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#401
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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

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TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

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Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.

You're wrong.

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George Washington was responsible for burning the village. Kaniehti:io's database entry and the chat between Connor, Washington and Haytham confirm that.

Modifié par Carcharoth42, 03 novembre 2012 - 10:22 .


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Carcharoth42 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.

You're wrong.

SPOILERS:




George Washington was responsible for burning the village. Kaniehti:io's database entry and the chat between Connor, Washington and Haytham confirm that.


SPOILERS

No I'm right if I recall Lee told connor he was going to burn hishomestead and destory everything he loved and then he has a drink, awful, not mention lee manages to get a ship when he's been shot and connor has been stabbed.

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Carcharoth42 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.

You're wrong.

SPOILERS:




George Washington was responsible for burning the village. Kaniehti:io's database entry and the chat between Connor, Washington and Haytham confirm that.


SPOILERS

No I'm right if I recall Lee told connor he was going to burn hishomestead and destory everything he loved and then he has a drink, awful, not mention lee manages to get a ship when he's been shot and connor has been stabbed.

Lee burnt the village when connor was a kid BUT washington wanted to destroy it when connor was an adult but he stopped it

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Carcharoth42

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KOM_95 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Carcharoth42 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.

You're wrong.

SPOILERS:




George Washington was responsible for burning the village. Kaniehti:io's database entry and the chat between Connor, Washington and Haytham confirm that.


SPOILERS

No I'm right if I recall Lee told connor he was going to burn hishomestead and destory everything he loved and then he has a drink, awful, not mention lee manages to get a ship when he's been shot and connor has been stabbed.

Lee burnt the village when connor was a kid BUT washington wanted to destroy it when connor was an adult but he stopped it

Washington burnt the village when Connor was a kid and sent troops for the same purpose when he was an adult. Lee threatened to burn the Homestead. The Templars never touched the village.

Modifié par Carcharoth42, 03 novembre 2012 - 11:05 .


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@Carcharoth42 Sorry you are correct

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

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TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

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Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.

That was stupid, I'm not argueing that, but it wasn't as stupid as Fist-fighting the Pope IMHO.

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KOM_95 wrote...

@Carcharoth42 Sorry you are correct

No appologies, they are a sign of weakness...
And weakness attracts wolves.
And wolves bring quick time events.
And quick time events lead to the dark side.
Don't join the dark side.:bandit:







or else graves will show up before they're supposed to, holsters you haven't bought will be worn in loading screens and missions your recruits shouldn't be able to access will become accessable.

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

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TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

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Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.


Where does this even happen? The only time I remember the two of them drinking together was at the end...which is right before Connor finishes the job. Really, he spends the entire game obsessing over Lee, so I'm not sure what you're talking about with him not reacting to his presence.

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TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.

That was stupid, I'm not argueing that, but it wasn't as stupid as Fist-fighting the Pope IMHO.


Eh, the end game sequence in AC2 was altogether weak. Fistfighting aside, Ezio suddenly deciding to spare the Pope was probably the single biggest face palm moment of the series.

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Just to get this out of the way is there ever a way to upgrade the artisans? I'm in Sequence 7 and have done every Homestead mission available in the Frontier, Homestead, Boston, and New York and they're all still level 1.

Am I missing something or is this just another bug?

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.


I think he was just showing respect to the dead. Or the soon-to-be-dead. Sounds like something that any other Assassin would do, no matter how bad their target is.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 04 novembre 2012 - 02:27 .


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Capt. Obvious wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.


I think he was just showing respect to the dead. Or the soon-to-be-dead. Sounds like something that any other Assassin would do, no matter how bad their target is.


At that point I think Lee knew he was bonned. I'm pretty sure he was drinking to ease the pain and gave Connor the bottle so he could do the same. It's not like Lee was going anywhere so taking a drink wasn't going to hurt anything.

The ending on the other hand was horrible writting.

Modifié par plnero, 04 novembre 2012 - 02:35 .


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plnero wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.


I think he was just showing respect to the dead. Or the soon-to-be-dead. Sounds like something that any other Assassin would do, no matter how bad their target is.


At that point I think Lee knew he was bonned. I'm pretty sure he was drinking to ease the pain and gave Connor the bottle so he could do the same. It's not like Lee was going anywhere so taking a drink wasn't going to hurt anything.

The ending on the other hand was horrible writting.


I agree that it was a bad ending. But I think that even despite it, the game is still very good overall.

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LPPrince wrote...

Am I the only one that might spend an inordinate amount of time hunting?


WELL, THAT WAS A PREDICTION WELL MADE.

Been going after the Hunting Challenges, on to the 3rd set of challenges, and all I've got left is to hunt 4 more animals from horseback...

and to complete the hunting map(hunt every animal in every area of the game).

I KNEW IT, I FREAKING KNEW THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

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Foolsfolly wrote..

I think you're on to something there. As vastly superior Connor's plot is to Desmond's perhaps they shouldn't have told it. Perhaps the whole game should have been about Desmond doing something to stop the end of the world and not collect keys to open on door and press the I Die Button.


Agreed. To their credit, I do like the few Desmond sequences they included, but its overshadowed by filler content. From the point of the overarching story, it's mostly useless. Vidic says the same haflway through AC1, making a joke about "useless memories". 
 
Regardless of whether or not Brotherhood and Revelations were actually planned, the point of the latter game was for Desmond to finish with his ancestors and finally take on the role of an assassin, which he had continually set aside. I absolutely get how the developers (and many more fans) consider the animus and historical background to be the real appeal of Assassin's Creed. But then, maybe Revelations should not have taken that turn in the first place. The importance of Connor's role in the main storyline is to provide (yet another key), something which Ezio's apple already was being used as.

