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(Poll) Your Opinion of Synthesis - Building a Consensus


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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

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It's not salvation for the Geth or any other synthetic lifeform.

Sucks to be them, then.

Renegade +5

Just 5?

Well, my Shepard ended up with about a 3:2 Paragon'/Renegade ratio, so take that as you will.

That's before doing the final choice though.

Oh, of course. I'd already killed the geth though (which I don't think gave me any Renegade points, actually).

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clennon8 wrote...

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Haha. The ending that Bioware clearly considers the best ending is disliked/hated by 80% of the players.


60% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Sure, sure.  Don't kid yourself.  The vast majority of people think Synthesis is crap.

Again, what is the basis for your hypothesis?

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My basis is that practically everybody hates Synthesis. Don't even try to deny it.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Haha. The ending that Bioware clearly considers the best ending is disliked/hated by 80% of the players.

And what basis are your statistics formed?

The poll this very thread links to?

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inb4 "vocal minority"

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Haha. The ending that Bioware clearly considers the best ending is disliked/hated by 80% of the players.

And what basis are your statistics formed?

The poll this very thread links to?

A hundred or so people on BSN hardly constitute an accurate assesssment of all players opinions on the endings.

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clennon8 wrote...

inb4 "vocal minority"


In after arrogance. 

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bam

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Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Modifié par clennon8, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:17 .


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clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in yours and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!


Now I'm not reading your lame fanfic. I had it open in the other tab and everything. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:14 .


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Oh noes.

Besides, you're probably lying and reading it anyway.

Modifié par clennon8, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:15 .


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clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in yours and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Again, prove it to me by polling every single gamer who finished the game before claiming that it's so.

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Oh noes.

Besides, you're probably lying and reading it anyway.


Nah, I saw the word Hollow and decided I didn't need to read any melodrama tonight .

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in yours and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Again, prove it to me by polling every single gamer who finished the game before claiming that it's so.

Lol.  Do you really think that's how it works?  You have to poll every single person in a demographic in order to get a clear picture?

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clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in yours and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!


Now I'm not reading your lame fanfic. I had it open in the other tab and everything. 

The sweet smell of desperation.

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Eterna5 wrote...

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Oh noes.

Besides, you're probably lying and reading it anyway.


Nah, I saw the word Hollow and decided I didn't need to read any melodrama tonight .

Probably for the best.  You'd like it, and then be like "Crap, I liked his story, but he's a jerk, so now I have to pretend I didn't."

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clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!


And you destroyers act like a kids who care too much about other people's choices. DESTROY IS THE ONLY ENDING YOU IDIOTS, CHOOSE IT NOW, SYNTHESIS SUX

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clennon8 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in yours and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Again, prove it to me by polling every single gamer who finished the game before claiming that it's so.

Lol.  Do you really think that's how it works?  You have to poll every single person in a demographic in order to get a clear picture?

To get the clearest picture, yes. Also, how is a couple hundred people on BSN a clear representation of ME3 players?

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I'm not telling anyone what to choose. Just pointing out that very, very few people like Bioware's "best" ending.

Let me tell you how I feel, though.  This might give you an idea why many of us "destroyers" are bitter.

As a destroyer, I feel like I have the following two options:

1) Join the cult of IT, where you get to pick destroy and say "I win," but you have to deal with hordes of people pointing at you and laughing, because, you know, you're in a cult.
2) Take the literalist stance, accepting the abandonment and sudden reversal of themes as "art," where Destroy becomes the red-headed stepchild of the other two choices, picked only by shallow people and aggro jerks.

Not. Very. Satisfying.

Modifié par clennon8, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:40 .


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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in yours and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Again, prove it to me by polling every single gamer who finished the game before claiming that it's so.

Lol.  Do you really think that's how it works?  You have to poll every single person in a demographic in order to get a clear picture?

To get the clearest picture, yes. Also, how is a couple hundred people on BSN a clear representation of ME3 players?


Go learn something about math and statistics, and then maybe we can talk.  Except then we wouldn't need to.

