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[Optimisticalman]

Tankcommander wrote...

Stimpacks do make soloing easy mode....but I think everyone just plays him cause he is stinking fun. I score better with other classes, but die never with him because stimpacks are boss

Everyone plays with him because he's the best character in the game.

[HeroicMass]

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

heroicmass wrote...

Sorry about killing everything in that game.

Yeah, me too.

omg heroic what have we done? lol

Except that Brute... OH CRAP! A BRUTE!

Those things are dangerous.  Relix really hates those guys.  Good thing my Harrier X was there to save him.

[corporal doody]

no more than the GI

[Atheosis]

His damage output is ridiculous, but it's his absurd durability that puts him over the top. I expect his stimpacks to be nerfed before anything else.

[King Amazing]

I've played against a couple Turian Ghosts on silver with my Vorcha Soldier. I don't know how high they scored but it's usually >5k points behind me. Not overpowered at all.

[Malanek]

Atheosis wrote...

His damage output is ridiculous, but it's his absurd durability that puts him over the top. I expect his stimpacks to be nerfed before anything else.

The Havoc soldier sort of depends on them so not so sure about that.

[Aanorith]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

First off, I am almost NEVER in favor of player-side nerfs.

That being said, all you ever see in Gold matches anymore is Turian Ghosts with Harriers, and a ton of them have a Harrier X. Playing as any other class/setup is literally resigning yourself to be an assist machine while they kill Gold Banshees in under 5 seconds. The rate at which they kill things is completely unmatched. It makes the pre-nerf Pirahna GI look weak in comparison. And unlike the GI, it isn't squishy with a passive that takes a huge chunk of shields. In fact, it has a power that instantly regens their shields and gives them a massive shield bonus as well.

What are you gonna nerf on it? What would you suggest? Just wondering.
Personally, I use my black widow on him. Not a big fan of ARs.

[mrs_anomaly]

 Please- just no more nerfing 



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[E_rik]

Okay, seriously, this is bothering me so much; how do you people have level 10 Harriers? Christ...

[Optimisticalman]

A bump for the truth and for the hypocrites that oppose a nerf to ghost turian.

[Geek]

Had nothing to do with the class and everything to do with playing with Heroic Mass and Relix.

Would have happened with any class.

[SlimJim0725]

rymoulton wrote...

Had nothing to do with the class and everything to do with playing with Heroic Mass and Relix.

Would have happened with any class.

Truth.

[ZoM_Head]

OP is pissed since he either does not have both or one of them.

Just fine if you ask me, Turians have great weapon stability and weapon damage bonuses.

Heck, i use my Tsoldier with a locust on Gold and people vote kick me in the lobby since i ended up dramatically in the top. You still need skill to aim for the head, especially when they are moving about and dancing (phantoms).

[ZoM_Head]

E_rik wrote...

Okay, seriously, this is bothering me so much; how do you people have level 10 Harriers? Christ...

Got the harrier when i was N7 3,000 and 200 rank players had it on IV+

Only when i hit rank 6,000+ it started to get maxed out.

I have nearly 1,000 hours in it, one of my friends has it at X and he has 400 hours of game play.

Do i think it is fair? i spent more than double the time and yet he got it before me and maxed it out before me.

[jandrewcepticon]

NO! NO! NO!

I personally use my PPR on him.

[RoZh2400]

I outscore TGI w/ Harrier I-X all the time. Your argument is invalid and you're doing it wrong.

[mrs_anomaly]

Andreadg89 wrote...

The fact is that behind the character maybe there's a capable player. Lots of people tend to forget that and claims for nerfs as soon as they are outscored.

This is totally true. Have I seen a lot of Turian Ghosts around Gold and Platinum lately, YES. (that's the way it is with any brand new class anyway) But they are not all equal- if you play with a truly gifted ME3 player they will be able to turn any class into something epic in terms of sheer amount of killing. 

As a Human Adept I've outscored quite a few Turian Ghosts in Gold PUGS- with my Tempest X. This tells me that not everyone running around with a TG is going to be able to outscore biotics. I play my Adept damned well- but all things being equal if I were pitted against an elite player running a TG I will get outscored. Biotics are just slower. Anyway it has a lot to do with player skill as much as it does the classes and weapon levels and loadouts. 

[Davorulez01]

Leave the Turian Ghost and Cerberus harrier alone

Quit complaining and let bioware do their job, if bioware believes the "things" need nerfs and buffs who am I to question it?

Nerf the SH*T out of the Turian Ghost as well as the Cerberus harrier



See what I did there?   

Modifié par Davorulez01, 25 octobre 2012 - 02:03 .

[DeathScepter]

mrs_anomaly wrote...

