October 24 Multiplayer Balance Changes
#551
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 11:37
#552
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 12:04
Cornughon wrote...
Damn all this whining never seems to end...
Nobody is whining... We are stating our opinions!
And I am going to state my opinion as long as I please... And so should everyone else!
The Devs changed classes without getting the input of the community. Should we just keep quiet and sit on our hands?
Modifié par D4RK V3NOM, 26 octobre 2012 - 12:21 .
#553
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 02:29
EDIT: Not saying the glitches are more important, but a lot of them that do happen frequently give the enemy an unfair advantage, like trying to use abilities that the character goes through the motion of showing they are doing it, but nothing happens i.e. Demolisher throwing nothing, ops pack sound plays but no health and shields are regenerated, cannot revive player (which the last two almost always result in death,) etc.
Modifié par SgtAmazing, 26 octobre 2012 - 03:42 .
#554
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 03:53
#555
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:06
D4RK V3NOM wrote...
Cornughon wrote...
Damn all this whining never seems to end...
Nobody is whining... We are stating our opinions!
And I am going to state my opinion as long as I please... And so should everyone else!
The Devs changed classes without getting the input of the community. Should we just keep quiet and sit on our hands?
When people cry out that some of the best classes in the game are "useless" because of some minor nerfs, I call whining.
#556
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:15
D4RK V3NOM wrote...
Cornughon wrote...
Damn all this whining never seems to end...
Nobody is whining... We are stating our opinions!
And I am going to state my opinion as long as I please... And so should everyone else!
The Devs changed classes without getting the input of the community. Should we just keep quiet and sit on our hands?
Sure.
Support Bioware give to this game is unbelievable.
Their system track everything, every char DPS and use, every situation. Only a blind guy can't see Destroyer's nerf was right.
Sadly see players like some players these days. Want all the time easy things, easy win button. Even using glitches to win.
Everything Bioware does will have some whining people. Even Retaliation DLC had. Amazing free DLC. Whining guys was there.
#557
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:25
Before the nerf: Devastator spec for full magazine size = 60% size of the maganize
Nerfed Devastator Mode: Devastator spec for full magazine size = 35% size of the magazine.
They nerfed the ability for 41,7%.... Really Bioware?
I have no problem if they nerfed, but more than 20%? This is ridiculous.
I DONT SEE A MINOR NERF HERE!
Modifié par Ziguehart, 26 octobre 2012 - 04:27 .
#558
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:35
When are you going to fix the obvious flaws with this game? The servers, the store, the system freezes, the disconnects, the missing gear, the artificial grinding, etc.
That is all I really care about...When our fun begins to outweigh your insatiable lust for money. Maybe...then maybe I will start to support you again.
Until you do that I will continue playing my other games and supporting game developers that don't see me as a paycheck but as a loyal customer to whom they should be grateful. Not whining or complaining. Merely stating the facts.
#559
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:54
#560
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 05:06
Sure.
Support Bioware give to this game is unbelievable.
Their system track everything, every char DPS and use, every situation. Only a blind guy can't see Destroyer's nerf was right.
Sadly see players like some players these days. Want all the time easy things, easy win button. Even using glitches to win.
Everything Bioware does will have some whining people. Even Retaliation DLC had. Amazing free DLC. Whining guys was there.
The problem is, bioware seems just doing stuff randomly at times.
How on earth was the destroyer overpowered? It was a decent class, but it was no where near the pre-nerf GI or anything.
And how was supply pylon overpowered? What? There just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reason to the changes. Both classes were gold worthy, but hardly better than any of the other choices.
It just seems kinda random at times.
#561
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 05:09
IronRush wrote...
D4RK V3NOM wrote...
Cornughon wrote...
Damn all this whining never seems to end...
Nobody is whining... We are stating our opinions!
And I am going to state my opinion as long as I please... And so should everyone else!
The Devs changed classes without getting the input of the community. Should we just keep quiet and sit on our hands?
Sure.
Support Bioware give to this game is unbelievable.
Their system track everything, every char DPS and use, every situation. Only a blind guy can't see Destroyer's nerf was right.
Sadly see players like some players these days. Want all the time easy things, easy win button. Even using glitches to win.
Everything Bioware does will have some whining people. Even Retaliation DLC had. Amazing free DLC. Whining guys was there.
Please. Give us an example of how it was right. Really, what was so right about it?
I'm not even commenting on the broken literature and, immature belittling of opinions.
Modifié par nSquared75, 26 octobre 2012 - 05:09 .
#562
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 05:32
Modifié par Shakespeare212, 26 octobre 2012 - 07:36 .
#563
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 05:39
Atheosis wrote...
D4RK V3NOM wrote...
Cornughon wrote...
