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[OdanUrr]

Vestua wrote...

They could just impliment a system that allows you to customize their appearances and the what they did in the story at the start of the game.

If they weren't smart enough to implement the "trial scene" in ME3 as a way to customize Shepard's past decisions, I very much doubt they'll implement what you're asking for DA3.

[Bad King]

I personally don't want to see Hawke again and bringing the warden back for a cameo would be a waste of resources (plus lots of people's wardens are dead).

Modifié par Bad King, 24 octobre 2012 - 11:20 .

[Hatchetman77]

I'd be worried about my Darth Vaderish Arcane Warrior Mage Warden and master of the entrophy school showing up in mage robes and healing and generally doing something other than letting Redcliff get turned into zombies, burning down Amaranthine, letting little girls get posessed by demons and defiling the sacred ashes. 

[Vestua]

OdanUrr wrote...

Vestua wrote...

They could just impliment a system that allows you to customize their appearances and the what they did in the story at the start of the game.

If they weren't smart enough to implement the "trial scene" in ME3 as a way to customize Shepard's past decisions, I very much doubt they'll implement what you're asking for DA3.

Sadly this is true they actually could use this to chape the personalities of Hawke and the warden but they'll probalby just go with default appearance or only a passing appearance. You know like you see them walking down the street or something stupid where you never even will hear them talk.

[OdanUrr]

Vestua wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Vestua wrote...

They could just impliment a system that allows you to customize their appearances and the what they did in the story at the start of the game.

If they weren't smart enough to implement the "trial scene" in ME3 as a way to customize Shepard's past decisions, I very much doubt they'll implement what you're asking for DA3.

Sadly this is true they actually could use this to chape the personalities of Hawke and the warden but they'll probalby just go with default appearance or only a passing appearance. You know like you see them walking down the street or something stupid where you never even will hear them talk.

Take ToR, Revan is your standard human male and KotoR lore be damned.

[Eshaye]

I'm fine with simple mentions, the PC character should just be in the game you play as them, since that person is just one perspective on the whole of the story of Dragon Age. I'd much rather have cameos of companions. UNLESS THEY ARE DEAD.

Yes?

[Doctoglethorpe]

I'd be happy if they just take the old Revan rout and keep him in a mask.  Or her... they didn't go that far for Revan but they could for the Warden.  Have the warden male or female and the appropriate body structure for the race, thats not a problem at all, but keep him/her fully cloaked and masked (or otherwise obscured like by a shadowy hood) so that theres absolutely no conflict of appearences. 

It would make sense for the voice to be kind of gravely and the character to act specificly very serious regardless of how you played them in DAO because don't forget they have lived with the darkspawn taint now for over a decade and have been through a lot of rough ****, possibly even spent time in the fade with Morrigan.  That would change people.  It wouldn't suprise me if Bioware decided to finally put the warden to rest in DA3 by having their calling take place.  Its every Warden's destiny after all and it would free them up in a completely reasonable way to not have to worry about satisfying peoples hunger for revisiting that character in future games.

Lets just hope they don't decide the Warden's calling diserves the Amy Wong treatment.  :mellow:


PS: As for Hawke I don't really care.  I played default face anyways and even then for all I care he could just be mentioned without actually being shown.  I feel little connection to him compared to the Warden.  But still, the cloak and obscure rout would work for him too.  Even easier so since you wouldn't need elf and dwarf models. 

[Rziha]

I kind of imagined that if either Hawke or the Warden are brought back it could be among a crowd of people because they are so famous or the aforementioned Ball. You would be in the back and hear the people around you saying things like..."Isn't that the Hero of Ferelden?...Oh I think is is! At which point people start pushing in as the Warden is escorted past you and you get a glance of them from behind in a hooded cloak. That would be enough for me to smile.

I kinda got the impression the Seekers are hunting them. Not sure about Hawke's cameo...Maybe a cameo fight with the LI because your getting to close. /shrug we shall see.

Modifié par Rziha, 25 octobre 2012 - 04:18 .

[Amirit]

It seems like the Ball is the only option Helmets are good but really - cheap move. Though, I confess, can not suggest anything else. The very idea of Warden cameo is a bit weird to me.

[Vestua]

Btw isn't the player characer around teen years old when the first dragon age takes place? If so couldnt they make a little cutscene at the start where someones telling them a story of the warden? They could have it so you could use a default appearance if you wanted or a custom one...but like I mentioned earlier the chances are they'll have them only metnioned or have a cameo where you cant see their face or hear them speak and not sure what they'll do about Hawke though...

[dsl08002]

i want to be able to impor thm and play as them again., not hawke in my case, i want the warden again( my character not a pre-set one)

But bioware cannot continue to claim that those two are missing in the next game, if they continue to do that then its criminal in my opinion

[Tootles FTW]

I could see a portrait or wanted poster that you could investigate & alter, or a part in the intro of the game where Cassandra or someone appropriate hands you a sketch of the Warden & Hawke to acquaint you w them, and you're able to tweak the appearance then. Maybe you're even the sketch artist?

My problem is that they all (my mains, at least) will look remarkably similar.

[UrgentArchengel]

They need to appear. Considering what the plot is probably gonna be, they are too important to not be appearing.

