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It's time to face it - the Turian Ghost is absurdly OP.


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darkpassenger2342

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i love the class but theres no denying he is is the king of the hill.

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Operator m1 wrote...

I've seen bad ghosts fail on gold. You're giving way too much credit to the kit's ability to carry someone.

Btw, a character being popular =/= a character being overpowered.

A character being overpowered can lead to a character being popular.

It's pretty much the 'square can be a rectangle, but a rectangle can't be a square' deal.


Exactly this is how I see it.

The old Turian Sentinel is in total damage output to armor+shields way more powerful than this lol-TutuGho

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Stardusk wrote...

The first recorded Collector Platinum Solo was done with a Ghost. That does say something.


Not alot.

-the player was good
-it is comparitively easier/more effecient

Different kits tend to have varying levels of difficulty handling certain things (see kroguard vs. geth for example)

Not exactly solid proof the kit is OP. Especially considering there's a volus platinum solo vid hanging around somewhere.

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I have a grenade capacity 5 and a Harrier, but I still don't find the Turian Ghost to be overly powerful. For one thing, you use up Stimpacks. And it is not as powerful as grenades to compare to other classes, you're still left with a rifle that does target to target damage, no area effect.

A demolisher is OP in my opinion, a biotic slashing N7 Slayer is OP, the Turian Ghost it takes work to work him to shine. Look at all these other classes, no aiming, little thinking required.

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its hardly the most played in my experience... just played 5 gold matches and i was the only TGI (pug PC lobbies). I normaly was 2nd (one 1st) on the ranking using either the harrier II or saber II. actually got beaten pretty badly by a QMI with a valient VI

what kind of adjustments you think the TGI will get?

stim pack nerf, 6 TC buff nerf? maybe both? honestly it would not break the class if they cut the stim shield/dmg boost in half or even the AR TC buff in half. Although a stm nerf would hurt other classes that use em.

frankly its my favorite class. Rockets, chain overload plus ARs on an infiltrator whats not to love? the shield/dmg boost from stims is just icing on the cake.

Modifié par CronisN7, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:19 .


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Operator m1 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

The first recorded Collector Platinum Solo was done with a Ghost. That does say something.


Not alot.

-the player was good
-it is comparitively easier/more effecient

Different kits tend to have varying levels of difficulty handling certain things (see kroguard vs. geth for example)

Not exactly solid proof the kit is OP. Especially considering there's a volus platinum solo vid hanging around somewhere.

I agree.
I think player Uh Cold soloed platinum with Volus,so BW should nerf Volus too.DnWil soloed plat with Drell Vanguard,who was amongs most underpowered characters(general BSN opinion).
Turian Ghost is very good,powerful character,but he is merely a puppet.When nerfers cry for nerf,they forget that fact.

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Keep your filthy hands from Infiltrator class in GENERAL, especially Turian Infiltrator.

Fu*king 'mommy nerf this, mommy nerf that' whiner - RUIN of every game.

Pathetic.

Disgusting.

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I would say, people playing well with a GI would outscore the ArmTuGhost all the time.

But a GI is a glassbuild? Yes, but he can see any danger coming and practically shoot it before he gets even hit, also don´t underestimate a proxymine damage+debuff in comparison to simple weapon fire+overload from a TGI.

Also Infiltrators is the last thing I play, the GI is some fun, but for me the HM is too annoying for my eyes.

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Just did a gold run with randoms. I was using vorcha soldier and got top. There were two ghosts in my lobby one of them got 2nd and the other got last, 3rd was a paladin. Ghosts aren't that OP it all depends on the player.

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Having higher damage than a GI AND the ability to have 4000 H/S is slightly ridiculous, still not as ridiculous as the demolisher.

Modifié par Xaijin, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:26 .


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Andreadg89 wrote...

Nerf all things and nobody will play this game anymore. Even I am getting tired to see good kits ruined because people complain and complain and complain. And please, tell me how you want it nerfed? Do you want TC nerfed again so every infiltrator become total trash? Tell us your ideas instead of creating "nerf this, nerf that, it's OP" threads; tell us something useful please at least.


He can't. He'll bit*h & moan here on BSN 24/7.

It's something he does. 

He is wily provocateur. 

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Xaijin wrote...

Having higher damage than a GI AND the ability to have 4000 H/S is slightly ridiculous, still not as ridiculous as the demolisher.


Out of curiousity, what was your beef with the demolisher?

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Operator m1 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

Having higher damage than a GI AND the ability to have 4000 H/S is slightly ridiculous, still not as ridiculous as the demolisher.


Out of curiousity, what was your beef with the demolisher?


