Bronze extraction wave. 5 Scions.

#26
ZombieGambit

Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 02:32

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Scions are BS. No warning like the blue lasers of the Ravagers, their guns are almost silent, and they're bugged to do double the damage, so even with Cyclonic Modulators you get downed just as easily as without them.

Not to mention they have way more armor than Brutes and definitely more than Ravagers and they can get "possessed" and take even more damage and throw out cluster grenades ****ing everywhere. They don't even seem to have a cooldown for their attacks. I don't know how many times I've died from running from cluster grenades and immediately being mowed down by the Scion's gun. That's unfair.

And what's with the Praetorian shooting backwards through its own body and having that freaking bubble up that lasts for 10 minutes 90% of the time?

I hate the Collectors...

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#27
Mafia_Steve

Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 02:53

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Scions need to be nerfed a bit on bronze and silver. As a veteran player, I can handle them, but the newbs I see are struggling badly against them on bronze. If I started out on this game with a level 1 and low level common weapons, and I happened to get the Collectors for my first game, I'd never play MP again. Scions are still a three shot killer, which is pretty harsh on bronze. Their shots should either be at a slower rate of fire, or their shots should be as powerful as a Ravager's shot, which depletes most, but not all your shields. Bronze collectors are at a silver difficulty, IMO.

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#28
Mafia_Steve

Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 02:55

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ZombieGambit wrote...

Scions are BS. No warning like the blue lasers of the Ravagers, their guns are almost silent, and they're bugged to do double the damage, so even with Cyclonic Modulators you get downed just as easily as without them.

Not to mention they have way more armor than Brutes and definitely more than Ravagers and they can get "possessed" and take even more damage and throw out cluster grenades ****ing everywhere. They don't even seem to have a cooldown for their attacks. I don't know how many times I've died from running from cluster grenades and immediately being mowed down by the Scion's gun. That's unfair.

And what's with the Praetorian shooting backwards through its own body and having that freaking bubble up that lasts for 10 minutes 90% of the time?

I hate the Collectors...

I don't like them either. Scions are basically droneless Primes, and they spawn more often than primes. My solution:

Slower rate of attack
Ravager shot damage level
a small increase in armor to help rebalance them.

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#29
ParanoidDrone

Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:15

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ZombieGambit wrote...

Scions are BS. No warning like the blue lasers of the Ravagers, their guns are almost silent, and they're bugged to do double the damage, so even with Cyclonic Modulators you get downed just as easily as without them.

Not to mention they have way more armor than Brutes and definitely more than Ravagers and they can get "possessed" and take even more damage and throw out cluster grenades ****ing everywhere. They don't even seem to have a cooldown for their attacks. I don't know how many times I've died from running from cluster grenades and immediately being mowed down by the Scion's gun. That's unfair.

And what's with the Praetorian shooting backwards through its own body and having that freaking bubble up that lasts for 10 minutes 90% of the time?

I hate the Collectors...

I got my first taste of the awkward Praetorian lasers yesterday. It was the last enemy left and we had it surrounded, and it was firing at a teammate that was nowhere near me. Then without turning around, its next set of lasers came right for me. Caught me completely by surprise since it was still oriented towards my teammate.

The bubble shield is annoying, but like Phantoms and Banshees, I don't think it protects against bullets and instant cast powers like Reave.

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#30
hawgwild5757

Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:20

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Scions are absurd on Bronze. There's no way a Turian Sentinel, with Tech Armor and Fitness specced for durability, should lose all shields and be down to one bar of health in 3 shots. And even that wouldn't be all that bad except your shields don't recharge and here comes something else up your flank or it's a possessed Scion and he'll drop grenades on you. Silver is almost as bad, but at least some of the players are better able to deal with it.

I've asked this before, has anyone at Bioware played a bronze game against Collectors with random players on London and gotten a hack objective on wave 6 or 10? Seriously, they're just too powerful for bronze against randoms running Avengers and Katanas with no gear and no idea how to best play the game. Please tone it down.