[NRieh]

Btw isn't the player characer around teen years old when the first dragon age takes place?

Ha! Shame on me. I did not really take into account such a "little" thing as huge timeline. It's something like 10-15 years since Archdemon fall, right?

Well, I can't say that people do not change at all, but still there must be some similiarities. Then - using any kind of "real" facecode is next to impossible. Because even if I can (possibly) imagine some kind of hypothetical "face import" - there's no chance that they will write a complex "aging" algorithms.

So - very likely no face seen for any of two. Hawke still has his\\her voice, Warden still has 6 possible models. Both have their unique names, given by player.

They could just impliment a system that allows you to customize their appearances and the what they did in the story at the start of the game.

Come on! We're still talking about cameos. No matter how big their role is - no one is going to waste resources on something that complex and optional. Many have Warden dead. Some played default Hawkes (or preset Wardens).

As I understand it - the solution must be simple, but still (hopefully) looking good.

Someone mentioned helmet or cloak - yes, the most "default" way out. Which still works not so good for mages - because no cloaks or robes usually cover the face. The most natural one - is warrior wearing full plate.

They could work with camera angles. I mean Character sees a face, and player - does not. Like they did in ME2 in Tali's scene. Where Shepard saw something that was never shown to player.

[CENIC]

Player agency ended when the game ended. It's up to Bioware to decide what the Hero of Fereldan and the Champion of Kirkwall do next. I'll keep my headcanons close, but I'm curious to see what happens with these cameos.

[Amirit]

CENIC wrote...
Player agency ended when the game ended. It's up to Bioware to decide what the Hero of Fereldan and the Champion of Kirkwall do next.

Sure thing, but is it up to BW to decide how do they look? Which is the point of OP.

Modifié par Amirit, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:39 .

[sarcastictruths]

I like the idea of Hawke and the Warden making an appearance in Dragon Age 3, and that opinion hasn't changed with the understandable concern people have regarding this. I am not certain of all the concern about having Hawke and the Warden are, but I will look into two  that seems important to me.

1. The appearance of Hawke and the Warden. The fact that Bioware is using a different engine for Dragon Age 3 then it did for the other two games. It's going from Eclipes to frostbite 2. ( I could be getting my names mixed up. Whatever) People are wondering how their characters will look in the third installment of the game. There is also concerned with way their elves will look with the new elf design.

People have suggest that in order to avoid this the player should be able to recreate their Warden and Hawke in a custom character creation screen. The problem with this is when should this screen pop up, and is it really worth the effort when more then likely Hawke or the Warden appearance will be very short. I personally only want to mess with that custom character creation screen for a character that will be a major part of the story. So, if I encounter Hawke and the Warden in one scene, and they don't look exactly like I imagine them then I am perfectly fine with that.

2. The Warden's voice. The warden was silent. He/she didn't speak unless in random phrases during combat unlike Hawke. There is concern about what the Warden should sound like. Some say that the Warden should retain that silence, and that they should be around someone that will speak for them. I actually like this idea, only because I find it amusing.

I also thought that perhaps they should bring back the voice actors whom provided the voices in the voice set you picked at the beginning of the game. Through, I am uncertain how this will work since some of those voices are major characters in Origins and Dragon Age 2. I read someplace that the Bioware team doesn't like having a voice actor do more then one major character in a series (Dragon Age, Mass effect)

In the end, I am perfectly okay with both Hawke and the Warden only appearing as codex enteries.

[Palipride47]

I don't want to see them (I'd like to hear about them, of course. Rumors, the truth, or even meeting their companions)

If I see them, I want hood/masks/shadows/blue cloud thing ala Malcolm in Legacy. I don't care how Hawke sounds (as long as Wyatt/ Boulton voices them, Hawke's been though a lot, they can be serious just this once)

I prefer a silent Warden, but ultimately don't care, as long as City Elf doesn't break out into Orlesian or Fereldan Human accent.

I don't want to see their faces. If my olive skinned or ebony Hawke is bleached to canon Hawke, I will (rightfully, for once) freak.

There are so many ways to anger so many people with this issue, I think this is one they should just leave on the table.

[sarcastictruths]

Palipride47 wrote...

I don't want to see them (I'd like to hear about them, of course. Rumors, the truth, or even meeting their companions)

If I see them, I want hood/masks/shadows/blue cloud thing ala Malcolm in Legacy. I don't care how Hawke sounds (as long as Wyatt/ Boulton voices them, Hawke's been though a lot, they can be serious just this once)

I prefer a silent Warden, but ultimately don't care, as long as City Elf doesn't break out into Orlesian or Fereldan Human accent.

I don't want to see their faces. If my olive skinned or ebony Hawke is bleached to canon Hawke, I will (rightfully, for once) freak.

There are so many ways to anger so many people with this issue, I think this is one they should just leave on the table.

I agree their is so many ways to anger so many people with this issue, and while it's seems to be easy to anger so many people with any issue that has to do with Dragon Age. I can't help but feeling this is the issue that people will get the most angry about. People love their characters, and who can blame them. I love my characters. It is for this reason, while I would like the idea of my Hawke or Warden making an appearance, I am okay with them either being left on the table, or even mention in codexs.