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[Gantradies Dracos]

for gods sakes people, this isnt Battlefield. you really have no viable reason for demanding something be nerfed other then butthurt over someone performing better then you. no PVP, not other humans shooting at you. and what is it with silver and bronze players throwing a tantrum whenever someone does better then them?

[volcanicthor]

I've out scored many Turian ghosts using my Volus adept, and my Volus adept is spec'd for shield boosting team mates, not damage.

So clearly the Volus adept needs a nerf.

[Optimisticalman]

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Optimisticalman wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Andreadg89 wrote...

The fact is that behind the character maybe there's a capable player. Lots of people tend to forget that and claims for nerfs as soon as they are outscored.

This is totally true. Have I seen a lot of Turian Ghosts around Gold and Platinum lately, YES. (that's the way it is with any brand new class anyway) But they are not all equal- if you play with a truly gifted ME3 player they will be able to turn any class into something epic in terms of sheer amount of killing. 

As a Human Adept I've outscored quite a few Turian Ghosts in Gold PUGS- with my Tempest X. This tells me that not everyone running around with a TG is going to be able to outscore biotics. I play my Adept damned well- but all things being equal if I were pitted against an elite player running a TG I will get outscored. Biotics are just slower. Anyway it has a lot to do with player skill as much as it does the classes and weapon levels and loadouts. 

You're either lying or in denial. There is no way in hell you outscored a turian ghost with that build. I refuse to even believe it without proof. That doesn't even sound realistic. The dps difference is hilariously arguing against you. I'm not usually the one for assuming but i am pretty sure i'm safe in this matter.

And once again, just because a class is new doesn't give him the right to be broken. Let me ask you this, how many times did you see krogan shaman lately?

I'm neither lying nor in denial- some people out there are truly sucky playing it LOL. Anyway one thing that I cannot recall is precisely if the Harriers were at X- most of the Harriers I see tend to be IV-VI. Just because a class can put out super high DPS doesn't mean that each wielder of that class will be in any way effective. Also re: Krogan Shamans- I don't see as many of those as I do the TG's. I don't think a class should be "broken" but I don't think the TG is. I have one- and I have never used it and I don't even know when I'll break out with it. Anyhow I can regularly score 100 K plus with my Human Adept in Gold. I do it regularly. 

May I ask why you bring up the Krogan Shaman? I presumed they're not as commonly seen because the majority of people were underwhelmed by its skills. 

In your arguement, you said the turian ghost is being used so much because he is new. The krogan shaman is even more so and you never see him why? That's why i brought krogan shaman up.

You haven't played turian ghost with the cerberus harrier setup much as you stated, so you wouldn't know if he is broken or not by personal experience. But he is, he is most definitely broken.

[Syrus101]

there is already a big discussion going on about this in another post =P

[mrs_anomaly]

Optimisticalman wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Optimisticalman wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Andreadg89 wrote...

The fact is that behind the character maybe there's a capable player. Lots of people tend to forget that and claims for nerfs as soon as they are outscored.

This is totally true. Have I seen a lot of Turian Ghosts around Gold and Platinum lately, YES. (that's the way it is with any brand new class anyway) But they are not all equal- if you play with a truly gifted ME3 player they will be able to turn any class into something epic in terms of sheer amount of killing. 

As a Human Adept I've outscored quite a few Turian Ghosts in Gold PUGS- with my Tempest X. This tells me that not everyone running around with a TG is going to be able to outscore biotics. I play my Adept damned well- but all things being equal if I were pitted against an elite player running a TG I will get outscored. Biotics are just slower. Anyway it has a lot to do with player skill as much as it does the classes and weapon levels and loadouts. 

You're either lying or in denial. There is no way in hell you outscored a turian ghost with that build. I refuse to even believe it without proof. That doesn't even sound realistic. The dps difference is hilariously arguing against you. I'm not usually the one for assuming but i am pretty sure i'm safe in this matter.