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Yeah, Destroy isn't all that great either; though it's certainly better than becoming the next Saren. Think about it. What was the one biggest chance for peace between organic and synthetic life? The living example of two peoples who had done just that. Destroy the Geth and you not only murdered that entire race, you just got rid of the one example of peace and co-operation you had. Starboy wins again, because he just 'proved' that getting along was impossible.

Anyway, so far as I'm concerned, all three colors are cr*p, with green being by far the worst. (There's a reason my chosen ending is Marauder Shields/headcanon.) At the very least, you just brainwashed the galaxy. At the worst, you just handed everyone over to the Reapers. Do you remember this quote? "The relationship is symbiotic, organic and machine intertwined, a union of flesh and steel. The strength of both, the weaknesses of neither. I am a vision of the future, Shepard, the evolution of all organic life. This is our destiny. Join Sovereign, and experience a true rebirth." Saren Arterius. Shepard called him out for Synthesis. 'Listen to yourself! Sovereign's controlling you, you're Indoctrinated! The Reapers are LYING to you!' ...and we are supposed to believe Star-kid when he spouts the exact same cr*p to us? Never!

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clennon8 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Synthesis is garbage, and the vast majority of people who have finished the game say so. Trying to act like this isn't true is like sticking your fingers in yours and yelling LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Again, prove it to me by polling every single gamer who finished the game before claiming that it's so.

Lol.  Do you really think that's how it works?  You have to poll every single person in a demographic in order to get a clear picture?

To get the clearest picture, yes. Also, how is a couple hundred people on BSN a clear representation of ME3 players?


Go learn something about math and statistics, and then maybe we can talk.  Except then we wouldn't need to.

If you poll 100% of a group, you will know with 100% certainty what that group thinks. Are you really insulting people who disagree with your assumptions now? 

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Reth Shepherd wrote...

Yeah, Destroy isn't all that great either; though it's certainly better than becoming the next Saren. Think about it. What was the one biggest chance for peace between organic and synthetic life? The living example of two peoples who had done just that. Destroy the Geth and you not only murdered that entire race, you just got rid of the one example of peace and co-operation you had. Starboy wins again, because he just 'proved' that getting along was impossible.

Anyway, so far as I'm concerned, all three colors are cr*p, with green being by far the worst. (There's a reason my chosen ending is Marauder Shields/headcanon.) At the very least, you just brainwashed the galaxy. At the worst, you just handed everyone over to the Reapers. Do you remember this quote? "The relationship is symbiotic, organic and machine intertwined, a union of flesh and steel. The strength of both, the weaknesses of neither. I am a vision of the future, Shepard, the evolution of all organic life. This is our destiny. Join Sovereign, and experience a true rebirth." Saren Arterius. Shepard called him out for Synthesis. 'Listen to yourself! Sovereign's controlling you, you're Indoctrinated! The Reapers are LYING to you!' ...and we are supposed to believe Star-kid when he spouts the exact same cr*p to us? Never!


Catalyst is still following his programming(stated by Leviathan), hence he's a shacled AI which means he can't lie(stated by EDI), hence he's telling the truth about the options.

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clennon8 wrote...

I'm not telling anyone what to choose. Just pointing out that very, very few people like Bioware's "best" ending.

Let me tell you how I feel, though.  This might give you an idea why many of us "destroyers" are bitter.

As a destroyer, I feel like I have the following two options:

1) Join the cult of IT, where you get to pick destroy and say "I win," but you have to deal with hordes of people pointing at you and laughing, because, you know, you're in a cult.
2) Take the literalist stance, accepting the abandonment and sudden reversal of themes as "art," where Destroy becomes the red-headed stepchild of the other two choices, picked only by shallow people and aggro jerks.

Not. Very. Satisfying.


There is a third option. Reject Bioware's ending altogether. It's not like there aren't better endings out there. Example: Marauder Shields, or the Youtube video that snips Starkid out of the narrative. Honestly, do you really have any plans to play ME4? If not, then why does it matter if your chosen ending is compatable with Bioware's 'canon'? (And if so...why? What could you possibly get out of a ME4?)

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Again, prove it to me by polling every single gamer who finished the game before claiming that it's so.


I think you are a tad confused how sampling works