Although I tend to support the Templars, I do nevertheless think it would be badass if mages regained domination of Thedas, ruled with an iron fist, freed the remaining Old Gods (before the darkspawn get them) and began worshipping them once again.
Pro Mage or Pro Templar
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#27
Posté 24 octobre 2012 - 11:20
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Bad King wrote...
Although I tend to support the Templars, I do nevertheless think it would be badass if mages regained domination of Thedas, ruled with an iron fist, freed the remaining Old Gods (before the darkspawn get them) and began worshipping them once again.
If the mage's goal will become dominating over non-mages, I'll gladly lead the Inquisition (if we'll lead it) to defeat them.
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Posté 24 octobre 2012 - 11:30
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hhh89 wrote...
I already asked someone else, would you be fine with an independent Circle system, freed from the Chantry, with an organization composed by both mages and non-mages with equal power to watch over them?
Like Thrask attempted to do? I thought it was an interesting idea, and my apostate Hawke would have sided with Thrask if the Plot didn't railroad Grace into losing her sanity because the Plot Dictates. I thought Thrask was a good man, and it's unfortunate he wasn't featured more in the game. Origins had plenty of good templars to illustrate that the Order consisted of good people who weren't sadists or monsters; Ser Bryant, the Lothering Templars, Ser Otto, and even Knight-Commander Greagoir. I disagreed with the Chantry controlled Circles even then, but it wasn't difficult to see that there were good people who believed in the system.
As for whether I would do the same in Inquisition, I don't play the same characters, so I can't say for certain. My Surana Warden and my apostate Hawke were dissimilar in a few ways, although playing as mage protagonists did put them in the pro-mage camp. My plans for my protagonists always end up changing with the actual game, so I honestly don't know how I might have my Inquisitor react to certain decisions. I was thinking about making him a blood mage (if the option is available, which seems to be the case), so he might be more militant than my Warden or my Champion were about mage autonomy. Things could easily change, though.
As for me, I've suggested in the past that there should be a law enforcement group that consists of mages and non-mages with templar-like abilities. Other people who disagree with the Chantry and the templars provided similar suggestions in the past as well (when providing alternatives to the Chantry controlled Circles).
#29
Posté 24 octobre 2012 - 11:38
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I'll probably side with mages for my first play through
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Posté 24 octobre 2012 - 11:39
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LobselVith8 wrote...
hhh89 wrote...
I already asked someone else, would you be fine with an independent Circle system, freed from the Chantry, with an organization composed by both mages and non-mages with equal power to watch over them?
Like Thrask attempted to do? I thought it was an interesting idea, and my apostate Hawke would have sided with Thrask if the Plot didn't railroad Grace into losing her sanity because the Plot Dictates. I thought Thrask was a good man, and it's unfortunate he wasn't featured more in the game. Origins had plenty of good templars to illustrate that the Order consisted of good people who weren't sadists or monsters; Ser Bryant, the Lothering Templars, Ser Otto, and even Knight-Commander Greagoir. I disagreed with the Chantry controlled Circles even then, but it wasn't difficult to see that there were good people who believed in the system.
As for whether I would do the same in Inquisition, I don't play the same characters, so I can't say for certain. My Surana Warden and my apostate Hawke were dissimilar in a few ways, although playing as mage protagonists did put them in the pro-mage camp. My plans for my protagonists always end up changing with the actual game, so I honestly don't know how I might have my Inquisitor react to certain decisions. I was thinking about making him a blood mage (if the option is available, which seems to be the case), so he might be more militant than my Warden or my Champion were about mage autonomy. Things could easily change, though.
As for me, I've suggested in the past that there should be a law enforcement group that consists of mages and non-mages with templar-like abilities. Other people who disagree with the Chantry and the templars provided similar suggestions in the past as well (when providing alternatives to the Chantry controlled Circles).
I'm just trying to know if the mages supporters will be fine with this kind of system. I don't have choose yet a side, because I haven't decided yet which model I prefer, one in which the mages have complete freedom, or a model similar to the Circle, with larger freedom and firm rules and punishments on the organization that has the role to watch over them. I though the latter model could've been supported only by pro-Chantry or some pro-templars followers (of course in this case that the Chantry is still involved with the Circle), and that the pro-mages were against it. You're the second pro-mage already that aren't against the model (in which the simil-Circle is indipendant from the Chantry), so I was wrong. I might open a post later to see people's reaction to this model
. Thanks for responding to the question.
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Posté 24 octobre 2012 - 11:58
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I'll be fighting for the mages. I got issues with the Circles but even more so with how they're seen and treated. I want to free them from the Chantry's iron fist but i don't want them to be entierly free either. Magic is dangerous and all it takes is one mad mage to cause irrepairable damage. So i suppose i'll fight to keep the templars from slaughtering mages until something better arise.
#32
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 12:00
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I'm a rogue. I take whichever side pays me more. :3
#33
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 12:00
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Pro peace.
Zealous templars and corrupted mages alike are the problem. The more one grows the more the other pushes back, exponentially swaying the balance of power until chaos tears the world apart. Pulling one person off the see-saw doesn't balance it, it just stops the swaying and leaves your ass flat in the dirt. I will stand with mages and templars alike to fight evil. The world is not black and white after all, not since we invented technicolor.