And once again, just because a class is new doesn't give him the right to be broken. Let me ask you this, how many times did you see krogan shaman lately?

I'm neither lying nor in denial- some people out there are truly sucky playing it LOL. Anyway one thing that I cannot recall is precisely if the Harriers were at X- most of the Harriers I see tend to be IV-VI. Just because a class can put out super high DPS doesn't mean that each wielder of that class will be in any way effective. Also re: Krogan Shamans- I don't see as many of those as I do the TG's. I don't think a class should be "broken" but I don't think the TG is. I have one- and I have never used it and I don't even know when I'll break out with it. Anyhow I can regularly score 100 K plus with my Human Adept in Gold. I do it regularly. 

May I ask why you bring up the Krogan Shaman? I presumed they're not as commonly seen because the majority of people were underwhelmed by its skills. 

In your arguement, you said the turian ghost is being used so much because he is new. The krogan shaman is even more so and you never see him why? That's why i brought krogan shaman up.

You haven't played turian ghost with the cerberus harrier setup much as you stated, so you wouldn't know if he is broken or not by personal experience. But he is, he is most definitely broken.

So he's being used a lot = OP automatically?! Perhaps the Shaman was just unappealing compared to jet pack evasions? I don't need to play it to make observations- I've seen a lot of people playing it. Very few were truly kicking ass with it. It has that potential but the player determines final results. 
I can agree to disagree on this- I don't agree with you. 

[Gamemako]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Everyone is clearly in denial.

Hilariously so. I tihnk BioWare has the data on plat solos which will make this horrendously obvious. The problem is not whether but how how to nerf him.

[Wolfsbladex]

Sorry dude. No one's gettin nerfed.

http://social.biowar.../index/14656190

Read the Dev's post on pg. 1.

[Drayce333]

Wolfsbladex wrote...

Sorry dude. No one's gettin nerfed.

http://social.biowar.../index/14656190

Read the Dev's post on pg. 1.

Thats what they said about the piranha, and the geth infiltrator.

[Optimisticalman]

Wolfsbladex wrote...

Sorry dude. No one's gettin nerfed.

http://social.biowar.../index/14656190

Read the Dev's post on pg. 1.

His comment relates to nothing of whether they are going to nerf or not. So yes, ghost is getting nerfed.

[Optimisticalman]

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Optimisticalman wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Optimisticalman wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Andreadg89 wrote...

The fact is that behind the character maybe there's a capable player. Lots of people tend to forget that and claims for nerfs as soon as they are outscored.

This is totally true. Have I seen a lot of Turian Ghosts around Gold and Platinum lately, YES. (that's the way it is with any brand new class anyway) But they are not all equal- if you play with a truly gifted ME3 player they will be able to turn any class into something epic in terms of sheer amount of killing. 

As a Human Adept I've outscored quite a few Turian Ghosts in Gold PUGS- with my Tempest X. This tells me that not everyone running around with a TG is going to be able to outscore biotics. I play my Adept damned well- but all things being equal if I were pitted against an elite player running a TG I will get outscored. Biotics are just slower. Anyway it has a lot to do with player skill as much as it does the classes and weapon levels and loadouts. 

You're either lying or in denial. There is no way in hell you outscored a turian ghost with that build. I refuse to even believe it without proof. That doesn't even sound realistic. The dps difference is hilariously arguing against you. I'm not usually the one for assuming but i am pretty sure i'm safe in this matter.

And once again, just because a class is new doesn't give him the right to be broken. Let me ask you this, how many times did you see krogan shaman lately?

I'm neither lying nor in denial- some people out there are truly sucky playing it LOL. Anyway one thing that I cannot recall is precisely if the Harriers were at X- most of the Harriers I see tend to be IV-VI. Just because a class can put out super high DPS doesn't mean that each wielder of that class will be in any way effective. Also re: Krogan Shamans- I don't see as many of those as I do the TG's. I don't think a class should be "broken" but I don't think the TG is. I have one- and I have never used it and I don't even know when I'll break out with it. Anyhow I can regularly score 100 K plus with my Human Adept in Gold. I do it regularly. 

