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[Aleister99e99]

I've beaten her with 2 mages in the party. Just cycle through various spells to paralyze/petrify/freeze/whetever her while you mop up her support then you can take her down.

[Serogon]

skotie wrote...

Marso40 wrote...
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HERE I WILL USE CAP LOCKS SO I CAN BE LIKE THE COOL KIDS!!!! I KNOW FULLY WELL THAT I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO WIN THE FIGHT BUT IF YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO WIN WHY IN THE HELL DO YOU GET THE OPTION OF FIGHTING HER AS A OP BOSS STRONGER THAN THE ARCH DEMON HIMSELF???

Has it ever occured to you that you could have simply been hauled off to the dungeons without a fight like the tower. Also of course you couldn't save Duncan, there is nothing saying you could have not escaped the tower without Flemeth's help though.

All you would have to do when you exited the tower was see the overrun battlefeild to know the fight was lost and so you retreated into the forest with your lives. No you do not need Morrigan to find your way out of the woods, you do not need a damn guide to find your way anywhere else Morrigan is not needed.

Ummm, I don't know... maybe because this a role playing game? Where you can make decisions and stuff? And it might not fit with everyone's character to just surrender? Nah, that's ridiculous... it must just be some crazy random decision from Bioware!

[ozsras]

The only time I ever beat her at Arl Howe's estate was with a DW Warrior in the Diligence armor, with the ring of the warrior and the warden necklace. I had the Topsider's Blade and the Keening Blade. That was it. All the archers killed Morrigan, Wynne and Leliana - I took on the mage first and then went after the archers then when Cauthrien was done slaughtering my group she came after me.



Honestly? I have no idea how that plan worked. I set no traps, had everyone else on AI and basically went in there with my daggers flying and no hope of winning. The only thing I can figure that made me able to kill her was that I had tons of health potions.



Haven't been able to do it since though so maybe I just got lucky.

[Naiser]

I'd say in this regard, Isabela is just as bad ass. I tried to support the "sore losers" in her skirmish through liberal healing and throwing Forcefields when necessary. It took a long while to whittle her health down to a sliver. While I anticipated the death knell, it never came. She fought on like a women possessed even when her aggresors were cutting at her "lifeless" body and eventually sent them packing.



Sadly after becoming a duelist, it doesn't quite do the same for me.

[Klickklack]

Personally, i found that the real problem were the archers. Without them, the fight was a lot easier.

[Captain Crash]

I was a Blood Mage when I beat her. Used Blood wound first to cripple everyone, then used a barrage of hex's on her. Misdirection, vulnerability and death. That took a dent in my health so turned off blood magic and had all my lyrium based bar at full to heal myself and focus on the mage. Got Alistair, Ogren and Morrigan to focus on Ser Cauthrien. It was a very stop start battle in all. As alot of lyrium and health potions were used but I beat her and then finished off the final couple of guards.



However never once did she turn of my tanks, if she went for me or Morrigan I think the battle would have been quickly over. I think I was never or around Lvl 20 for this fight.

[LynxAQ]

Sorry but I personally think the door behind you is suppose to close and lock, like every other boss fight in the game that happens indoors. That was imo an over sight. It will also explain the bad AI on the archers. If yu run away and exploit the fight, you have not actually beaten the fight as far as I am concerned. Yes, running away is exploiting the bad AI, no matter what you say. If the archers all followed you, then I would say running is a valid tactic. Seeing as the archers seem to be coded to stay where they are, I can confidently say that the door was suppose to lock at the start of the fight and running out of the room was never intended.



This is most likely one of those things they will never bother fixing now.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

To some extent I agree Lynx but in some other respects some of them would have to stay at the estate's main door to guard it so you can't find another way to get to it. ie. via a trip through the dungeon.

But of course, you can't go there thanks to Erlina! I still think this is the main flaw, the only reason you can't go into the dungeon again is because soon as you try to Erlina states that should take the quick route. We should be able to respond to that with "Oh you mean the exit that is seriously guarded, yes good plan you stupid orlesian!" (actually that is another issue of mine, Loghain hates Orlesians and yet his own daughter has a stupid orlesian bint?).

But yeah going back to what you say Lynx, I agree that they should have had it that either the door gets magically shut (hell if Howe's mages can magically seal doors, why can't Cauthrien's?) or have it that a load of guards come up behind the party akin to the scene in 'Empire Strikes Back' when Han, Leia and Chewie get ambushed by Vader and his troopers.

[AsheraII]

Ser Cauthrien is about as hard as, or perhaps even slightly easier than, the archdemon. Ser Cauthrien just has way better supporting NPC's than the archdemon.

[CREinstein]

I went without really caring to try, Wynne, Morigan, Alistar, and my level 24 magical mistress of doom.



Morigan has been specced spirit healer to ressurrect level, so she can help if Wynn falls.



Not trying very hard, but I did wipe the clock on 3 of the archers, and got 15% of the health on Ser Cauthrien.



I think if I could have Shale this part would be pretty much a cakewalk, the archers would focus on him, and I could have sent wynn and morigan to do cones of cold on the archers while I played tag with the 'I have got a big sword and I am female' of a warrior... I like that your female, but having a bigger sword than me scares me, imma keep away from you!