I think AC3 could/should have played it one of two ways: either no ancestor, given the events of Revelations, and the game focuses on Desmond actually finding a way to stop the end. Or potentially multiple ancestors in one game, each given fairly short sequences but still with increased emphasis on Desmond. It would also have been a great way to please fans wanting to see multiple locations in different time periods. But having the key to saving the world be simply hidden beyond a door, when every character is telling Desmond he needs to find a way himself, was just plain bad.

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Just got to Sequence 9(did a ton after Sequence 8) and man.

Sometimes Templars sound like they have the right idea. /Haytham Kenway

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LPPrince wrote...

Just got to Sequence 9(did a ton after Sequence 8) and man.

Sometimes Templars sound like they have the right idea. /Haytham Kenway


I feel like they make Templars ass holes so you want to hate them. They may have crude methods but they fight for order and peace which is something I can respect even if I don't agree with them. It's like their evil up until they get killed and then all of a sudden they justify their actions by saying they did it to save people or something.

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Just saying, Haytham has that likable quality about him, even when he's being an A.

Amazing character.

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 Anyone played AC3:Liberation, the companion  Vita game?

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Foolsfolly wrote...

Just to get this out of the way is there ever a way to upgrade the artisans? I'm in Sequence 7 and have done every Homestead mission available in the Frontier, Homestead, Boston, and New York and they're all still level 1.

Am I missing something or is this just another bug?


They are going to start levelling up from Seq.9.

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Just finished this here game. Here be my thoughts:






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LIKES

The Story - Unlike Ezio's tale, which was a straight up good vs evil, black and white battle the Assassins and the Templars, the story of Connor is morally grey in spades. Are the Templars really evil? Do the Assassin's do more harm than good in their fight? Even the struggle for American Independence is presented as a grey area as the victory of the Patriots over the British may not be a good thing for many reasons. This is a complex tale of moral ambiguity that the first Assassin's Creed tried to present but failed to do.

Connor (Ratohnhaké:ton) - I liked Connor. He may lack Ezio's rougish charm and leadership, but he more than makes up for it with his strong will and unwavering dedication to his cause. And he's no arrogant ahole like Altair, preferring to handle his affairs with a humble demeanor. But it's good that the game is not afraid to portray his strengths as negative qualities, as a number of his Templar targets point out. I hope we get to see other titles starring him.

Haytham - I'd just like to point out, the revelation behind Connor's father left me flabbergasted as much as anyone. Despite his Templar allegiances, Haytham actually turns out to be very likable. He's probably the only Templar we've had second thoughts about killing. 

The Frontier - My favorite area in the game. I'll admit that traversing it at first seemed daunting, but big kudos to Ubisoft for making it an area ideal for free running. While I think the Open West of Red Dead Redemption is still the better open world environment, the hunting minigame is better here.

Naval combat - Awesome. The best new addition to Assassin's Creed franchise. I'm amazed by how the captured the feel of ship to ship combat. Can we ask Sid Meier to make a new Pirates game with this engine? :D

Homestead - What Ezio's villa should have been. I also enjoy the people you invite to stay there to build a community. Their personal missions are great.

Improved Gameplay - Thank god free running is much better this time around. And the combat is a joy.


DISLIKES

Bugs Bugs Bugs - Ugh. I know open world games being prone to bugs is a given, but the ones in AC3 are particularly grating. Not enough to ruin the game, but c'mon Ubi, hurry up and fix them.

Desmond's story - Let me say it out loud, I thought the ending was lame. But it's not a dealbreaker like Mass Effect 3. After playing every Assassin's Creed game on consoles, I take such WTF conclusions as part of the series charm. Truth be told, I've never really cared for Desmond's story. So it's no biggie for me that he met such an end. But allow me to say that I take Ubi's word that he's dead with a grain of salt. I'm pretty sure Desmond will appear yet again in future AC titles.

Lack of historical cameos - In comparison to Ezio, Connor hardly hangs out with the famous people of his time. The only person he has extended interaction with is Samuel Adams. I wanted more scenes with George Washington or perhaps Benjamin Franklin.

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plnero wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.


I think he was just showing respect to the dead. Or the soon-to-be-dead. Sounds like something that any other Assassin would do, no matter how bad their target is.


At that point I think Lee knew he was bonned. I'm pretty sure he was drinking to ease the pain and gave Connor the bottle so he could do the same. It's not like Lee was going anywhere so taking a drink wasn't going to hurt anything.

The ending on the other hand was horrible writting.


Could've been poisned, BOOM lee just killed connor.
Although yes he would have killed himself but like you said he was dead anyways.

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Capt. Obvious wrote...

plnero wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

*spoilers in post*

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The story in this game is so bad, Connors and Desmonds, not even mentioning the ending.
Otherwise the game was really fun best AC IMO

It's not bad, just mediocre.


No it was bad

SPOILERS:




Have a drink with his main enemy, the guy who killed his mother and work with his master and see him numerous times without even threatning? awful writing.


I think he was just showing respect to the dead. Or the soon-to-be-dead. Sounds like something that any other Assassin would do, no matter how bad their target is.


At that point I think Lee knew he was bonned. I'm pretty sure he was drinking to ease the pain and gave Connor the bottle so he could do the same. It's not like Lee was going anywhere so taking a drink wasn't going to hurt anything.

The ending on the other hand was horrible writting.


I agree that it was a bad ending. But I think that even despite it, the game is still very good overall.


Yes I agree my fav. AC so far.

#424
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There's so much to do I don't even know WHAT TO DO.

I'll probably continue with the main quest but man there's stuff everywhere.

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Put in 23 hours so far done All storyline,homstead, captain kidd, fort and half of the liberation plus benedict arnold and frontiersman missions. Love the game. Best one yet but AC II and B are close.