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[Emzamination]

The Uncanny wrote...

plnero wrote...

If you don't want to play through the game on Nightmare then you don't have to. I enjoy collecting achievments so I would really like to see an achievment for playing the game on Nightmare. I gain something and you lose nothing, why does this bother you?

If you want to play the game through on Nightmare then go right ahead. I enjoy collecting achievements so I'd really like not to see an achievement for playing the game on Nightmare. I gain something and you lose nothing. Why does this bother you?

Actually you lose nothing and he loses a possible achievement.

[Scott Sion]

Emzamination wrote...

plnero wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

An achievement would be nice but it's quite unnecessary because only real gamers play on nightmare and that's a reward in and of itself.

Why thank you. I do so like having my gamer card revoked due to not wanting to spend hours on one fight.

On topic: While I was tempted to try Nightmare Mode in Mass Effect, I can't see myself enjoying it in Dragon Age. Mostly because I'm not one for tactical gameplay. I run in, bash at everything and hope I come out alive.
But I think an achievement is a nice idea for the people who do play on the highest difficulty. It's a reward for them and I never cared enough to let it bother me that I won't be gettig that particular 'trophy'.

Hours? Proper Tactics and preparation should narrow that down to 15 minutes

I'm pretty sure "hours" was an exaggeration, but depending on the fight it can like a while even with a sound strategy. I'm a real gamer, however I don't usually play a game on the hardest difficulty unless there's something to gain out if it other then a big head.

Let us not forget challenge and skill improvement as well.Playing on nightmare from beginning to end puts one in a survival mindset, which forces one to put extra care into builds, tactics, armor, accessories, combos, party groups and supplys.

Playing on easy and being able to just bash your way through the game only diminishes skill as there is nothing to challenge the player.

@ Bolded:Nope, a vet would take everything the game has to throw at them and still come out on top.Origins on easy gave the player small mobs of monsters while cranking it up to nightmare would make that same mob a bit larger.

You could bash your way through on normal, however tactics make it much easier. True, Nightmare forces you to think outside the box and come up with some good strategies, but what good would these strategies do me if I'm just going to play on Normal after I've had my challenge? Remember, you can bash your way through on normal so advanced tactics and strategy wouldn't be needed.

@Bolded: Nope, this an opinion and I dismissed it. A really gamer plays for the pure enjoyment of the game and nothing else. Before someone attempts to turn that around on me I'm going to say that I enjoy collecting achievments. 
 

Modifié par plnero, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:21 .

[Milan92]

Ah well, this doesn't really matter since we all know that Bioware won't do it. They have never done it before with DA games so I don't see them doing it now.

[TheChris92]

Emzamination wrote...
An achievement would be nice but it's quite unnecessary because only real gamers play on nightmare and that's a reward in and of itself.

See the interesting thing about a gamer is that they come in all shapes and forms. Some play games for the challenge, others for story, fun and other reasons. Doesn't make them less a gamer regardless

[Yana Montana]

I mostly play on a difficulty 1 level lower than the highest one and if I feel confident enough in my gaming powers, can go total hardcore on my arse, coz well, the girl likes a challenge! However it can be rather stressful and adding an achievement only puts on extra pressure.

Most people play video games for fun and I don't see how completing a game on hardest difficulty level for those who are "whoring cheevos" but still enjoy the game for the story and such will bring this joy to the masses.

Hardcore gamer does not need an achievement to prove s/he is hardcore. ^_<

Modifié par Yana Montana, 25 octobre 2012 - 07:34 .

[Gewehr_fr]

Why not ? Achievements are supposed to give a challenge after all.

That said I'd most likely be unable to get it, requires too much preparation and tactics which I'm not really fond of, compared to Mass Effect's insanity where you just have to be more careful.

[Emzamination]

plnero wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

plnero wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

An achievement would be nice but it's quite unnecessary because only real gamers play on nightmare and that's a reward in and of itself.

Why thank you. I do so like having my gamer card revoked due to not wanting to spend hours on one fight.

On topic: While I was tempted to try Nightmare Mode in Mass Effect, I can't see myself enjoying it in Dragon Age. Mostly because I'm not one for tactical gameplay. I run in, bash at everything and hope I come out alive.
But I think an achievement is a nice idea for the people who do play on the highest difficulty. It's a reward for them and I never cared enough to let it bother me that I won't be gettig that particular 'trophy'.