May I ask why you bring up the Krogan Shaman? I presumed they're not as commonly seen because the majority of people were underwhelmed by its skills. 

In your arguement, you said the turian ghost is being used so much because he is new. The krogan shaman is even more so and you never see him why? That's why i brought krogan shaman up.

You haven't played turian ghost with the cerberus harrier setup much as you stated, so you wouldn't know if he is broken or not by personal experience. But he is, he is most definitely broken.

So he's being used a lot = OP automatically?! Perhaps the Shaman was just unappealing compared to jet pack evasions? I don't need to play it to make observations- I've seen a lot of people playing it. Very few were truly kicking ass with it. It has that potential but the player determines final results. 
I can agree to disagree on this- I don't agree with you. 

Well said and i'll leave on that. I also agree to disagree. May you have a wonderful day.

[cdzander]

Aveus wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

He's not, it's mostly idiots exploiting bugs with the guy.

Which isn't his fault.

No it isn't, when you can kill a gold Atlas with a single clip of a Harrier whilst having more survivability than pretty much any class in the game something is off....

I used my TGI with a Harrier I vs Gold Cerb earlier today. With Warfighter gear V.  Shooting at an atlas,  I used all 100 bullets in that gun and it still wasn't dead.  You are either massively overexagerating or the Harrier X is just so much better than the I. Which it should be. But then it's the gun, not the class.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Dudes, Stimpacks = Ops packs. Use grenade capacity on them and use thermal clips. Even if you NEVER go to an ammo box that's 42 stimpacks, each capable of doing everything an ops pack does and more.

How is that not OP?

[chubby warhead]

all of my no.

[Crimson Vanguard]

cdzander wrote...

Aveus wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

He's not, it's mostly idiots exploiting bugs with the guy.

Which isn't his fault.

No it isn't, when you can kill a gold Atlas with a single clip of a Harrier whilst having more survivability than pretty much any class in the game something is off....

I used my TGI with a Harrier I vs Gold Cerb earlier today. With Warfighter gear V.  Shooting at an atlas,  I used all 100 bullets in that gun and it still wasn't dead.  You are either massively overexagerating or the Harrier X is just so much better than the I. Which it should be. But then it's the gun, not the class.

Ammo Power. AP IV shred Atlas into pieces, Warp + AP mod shred the universe a new hole. You probably forgot to put AP mod on your Harrier

[Immortal Strife]

The Turian Ghost is likely to be nerfed at some point but I would not expect it to be soon because he is a retaliation character.

[AnathamaDye]

Guess I better start enjoying him now........

[ill_eyggro]

I use It with the saber and do the same damage than any infiltrator with a sniper rifle AND HAVE A LOT OF FUN... And how do you ask for an ultra arte nerf? GSYOD

[DNC Protoman]

Stim packs are gonna get nerfed. Period.

[Optimisticalman]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Stim packs are gonna get nerfed. Period.

Yes, just hopefully soon. Very very soon.

[Dracian]

If Turian Ghost is OP, then it's time to buff the other infiltrators... Maybe by de-nerfing original TC ?

[rtbh99]

death to the harrier

death to the ghost

[BlackDahlia424]

Ok, I think I would point out that there are many builds with the Ghost that are fine. It's mostly the Ghost+Harrier combo that is OP. But how to decrease the effectiveness of 1 build is very tough.

[Knockingbr4in]

PPR is beast.

[smith056]

So, if having stim packs is overpowered, are we going to nerf the Volus too? I mean, whoever they follow, pretty much becomes invincible...soooo....

How about we just nerf every character until they do one damage to every thing? Then, we'll really see who the better players are <--Sarcasm.

[panda5onix]

He may be very strong in gold but he's not so OP against collectors platinum from my experience.