in the trilogy and gives you the great maker of peace theme there. You resolve everything which ends up being a utopia. And the future is always uncertain, no matter how you end your story or what you do.

I would have hated an easy way out of this trilogy (the conventional big ass final fight thingy and the usual happy ending crap that many ending haters still demand). It makes you think and makes you make a hard decision. And thank God it is an ending and not a damn "to be continued... here comes the next Halo" thing. It's a trilogy which has an actual ending, as it should. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 24 octobre 2012 - 03:58 .

[FOX216BC]

 I think this one was made when TIM  was still considered to be a boss fight.
All the dead are either husk or cerberus troops.

[Raizo]

The EMS score that you need for 'synthesis' compared to the other endings says alot about how Bioware views 'synthesis'.

[Steelcan]

Was that a statue of Miranda in the Presidium picture?

[dreamgazer]

Raizo wrote...

The EMS score that you need for 'synthesis' compared to the other endings says alot about how Bioware views 'synthesis'.

The EMS score you need for Shepard to "survive" the decision chamber, which at one time was only available through their shiny new multiplayer, says quite a bit too.

[Steelcan]

Raizo wrote...

The EMS score that you need for 'synthesis' compared to the other endings says alot about how Bioware views 'synthesis'.

. What about the EMS for the breath scene?

[Raizo]

dreamgazer wrote...

Raizo wrote...

The EMS score that you need for 'synthesis' compared to the other endings says alot about how Bioware views 'synthesis'.

The EMS score you need for Shepard to "survive" the decision chamber, which at one time was only available through their shiny new multiplayer, says quite a bit too.

True.

[Raizo]

Steelcan wrote...

Was that a statue of Miranda in the Presidium picture?

Looks that way doesn't it.

[Steelcan]

Raizo wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Was that a statue of Miranda in the Presidium picture?

Looks that way doesn't it.

. I approve:D

[CosmicGnosis]

dreamgazer wrote...

Raizo wrote...

The EMS score that you need for 'synthesis' compared to the other endings says alot about how Bioware views 'synthesis'.

The EMS score you need for Shepard to "survive" the decision chamber, which at one time was only available through their shiny new multiplayer, says quite a bit too.

That's another intriguing riddle. You see, you can get the best Destroy ending with a lower EMS than the amount required for Synthesis. However, the breath scene requires even more EMS than Synthesis, and it's merely tacked on at the very end of the best version of Destroy.

[CosmicGnosis]

MegaSovereign wrote...

That's not even true.

Bioware isn't one entity. It's comprised of multiple people with different opinions.

I'm pretty sure Weekes and both the community managers said at one point that they prefer the Destroy ending.

Jessica Merizan prefers Synthesis. However, she has a playthrough where she assumes that the Indoctrination Theory is true, and chooses Destroy.

I have no idea about the others. I'd really like to know what Weekes really thinks. I'd also like Chris Priestly to clearly state his ending of choice.

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 24 octobre 2012 - 04:39 .

[d-boy15]

Steelcan wrote...

Raizo wrote...

The EMS score that you need for 'synthesis' compared to the other endings says alot about how Bioware views 'synthesis'.

. What about the EMS for the breath scene?

they put an effort to make that scene for 10 sec to reward a high EMS score, that very awesome.

and they not even bother to add or change it in Extended Cut, holy!@#!, they must really love destroy ending. 

[Samtheman63]

what makes you think this is from the synthesis ending?

[Steelcan]

d-boy15 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Raizo wrote...

The EMS score that you need for 'synthesis' compared to the other endings says alot about how Bioware views 'synthesis'.

. What about the EMS for the breath scene?

they put an effort to make that scene for 10 sec to reward a high EMS score, that very awesome.

and they not even bother to add or change it in Extended Cut, holy!@#!, they must really love destroy ending. 

. Calm down 

[devSin]

MegaSovereign wrote...

I'm pretty sure Weekes and both the community managers said at one point that they prefer the Destroy ending.

Actually, I believe Weekes and Jessica both have expressed their affinity for synthesis.

It really is intended to be the best ending, the correct way to end the trilogy. I'm guessing you made the wrong choice at the end?

Modifié par devSin, 24 octobre 2012 - 06:49 .

[Steelcan]

devSin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I'm pretty sure Weekes and both the community managers said at one point that they prefer the Destroy ending.

Actually, I believe Weekes and Jessica both have expressed their affinity for synthesis.

It really is intended to be the best ending, the correct way to end the trilogy. I'm guessing you made the wrong choice at the end?

. It sucks, and the popularity of destroy forced BioWare to back track and say there is no canon ending. N they knew their favorite ending was unpopular 

[Apocaleepse360]

I don't understand why they can't have that moment in the Control ending. Hell, I don't even know why BioWare favours Synthesis so much that they have to make Destroy become genocide. Seriously, I don't think the writers of that ending even played the previous two games, or even saw the script for the majority of the third.

[Ieldra]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Tomwew wrote...
also,'crashed on eden' just for metaphor purposes or a clue that they're on eden prime?

I think it refers to the fact that the original endings implied that the galaxy was going to experience a dark age in every ending. Synthesis would have been the most hopeful ending because Joker and EDI represented the Adam and Eve of organics and synthetics on a brand new world. The galaxy was essentially destroyed and reborn as something new.

Yes, that was the intention. But it didn't come across as hopeful to me. I recall I called the mindset that tried to sell this to me as hopeful "neo-luddite, reactionary pseudo-romanticism". I still stand by that.

And sex between Joker and EDI is still silly.

[Ieldra]

FOX216BC wrote...

Nice to see they have a statue of Miranda there...