Hours? Proper Tactics and preparation should narrow that down to 15 minutes

I'm pretty sure "hours" was an exaggeration, but depending on the fight it can like a while even with a sound strategy. I'm a real gamer, however I don't usually play a game on the hardest difficulty unless there's something to gain out if it other then a big head.

Let us not forget challenge and skill improvement as well.Playing on nightmare from beginning to end puts one in a survival mindset, which forces one to put extra care into builds, tactics, armor, accessories, combos, party groups and supplys.

Playing on easy and being able to just bash your way through the game only diminishes skill as there is nothing to challenge the player.

@ Bolded:Nope, a vet would take everything the game has to throw at them and still come out on top.Origins on easy gave the player small mobs of monsters while cranking it up to nightmare would make that same mob a bit larger.

You could bash your way through on normal, however tactics make it much easier. True, Nightmare forces you to think outside the box and come up with some good strategies, but what good would these strategies do me if I'm just going to play on Normal after I've had my challenge? Remember, you can bash your way through on normal so advanced tactics and strategy wouldn't be needed.

@Bolded: Nope, this an opinion and I dismissed it. A really gamer plays for the pure enjoyment of the game and nothing else. Before someone attempts to turn that around on me I'm going to say that I enjoy collecting achievments. 
 

Effectively making your skills lax as they are no longer needed? I can't see the bright side in that.

@Bolded: Hippy speak

[mesmerizedish]

Milan92 wrote...

plnero wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

No no no and no again.

Achievements like that are stupid. I'm not going to play a complete Nightmare playthrough just because I want to get a final achievement. Besides I never play high difficulties, I always play casual. Why work hard when you can do it easy.

If you don't want to play through the game on Nightmare then you don't have to. I enjoy collecting achievments so I would really like to see an achievment for playing the game on Nightmare. I gain something and you lose nothing, why does this bother you?

Because I like to always get every achievement in games?

So you balk at difficulty but still expect to get all the achievements?

"I want all the achievements, so don't make achievements for things I don't want to do!" is... a really stupid position.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with playing on Casual. There's also absolutely nothing wrong with never siding with the templars. I don't complain that I'll never get that achievement, because I'm totally okay with "this achievement requires that I do something I'd rather not do."

If you look at achievements as something you need to get, then you need to be willing to do what it takes to get the achievements. It's absolutely and entirely unreasonable to expect the achievements to be tailored to you and you alone.

[Emzamination]

TheChris92 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...
An achievement would be nice but it's quite unnecessary because only real gamers play on nightmare and that's a reward in and of itself.

See the interesting thing about a gamer is that they come in all shapes and forms. Some play games for the challenge, others for story, fun and other reasons. Doesn't make them less a gamer regardless

Agreed

[Lenimph]

I'd like to request that bioware not even give the game achievements at all...

[Ecto-Plasmic Effect]

I'm all for it. If anything, they should take out achievements where you have to collect a bunch of stuff.

[Milan92]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

plnero wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

No no no and no again.

Achievements like that are stupid. I'm not going to play a complete Nightmare playthrough just because I want to get a final achievement. Besides I never play high difficulties, I always play casual. Why work hard when you can do it easy.

If you don't want to play through the game on Nightmare then you don't have to. I enjoy collecting achievments so I would really like to see an achievment for playing the game on Nightmare. I gain something and you lose nothing, why does this bother you?

Because I like to always get every achievement in games?

So you balk at difficulty but still expect to get all the achievements?

"I want all the achievements, so don't make achievements for things I don't want to do!" is... a really stupid position.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with playing on Casual. There's also absolutely nothing wrong with never siding with the templars. I don't complain that I'll never get that achievement, because I'm totally okay with "this achievement requires that I do something I'd rather not do."

If you look at achievements as something you need to get, then you need to be willing to do what it takes to get the achievements. It's absolutely and entirely unreasonable to expect the achievements to be tailored to you and you alone.

I have come across plenty of games that allow you to get all achievements without having to complete it on the highest difficutly. Your talking right now as if I'm the only person who doesn't like difficulty achievements. Well I'm not.