[13obitus13]

the key is nukeing the archers fast, used both Morrigan and wynne whit aoe spells, and as tanks found 2h mutch easier whit the immunity to stun/knockdown, and she dies easy for me alltoe my 2h only hits for 70none crits cry 300 is sweet for a foxy lady xD

[BHRamsay]

Sorry Leliana's ex is by far the most unreasonably tough boss in the game. there is no reason for her to hit as hard as she does or do the damage she does.

[13obitus13]

aye Leliana´s ex hits wicked hard, concidering she hasnet any weapon equiped =)

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

BHRamsay wrote...

Sorry Leliana's ex is by far the most unreasonably tough boss in the game. there is no reason for her to hit as hard as she does or do the damage she does.

That is why all Orlesians should be executed (including Leliana)

FOR FERELDEN!

[Orca Orcinus]

I don't know about anyone else, but the cinematic doesn't allow me to 'pull' anyone. Ser Cauthrien and her dastardly duo were on us like white on rice. We are enmeshed in combat as soon as it ends. Her thugs rushed us in Anora's room, everytime. Finally took her and her friends down, without losing anyone - but the damned mage and spamming archers make it almost impossible to get out of the room alive. Must be nice to have a chance to do something tactical, other than throw sleep and mass nightmare and run for cover. Still, it didn't take me nearly as long to eliminate her as it did to defeat the Archdemon without any named NPCs assisting us. (Eamon, Irving etc never show up, ever, at the end).  I had no idea what I was in for with Cauthrien, but after the Dwarven Noble origin - there's no way in hell he's going to allow himself to be taken to prison again (also he keeps his coins in a very strange place).  I had Ohgren, Zevran, Morrigan, and my Dwarven Warrior Beserker/Reaver... got her into Anora's with her lieutenants, and then all hell broke loose.  Zevran's backstabs were the difference I needed, along with healthy doses of poison.

The Summer sword is quite a nice addition to my 2-handed warrior's collection tho...especially for stabbing Loghain's punk arse with it!

Modifié par Orca Orcinus, 14 janvier 2010 - 05:52 .

[Arinosmirc]

Pfft, my Champ/Templar solo'd her AND her minions! Nevermind that I didn't know about rally being broken, and at this time, had attack and defense in the excess of 800 lol...she didn't even touch me once...which is what made me wonder what happened and looked at my stats.

[RoudyRogue]

I've only completed one play through and decided I would never surrender. After a couple of failed attempts at staying in the beginning room and trying to wipe out her goons first I decided to just run and see what happened. I equip every character with a bow as a secondary weapon unless they are an archer or mage. Once I got her in the room, whoever had aggro on her would run in circles around the room while everyone else just pecked at her health with their arrows. When aggro changed, I switched characters and continued to run in circles.

[darrenr22]

Fighting Cauthrien frightened the life out of me because I figured that the final battles and the archdemon were going to be even tougher. Of course, it did not turn out that way.



I managed to beat her by pulling her back to the library and micromanaging the party so nobody did anything to pull her off Alistair, who was tanking and using poultices.

[lleggs30]

man, when i encountered her I saw her and her massive support and i didn't even think about fighting. My party basically had no AoE either. PC rogue, Alistair, Wynne and dog, nope, not gonna happen lol

[Lord Phoebus]

Ser Cauthrien misses most of her attacks with a defense of around 150, so glyph of warding, rally, dueling, incense of awareness, etc. on a dex tank is a good way to handle her.  Her archers are insane though, either run into the hallway or lock them down with CC and take them out pronto, while the high def character tanks Ser C.  Seriously though, why would your character leave the hallway and stand in the middle of the atrium to talk to her?  Did he/she take one too many blows to the head killing Howe?

Modifié par Lord Phoebus, 14 janvier 2010 - 03:22 .

[DariusTrue]

The issue with Cauthrien are the adds, all spamming scattershot. If you aren't good at kiting or don't have a great AoE mage, then you may as well give up. On her own she does deal a rediculous amount of damage per hit, I'd say it's because she is the archdemon in disguise...

[Atmosfear3]

I defeated Cauthrien in Howe's estate. I didn't the first time but a little strategy won it for me.



Sleep + Waking Nightmare = lol guards turning on each other

Affliction Hex [on Cauthrien for max uptime]

Fireball

Walking Bomb

Cone of Cold

Shock

Flame Blast

Crushing Prison and Petrify/Stonefist the mages



Once the archers were all down, it was just a matter of knocking down and stunning Cauthrien every cooldown.

[YooperLaw]

I too wish she could be recruited because she's pretty much one of the biggest badasses in the entire game. I finally took her down on my second playthrough (Normal difficulty) although she had my number. Just pulled her (and a few others) far away from the ambush site back towards the dungeon. Had Alistair and Sten tank her with my and Wynne both acting as healing mages spamming heals nonstop with the tanks taking a fair bit of potions ... keep in mind that I'm at like level 20 or 21 by this point as well.

With about 45% of her health left she got annoyed at my PC and didn't stop chasing me for about 5 minutes when she finally died. I had to keep freezing and petrifying her but man she wouldn't drop the aggro no matter how much I had Alistair and Sten try.

Damn shame she had to be killed (I don't care for the dungeon rescue) but her sword is quite swank. Sten enjoyed it greatly for slaying the Archdemon.

Modifié par YooperLaw, 15 janvier 2010 - 02:53 .

[ericsa]

With misdirectional hex she's a walk in the park. Downed her first try in hard (second playthrough).