 Please- just no more nerfing 



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[Bendigoe]

I accept the eventual nerf, but what I genuinely want to know is what aspects of the TGI they are capable of nerfing.
Stim-packs are obvious here, but even if these get nerfed what could they do to a stim-pack to make it less effective?
Tactical cloak is a no-go due to other classes sharing the ability.
Oh, and with the Harrier being predominantly used for this character will it get a nerf as well?

Genuinely I want to know what they could do to the guy 

Modifié par Bendigoe, 25 octobre 2012 - 02:01 .

[Optimisticalman]

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Andreadg89 wrote...

The fact is that behind the character maybe there's a capable player. Lots of people tend to forget that and claims for nerfs as soon as they are outscored.

This is totally true. Have I seen a lot of Turian Ghosts around Gold and Platinum lately, YES. (that's the way it is with any brand new class anyway) But they are not all equal- if you play with a truly gifted ME3 player they will be able to turn any class into something epic in terms of sheer amount of killing. 

As a Human Adept I've outscored quite a few Turian Ghosts in Gold PUGS- with my Tempest X. This tells me that not everyone running around with a TG is going to be able to outscore biotics. I play my Adept damned well- but all things being equal if I were pitted against an elite player running a TG I will get outscored. Biotics are just slower. Anyway it has a lot to do with player skill as much as it does the classes and weapon levels and loadouts. 

You're either lying or in denial. There is no way in hell you outscored a turian ghost with that build. I refuse to even believe it without proof. That doesn't even sound realistic. The dps difference is hilariously arguing against you. I'm not usually the one for assuming but i am pretty sure i'm safe in this matter.

And once again, just because a class is new doesn't give him the right to be broken. Let me ask you this, how many times did you see krogan shaman lately?

Modifié par Optimisticalman, 25 octobre 2012 - 02:02 .

[Giantdeathrobot]

First off, every class in the game owns faces with a Harrier X and consumables.

Second, yes he's damn powerful. Good damage (not as much as GI), good mobility (not as good as Drell, N7 Slayer or classes with roll), good survivability (not as much as Krogans and Batarians), he's just good at everything without any significan drawback.

But (and that's a big but) he's fun to play. He's relatively unique as an infiltrator specced for ARs. He also takes some skill, as his dodge is only really useful in open spaces. Plus, turian with cloak and a jetpack. He's pure, concentrated awesome.

Maybe a small survivability nerf, either to his fitness tree or to Stims (but only his own stims! Nerf tha Havoc's and the class will be gimped). But no nerfbat. He's an infiltrator, he's supposed to be deadly with weapons coming out of cloak. Don't nerf his DPS.

[Elementlordofmilk]

 If it is OP(Don't have one myself)then if they do decide to nerf it, for the love of god, nerf the class and not the Harrier, it's not it's fault.

Don't touch my beloved Harrier.

[Happy Shepard]

So an Infiltrator with a Harrier X is OP on Gold?

Noted.

[mrs_anomaly]

Optimisticalman wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Andreadg89 wrote...

The fact is that behind the character maybe there's a capable player. Lots of people tend to forget that and claims for nerfs as soon as they are outscored.

This is totally true. Have I seen a lot of Turian Ghosts around Gold and Platinum lately, YES. (that's the way it is with any brand new class anyway) But they are not all equal- if you play with a truly gifted ME3 player they will be able to turn any class into something epic in terms of sheer amount of killing. 

As a Human Adept I've outscored quite a few Turian Ghosts in Gold PUGS- with my Tempest X. This tells me that not everyone running around with a TG is going to be able to outscore biotics. I play my Adept damned well- but all things being equal if I were pitted against an elite player running a TG I will get outscored. Biotics are just slower. Anyway it has a lot to do with player skill as much as it does the classes and weapon levels and loadouts. 

You're either lying or in denial. There is no way in hell you outscored a turian ghost with that build. I refuse to even believe it without proof. That doesn't even sound realistic. The dps difference is hilariously arguing against you. I'm not usually the one for assuming but i am pretty sure i'm safe in this matter.

And once again, just because a class is new doesn't give him the right to be broken. Let me ask you this, how many times did you see krogan shaman lately?

I'm neither lying nor in denial- some people out there are truly sucky playing it LOL. Anyway one thing that I cannot recall is precisely if the Harriers were at X- most of the Harriers I see tend to be IV-VI. Just because a class can put out super high DPS doesn't mean that each wielder of that class will be in any way effective. Also re: Krogan Shamans- I don't see as many of those as I do the TG's. I don't think a class should be "broken" but I don't think the TG is. I have one- and I have never used it and I don't even know when I'll break out with it. Anyhow I can regularly score 100 K plus with my Human Adept in Gold. I do it regularly. 

May I ask why you bring up the Krogan Shaman? I presumed they're not as commonly seen because the majority of people were underwhelmed by its skills.