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[robarcool]

Yuck. Some minor nerfs to enemies and kind of big nerfs to destroyer and demolisher. Very very bad.

[Lyria]

SirRooster wrote...

And destroyer was Derek Hollan's favorite character >.<

Anyone else think the balance meeting went like this?

Eric: "Hey, Derek what's your favorite kit?"

Derek: "Destroyer, why?"

Eric: "Im going to nerf it over the head.

*nerf*

LoL."

Modifié par protognosis, 24 octobre 2012 - 07:42 .

[Budukai]

Sad to see some devastator nerfs, but I like the buffs he got =) anything to stay alive just a little longer.

[Volc19]

The nerf to Devastator mode has dramatically lowered the viability of the PPR, CSR and CSMG, as the Destroyer was the optimal class for those guns.

Furthermore, why nerf Supply Pylon? It's not like people can hold a position for more than a second anymore. Dragoons and Bombers still exist unaltered, so Supply Pylon's viability was already low.

As far as the enemy nerfs go, what does the hit reaction bit in the Geth Hunter section entail? Are we 'reacting' more to their attacks? Does this mean more staggering? Clarity would be nice.

I honestly feel like most of this missed the mark on what the problems where.

[Mozts]

Loved the changes. Both Destroyer and Demolisher still great characters. Amazingly powerful. There no need to make a big deal about it.

[Vigilante1024]

The mag size nerf does not make the game more fun. It makes the game less fun.

I am highly skeptical of there being any usage data showing an unreasonable utilization of the Destroyer with mag size evo.

[johan.jvr13]

I really don't care much for the rest. That last line that pointed out the Cryo explosion buff... Now that I do care about!! Happy Happy

[Imp of the Perverse]

When you say:

- Base frequency for spawning ammo increased from 15 to 17.5 seconds
- Base frequency for spawning grenades increased from 20 to 24 seconds

By frequency, do you mean period? Frequency is measured in Hz, or cycles per second (1/s), period is the inverse of that, measured in seconds. I guess you could mean frequency in a non-technical way as just "how frequently they're dropped", but then in that case increasing the frequency would mean making them drop more frequently. Thank you, I'll go back to calibrating things now. Or, more likely, checking out the new snowstorm on firebase white.

[Seerezaro]

Vigilante1024 wrote...

The mag size nerf does not make the game more fun. It makes the game less fun.

I am highly skeptical of there being any usage data showing an unreasonable utilization of the Destroyer with mag size evo.

I find the mag size nerf a respectible sacrifice to the new Hawk ML overlords, all hail missle launcher.

[Julian Skies]

- Fix Krogan Shaman's shockwave. Or whatever it is that doesn't make him able to detonate BE properly. It destroys the point of the character, pretty much.

ctually I noticed a very, VERY strange thing with my Shaman yesterday. I thought I was going through the famous biotic blank bug or perhaps the famous shockwave bug on PC, but...
I warped a Centurion, ran into melee range and hit him with shockwave, melee'd him to death.
I looked down at the kill feed. Julian Skies [Biotic Explosion] Assault Tropper. There was an Assault Trooper, now dead, beside him.
I was the only biotic in the team.

For some reason I was detonating invisible biotic explosions?

I wonder if there are other cases of invisible detonation?

[xxNoxMercyxx]

Thank you for the Husk point increase, it seems to have been enough of a change to make a significant dent in my challenge.

[Kogia]

Overall good stuff, some surprises, but nothing game destroying (ignoring the whine). Drell & Turian buffs especially were a well thought out move.

Got the AsValk in fist psp, took her for a spin and need to practice more. She's odd, but could be fun.

[poonts]

perhaps the destroyer nerfs were necessary in order to buff some of the weapons? seems to be what Mr Fagnan was eluding to.

[Dark Tlaloc]

I'm not happy with the nerfs to the destroyer (great class, sure, but not the most interesting in the world, so this only makes him less interesting), but if it keeps them from nerfing my favorite gun (PPR), I'll live with it.