Damn all this whining never seems to end...
Nobody is whining... We are stating our opinions!
And I am going to state my opinion as long as I please... And so should everyone else!
The Devs changed classes without getting the input of the community. Should we just keep quiet and sit on our hands?
When people cry out that some of the best classes in the game are "useless" because of some minor nerfs, I call whining.
And when people cry "overpowered" in a CO-OP game where everyone has equal access to the same characters and weapons regardless of the players disposable income, and the XP and Spacebux are devided up evenly?
I guess we'll call that tragically self efacing.
Particularly when "Overpowered" is code for "Other people don't play the game like I want them to".
Modifié par FrankNstyle, 26 octobre 2012 - 05:42 .
#564
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:14
IronRush wrote...
D4RK V3NOM wrote...
Cornughon wrote...
Damn all this whining never seems to end...
Nobody is whining... We are stating our opinions!
And I am going to state my opinion as long as I please... And so should everyone else!
The Devs changed classes without getting the input of the community. Should we just keep quiet and sit on our hands?
Sure.
Support Bioware give to this game is unbelievable.
Their system track everything, every char DPS and use, every situation. Only a blind guy can't see Destroyer's nerf was right.
Sadly see players like some players these days. Want all the time easy things, easy win button. Even using glitches to win.
Everything Bioware does will have some whining people. Even Retaliation DLC had. Amazing free DLC. Whining guys was there.
Yet you were just defending an easy button not too long ago............... A hypocritic statement at it's finest?
#565
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:29
Play to the needs of the team or find another lobby... No tweaks needed considering the tank cant side step. Destro can be a loud bulls eye. Game don't lie people.
Modifié par lktalon22, 26 octobre 2012 - 06:32 .
#566
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:58
#567
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:34
flibber89-2 wrote...
If the change to the Destroyer hinders anyones ability to be successful with that character they are not skilled in any way at playing this game.. it really is a minor change.
Nothing to do with it. The affected evo may have been important for a specific build. This equates to either relying on consumables to take of the slack or, changing the build entirely. A change of build equating playing the kit entirely different. Someone else is dictating how others are supposed to play. This is being done for no logical reason so, people are going to complain. The kit was never OP to begin with. While those with full manifests to begin with may not be affected; the majority of those who do not, will feel the burn.
#568
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 09:13
#569
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 11:36
Atheosis wrote...
D4RK V3NOM wrote...
Cornughon wrote...
Damn all this whining never seems to end...
Nobody is whining... We are stating our opinions!
And I am going to state my opinion as long as I please... And so should everyone else!
The Devs changed classes without getting the input of the community. Should we just keep quiet and sit on our hands?
When people cry out that some of the best classes in the game are "useless" because of some minor nerfs, I call whining.
The Reason people complain about this game is that everyone (including me) have our own ideas of how to balance. Unfortunately we dont have this power to do so. These complaints only come because we all love this game, even when we are most frustrated. Im sure Bioware gets tired of the whining, but also realize that it is an issue because a lot of people play this game and care about it and dont want to see their enemies get harder while their "go to" characters and weapons get weaker.
#570
Posté 27 octobre 2012 - 12:51
Chi_Mangetsu wrote...
@Clips: The nerfing is about as minimal as you can get. If anything this bemoaning is indicative of how one track mind the class is. To say he wasn't a dominant character is nonsense considering how frequently it was the most used in the Galaxy-wide Manifest updates. Anecdotal, but the past few weeks I haven't had many games sans the Destroyer. And again, Destroyers walking forward on pizza deliveries with DM on. So irritating.
And I can't speak for anyone else, but the HML-less Destroyer is the most mind-numbingly tedious grind character I have ever played in ME3 MP.
The destroyer is wildly popular because he is cool. And because he is cool, he must die.
#571
Posté 27 octobre 2012 - 02:15
I could understand nerfing the Destroyer if the game hadn't been made significantly more difficult with the last several balance changes and updates, but now that enemies are so much more dangerous the Destroyer was just right for the challenge. He's supposed to have massive firepower, because that's all he has. He's slow, unable to dodge, and he doesn't get the kind of attack powers that most kits do, or healing, combos, etc. Devastator mode is the one thing that makes up for the Destroyer lacking in all these other areas. If you trash it then it no longer makes up for the character's other deficiencies and he'll just join the ranks of the other underpowered soldier classes.
I don't think the Destroyer is ruined, but It's the wrong kind of change to be making when the problem is that the enemies are overpowered, not the players.
#572
Posté 27 octobre 2012 - 02:31
#573
Posté 27 octobre 2012 - 06:03
#574
Posté 27 octobre 2012 - 06:07
#575
Posté 27 octobre 2012 - 07:14





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