Zealous templars and corrupted mages alike are the problem. The more one grows the more the other pushes back, exponentially swaying the balance of power until chaos tears the world apart. Pulling one person off the see-saw doesn't balance it, it just stops the swaying and leaves your ass flat in the dirt. I will stand with mages and templars alike to fight evil. The world is not black and white after all, not since we invented technicolor.
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Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 12:03
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Uinen03 wrote...
I'm a rogue. I take whichever side pays me more. :3
Ugh, generic rogue.
#35
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 12:03
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Both factions are equally lame, I'm staying neutral.
#36
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 12:06
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I'm taking down the rogue Templars and trying to get more freedom for mages. Zero tolerance for maleficar though, blood mages will be put to the sword same as ever.
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Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 12:51
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Pro mage, at least in my first playthrough. I'm not a big fan of the Chantry and even less of a fan of the Templars.
#38
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 01:18
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Pro-Templar for my first game.
#39
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 01:20
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Pro Mages with Anders alive and as my love interest.
#40
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 01:54
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Pro Mage all the way.
I don't think every mage is out for power and I think people are wrong to assume that.
I don't think every mage is out for power and I think people are wrong to assume that.
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Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 01:57
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Do I have to pick a side? I want to be pro-everyone...
#42
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 02:01
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Icinix wrote...
Templar.
Mages showed at the end of DA2 they're hopelessly moronic - and I saved more mages siding with the Templars than I did with the Mages.
YOu mean Templars showed in the end they're hopelessly moronic. If you kick a shaggy dog enough, it'll bite and kick back. What, you think that Mages LIKE being prisoners? You honestly think that any mage backed into a corner and about to die would CARE what others thought of them turning to blood magic to survive? It's a damned if they do and damned if they don't. At least with blood magic they stand a chance to get away, Judgmental pricks like you be damned.
People may think Anders went a bit off the deep end with the zealotry.... but most didn't live their lives in the circle. He did. He saw the circles for what they were and made a stand. There was absolutely no way you could reform the circles without starting a war; the templars are far too entrenched in their thinking to 'allow' new ideas.
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#43
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 02:07
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Adanu wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Templar.
Mages showed at the end of DA2 they're hopelessly moronic - and I saved more mages siding with the Templars than I did with the Mages.
YOu mean Templars showed in the end they're hopelessly moronic. If you kick a shaggy dog enough, it'll bite and kick back. What, you think that Mages LIKE being prisoners? You honestly think that any mage backed into a corner and about to die would CARE what others thought of them turning to blood magic to survive? It's a damned if they do and damned if they don't. At least with blood magic they stand a chance to get away, Judgmental pricks like you be damned.
I really hope in DA3, the Chantry's lies are exposed and weakens their power
#44
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 02:19
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Depends on my class
Mage Hawke: Pro-templar (I find it ironic and extremely funny that the templars look up to my blood mage XD)
Warrior Hawke: Pro-templar
Rouge Hawke(My canon Hawke): Pro-mage
Mage Hawke: Pro-templar (I find it ironic and extremely funny that the templars look up to my blood mage XD)
Warrior Hawke: Pro-templar
Rouge Hawke(My canon Hawke): Pro-mage
#45
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 02:26
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I felt for the Mages till Orsino went full retard, HOWEVER not all of the Mages were insane like Orsino or evil like some blood mages and what the Templars under Meredith were doing was more oppressive.
Though Anders went to far I think, a bit...extreme.
However Mage Hawke: Pro-Mage
Rogue Hawke may be pro Templar or just not choose sides. and will probably do a warrior Hawke playthrough who sides with the Templars if Rogue hawke stays neutral.
Though Anders went to far I think, a bit...extreme.
However Mage Hawke: Pro-Mage
Rogue Hawke may be pro Templar or just not choose sides. and will probably do a warrior Hawke playthrough who sides with the Templars if Rogue hawke stays neutral.
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#46
Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 02:32
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Neither. Both sides are wrong and need to be stopped.
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Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 02:45
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I can never decide so I always play both ways. I guess you could say I'm a little bi-curious.
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Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 03:03
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Pics or it didn't happen.Trista Faux Hawke wrote...
I guess you could say I'm a little bi-curious.
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Posté 25 octobre 2012 - 03:03
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Adanu wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Templar.
Mages showed at the end of DA2 they're hopelessly moronic - and I saved more mages siding with the Templars than I did with the Mages.
YOu mean Templars showed in the end they're hopelessly moronic. If you kick a shaggy dog enough, it'll bite and kick back. What, you think that Mages LIKE being prisoners? You honestly think that any mage backed into a corner and about to die would CARE what others thought of them turning to blood magic to survive? It's a damned if they do and damned if they don't. At least with blood magic they stand a chance to get away, Judgmental pricks like you be damned.
People may think Anders went a bit off the deep end with the zealotry.... but most didn't live their lives in the circle. He did. He saw the circles for what they were and made a stand. There was absolutely no way you could reform the circles without starting a war; the templars are far too entrenched in their thinking to 'allow' new ideas.
Like me...or my character in the game?
In real life I could never support a group that tries to get their views across by doing the exact same thing people are concerned about them doing.
In game I could never support a group that turns to blood magic before my very eyes. Yes Templars are wrong - but so are the mages. There is no clear cut choice here. Which is why I metagamed my final decisive choice.