On the other hand, given that Collectors are still overpowered (not really complaining, just saying), Geth are still bugged, and Dragoons are still simply retarded, I hope that the character nerfs stay to a minimum until all the above are properly fixed/balanced.

[FUBARczar]

 Is this some kind of joke?  Hands down worst patch ever!!!

That's not a meaningful debuff for the geth.  Hint stun locking to death does not equal good or fun gameplay.  

The Demolisher and Destroyer debuffs were unwarranted (in fact they were downright lousy).  Was the intent to vanilla them to death/unplayability?

Where's the increase to the Drell shields to a normal value?  There's still nothing to balance out their half shields.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Why did Brutes get more health? Now they're the Incredible Hulk.

The changes for Dragoons won't really do anything to stop them from running too fast while constantly spawning on/near an objective to spam whips.

Killed N7 Destroyer's Devistator mode. Increased shield penalty for a skill that always shoots floors/walls? What character that is actually useful do you plan to make worthless next?

Ruined the Demolishers supply pylon? Why? It was perfectly balanced. Way to kill another class.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

I'm not happy with the nerfs to the destroyer (great class, sure, but not the most interesting in the world, so this only makes him less interesting), but if it keeps them from nerfing my favorite gun (PPR), I'll live with it.

The things they nerfed on him didn't even affect the PPR in the first place except magazine size which was really not helpful anyways:o

Modifié par ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame, 24 octobre 2012 - 07:57 .

[D Ashby 8]

 That Devastator mode nerf is B.S. There was nothing wrong with it before. >

[Mozts]

FUBARczar wrote...

 Is this some kind of joke?  Hands down worst patch ever!!!

That's not a meaningful debuff for the geth.  Hint stun locking to death does not equal good or fun gameplay.  

The Demolisher and Destroyer debuffs were unwarranted (in fact they were downright lousy).  Was the intent to vanilla them to death/unplayability?

Where's the increase to the Drell shields to a normal value?  There's still nothing to balance out their half shields.

lol

Destroyer still among the most powefull character. Drell never needed shield increase, if you think so, you don't play them enough.

Geth Prime lost his magic-poping turret, and that is great in itself. Plus, Hunter was nerfed, so read first.

[Dbohr]

What about fixing the new Turian challenges in Commando Mastery, Eric? It's still broken.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

D Ashby 8 wrote...

 That Devastator mode nerf is B.S. There was nothing wrong with it before. >

BioWare logic. If it isn't broken then fix it. If it is broken then leave it alone ..... 

[ZerebusPrime]

ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame wrote...
Increased shield penalty for a skill that always shoots floors/walls? 

No, it's a double negative.  It actually gives you the option to increase your shields.  Before you could reduce the 50% penalty by 25%.  Now you can reduce the 50% penalty by 40%.  

Quick Math Quiz! Does the Evolution 1 option give a net shield reduction of 10% (that's 50 - 40) or 30% (subtract 40% of 50%)?

[Dark Tlaloc]

ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame wrote...

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

I'm not happy with the nerfs to the destroyer (great class, sure, but not the most interesting in the world, so this only makes him less interesting), but if it keeps them from nerfing my favorite gun (PPR), I'll live with it.

The things they nerfed on him didn't even affect the PPR in the first place 

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Well, they decreased magazine size. It's been a while since I used the PPR on the destroyer; does it not increase mag size on the PPR? I thought I remembered it did.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

So release of Asari Sentinal = Game wants me to get Ultra-rare guns over new character? loving this 

I mean:
Typhoon V
Waith V
Collector SMG III
Harrier III

I'll take those over Asari anything :innocent:

Modifié par ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame, 24 octobre 2012 - 08:00 .

[brazil]

Geth`s nerf??? It`s joke???
Your need nerf a Collectors!!!