[Masha Potato]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

So you balk at difficulty but still expect to get all the achievements?

"I want all the achievements, so don't make achievements for things I don't want to do!" is... a really stupid position.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with playing on Casual. There's also absolutely nothing wrong with never siding with the templars. I don't complain that I'll never get that achievement, because I'm totally okay with "this achievement requires that I do something I'd rather not do."

If you look at achievements as something you need to get, then you need to be willing to do what it takes to get the achievements. It's absolutely and entirely unreasonable to expect the achievements to be tailored to you and you alone.

[upsettingshorts]

Milan92 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

So you balk at difficulty but still expect to get all the achievements?

"I want all the achievements, so don't make achievements for things I don't want to do!" is... a really stupid position.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with playing on Casual. There's also absolutely nothing wrong with never siding with the templars. I don't complain that I'll never get that achievement, because I'm totally okay with "this achievement requires that I do something I'd rather not do."

If you look at achievements as something you need to get, then you need to be willing to do what it takes to get the achievements. It's absolutely and entirely unreasonable to expect the achievements to be tailored to you and you alone.

I have come across plenty of games that allow you to get all achievements without having to complete it on the highest difficutly. Your talking right now as if I'm the only person who doesn't like difficulty achievements. Well I'm not.

Not quite.

She's saying all of you are wrong.  

And I agree.

[Rinji the Bearded]

The only time I would be opposed to a nightmare achievement would be if it unlocked special content, like a cutscene or what have you. But Dragon Age has never done this, so I don't think I have reason to worry. OR DO I--

Anyway I agree with ish, if you want to unlock achievements... you should do what is necessary to unlock them. Me, I could give a hoot about little virtual pats on the back.

[Realmzmaster]

If we are going to go hardcore and have a real Nightmare mode then I would like the following:

Only one save slot allowed.
Permadeath (PC dies then it is game over and you roll a new character)
If an NPC dies then that NPC is lost for the rest of the game.
Remove instant regeneration of health and mana.
Cool down on potions and spells double
Poison, disease and injuries dramatically affect attributes.
No potions or injury kits above lesser.
Put in food, water and weight requirements

That would be my idea of Nightmare.

[Emzamination]

Realmzmaster wrote...

If we are going to go hardcore and have a real Nightmare mode then I would like the following:

Only one save slot allowed.
Permadeath (PC dies then it is game over and you roll a new character)
If an NPC dies then that NPC is lost for the rest of the game.
Remove instant regeneration of health and mana.
Cool down on potions and spells double
Poison, disease and injuries dramatically affect attributes.
No potions or injury kits above lesser.
Put in food, water and weight requirements

That would be my idea of Nightmare.

^ Eeeeeeek this would be soooooo awesome *girlish Squeal*

[Maria Caliban]

Lenimph wrote...

I'd like to request that bioware not even give the game achievements at all...

Why?

[The Hierophant]

There should be a new game + instead with the option to carry over gear, and levels, or both seperately.

[Masha Potato]

NG+ doesn't really help with connecting gameplay and story tho

[Tootles FTW]

I liked it with the DA:O DLC (Golems of Amgarrak, Witch Hunt) where the Hard/Nightmare achievements were linked to the boss battles only, so you could just switch difficulties before activating the fight.

[The Hierophant]

Masha Potato wrote...

NG+ doesn't really help with connecting gameplay and story tho

NG+ could help to bridge the gap on achieving maximum levels without exploits? Heck i remember that Da2's level cap was 50, but it's impossible to reach without the exp. exploit.

[Masha Potato]

I think they might have been planning for an expansion with that cap. Which never happened

[Iosev]

I personally do not have a problem if Bioware decided to attach an achievement/trophy for beating the game on Nightmare, although I'll admit that I'm biased since I typically play their games on Insanity or Nightmare exclusively (so it would just be a bonus to the way I already play).

With that said, I'm not really an achievement/trophy player (i.e., I don't normally seek them out); I've only gotten 100% on achievements or trophies with a few games, and those were by simply replaying those games since I enjoyed them.

Modifié par arcelonious, 25 octobre 2012 - 08:55 .