I don't know why I would have a beef with a character that can camp in a corner of a platinum map and throw out 3000 AoE DPS that also affects any damage type and auto primes or tech explodes automatically with no cooldown, and can carry two weapons with no penalty. Nothing wrong there.

Modifié par Xaijin, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:38 .


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yea demolisher is pretty OP... i toped the scores any time i played with it and thats playing with people who would out score me on any other class. even post  nerf its a strong class.

Modifié par CronisN7, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:38 .


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BlackDahlia424 wrote...

heroicmass wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

heroicmass wrote...

Sorry about killing everything in that game.


Yes, you were the guy I played with. I have seen at least 5 other games in the past 2 days with this build. I also have a Harrier X - I have seen what it does. I literally feel like I'm cheating using it.


A level X UR with consumables in the hands of a capable player will make gold look easy. I have played way too much of this game and have been speed running for months.  The ability to know spawn points and rush them is very helpful too.  Sorry if the game pissed you off.


It wasn't the 1 game. It's been almost every gold game I've played the last few days. I feel like if I don't play as the TGI, I can't kill anything fast enough to keep up with the nearly 4,000 spike DPS. It's annoying because the game is fun when I get to kill stuff - assists leave you without the satisfaction of killing stuff. I feel I can't play as a biotic class because they simply kill things slower. And if I'm playing with these absurd DPS classes, every enemy I try to combo gets killed before I can finish them. An entire game of killing nothing is frustrating.


Nah, you're probably just terrible with TGI, because here you're pathetically whining & yet you have Harrier Mark 10.

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Smo wrote "theres no denying he is is the king of the hill".

God, if smo joins with a ghost, and i join with the asari vanguard. I bet 1.000 €, that I outscore the ghost just with using nades, charge and the acolyte.

She is one of the most underestimanted chars in the game.

Modifié par Impius, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:40 .


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Xaijin wrote...

Operator m1 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

Having higher damage than a GI AND the ability to have 4000 H/S is slightly ridiculous, still not as ridiculous as the demolisher.


Out of curiousity, what was your beef with the demolisher?


I don't know why I would have a beef with a character that can camp in a corner of a platinum map and throw out 3000 AOE DPS that also affects any damage type and auto primes or tech explodes automatically with no cooldown, and can carry two weapons with no penalty. Nothing wrong there.


Honestly, I expected that answer.

Hell, I mentioned a few times that grenade spammers put the TGI to shame because of that safe AoE dps. :whistle:

I guess I cant complain when they're doing the hack on the london balcony, while I stay on the ground as a distraction while they make it rain 'nades. I just sit back and enjoy the show as my TGI. :police:

Modifié par Operator m1, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:41 .


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I still can´t get it. Did we get PVP Mode in Me3 or why do some people complain about opness of classes that they also have? Ridicilous...

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Nartkan wrote...

I still can´t get it. Did we get PVP Mode in Me3 or why do some people complain about opness of classes that they also have? Ridicilous...


Some people just can't stand not having top scores again. Their virtual wiener decreases - actio et reactio, this problem must be obliterated.

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Certainly took long enough for this thread to happen. 

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Impius wrote...

Smo wrote "theres no denying he is is the king of the hill".

God, if smo joins with a ghost, and i join with the asari vanguard. I bet 1.000 €, that I outscore the ghost just with using nades, charge and the acolyte.

She is one of the most underestimanted chars in the game.


she is one my favorite characters, so believe me i didnt forget :).

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 25 octobre 2012 - 08:02 .


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Cyonan wrote...

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He is the easiest because you can refresh shieldgate and get bonus shields AT WILL, then simply refill ammo.


Actually, you can't refresh your shield gate at will.

It has a cooldown and even if you use a stimpack after hitting shield gate enemies can shoot through to your hp while it's still on cooldown.


Please tell me how long it is, because I certainly didn't notice it in game.

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GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

Nartkan wrote...

I still can´t get it. Did we get PVP Mode in Me3 or why do some people complain about opness of classes that they also have? Ridicilous...


Some people just can't stand not having top scores again. Their virtual wiener decreases - actio et reactio, this problem must be obliterated.


LOL i dont care about top scores i have an awesome team behind me and having my fun anyways, regardless of whether i have top score or just finish the match.

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A class is only as good as the player is. Those players are probably good players (judging off harrier X, that's a really long time, so I expect them to be good at the game).

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gravitygroove wrote...

Uh OP, you do realize the harrier is an ULTRARARE right? A harrier x is SUPPOSE to rock asses, in ANY classes hands.

idiot.


+10 :D