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#251
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I think we should nerf the novaguard. Saw one yesterday who tanked 3 gold brutes and a banshee. They were all dead when he charged out of there. My TGI would never be able to survive in that snakepit despite having "superman bars".

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Haters gunna hate.
Waaaaa I think the ghost is a good character. Wtf op just play the game with whatever kit u want to use n stop trying to take away other peoples amusement. Get a life bro

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Vikingo wrote...

I think we should nerf the novaguard. Saw one yesterday who tanked 3 gold brutes and a banshee. They were all dead when he charged out of there. My TGI would never be able to survive in that snakepit despite having "superman bars".


There's someone else out there who calls them that too?

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

lfc19titles wrote...

If you got outscored like that then you need to improve

You are wrong

I can tell you are one of those two users who play those classes and thats it. Ok, I rarely play those two classes, every plat run bar 1 has been with random classes. Player skill is very important, that is my point, it should be about that

I am glad you agree, it IS about player skill, the point is that especially with the ghost, you can have LOW player skill and still be immortal damage dealing god. that is the whole point, it needs balancing

if you are not good enough on other classes, I suggest you drop down a level, learn how to play with them, then you will be fine again.

Have a good day


Hah! Spoken like someone who has never played with any good players. (And also never played with Jay).

Here's a fun fact: I'm 10 x better at this game than you will ever be. I play just about every kit in the game from time to time, the GI just so happens to be my favourite class. (I never use the TGI). The TGI is what I like to call 'baby's first gold' class. (Similar to the kroguard) in that it's very easy not to die on. But if you played with me on a TGI, you could name any other class and I can guarantee I would outscore you. Why? Because I'm better than you.

The last part about 'not being good enough on other classes' is laughable. Seeing as I play (and have stated several times already) just about every class in the game.

I suggest you l2play, and learn who you're talking to before saying silly things. :wizard:



I suggest you relax a bit, I don't think many people outside this forums give a damn who you are or how many platinum runs with your friends you did. "Learn who you're talking to" or "I'm 10 x better at this game than you will ever be" makes you sound like a try hard douche and I'm sure you're not a douche, right?

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how can a class be totally op, when i still outscore it with a AJ, Fury, Paladin, Destroyer, Demolisher, SI, QMI, GI

somebody who sucks at this game, will still suck with the TGI. There's no "i win" button, if you choose the TGI. From a kit, that you call totally overpowered, i except that even a noob can rock with it. But that's definitely not the case

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Modifié par noeschi, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:33 .


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nerf this, nerf that.. and then I thought I was playing a co-op MP game vs some AI controlled mobs, silly me

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So we finally have a character that allows even not so skilled players to experience Gold/Platinum difficulty without being as much of a burden as they would be otherwise due to their lack of experience within these difficulties?

The Ghost seems to open up Gold/Platinum to casual players, how is this bad?

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FatalionPanic wrote...

So we finally have a character that allows even not so skilled players to experience Gold/Platinum difficulty without being as much of a burden as they would be otherwise due to their lack of experience within these difficulties?

The Ghost seems to open up Gold/Platinum to casual players, how is this bad?

Ah BSN. Gotta love it.
'X is OP Nerf it Bioware!!!'

a couple of days later...

'PUGS on platinum and gold suck!!! '

Bioware :*SIGH*

#260
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 Really OP? Bashing Jay? He's a god damn famous player on these forums and a great guy.

You on the other hand I've never seen.

Ontop of all of this you think the GHOST is broken? NEGATIVE. You can out-score him with a Krogan soldier or a Bat soldier with ease. Learn to god damn play.

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lfc19titles wrote...

n0odles wrote...

lfc19titles wrote...

n0odles wrote...

Does the OP play any platinum games? Seriously. You cannot moan about wanting a character nerfed unless you're playing on the highest difficulty and are still finding it stupidly easy. Which is isn't. I would be tempted to say Platinum was easy until the recent updates and DLC. It's a good challenge now. I don't use the TG, btw. Not my kinda character. But you're bloody daft if you want a character nerfed and you're not even playing on the highest difficulty.


When did I ever say Plat is easy? Yes I do play when my friends are on?

What I am saying is to simply make the class balanced, it does get advantages over the rest which it should not have

Plat with a good team with balances classes is doable as well, sure sometimes you fail but it is Plat after all!


I'm not saying you said platinum games were easy. Reread what I wrote. Properly.

So basically, you're having a good moan because the people who play the TG are getting more points than you in games other than Platinum. Yes?

If points and 'balancing' are what irks you, go play more Platinum. Plenty of ways to get points there ;-)


Dude it has noutttt to do with points, I said why earlier, its his huge weapon output which does lead to points but that is natural and his superman packs making him near immortal, it is simply not balanced. it can survive easily by using a pack and getting out of there

or Pack, Tc, shoot and repeat, no matter what, unless insta killed, you win.

One of my Fav guys is the Volus, I am a huge fan, points is not something on Plat I care about. I don't know why but I care that classes are balanced, which is why I am hoping it will be sooner rather than later


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Look, you're just basically moaning that you're not getting enough points when you play with other people. That's OK. Really. It's your opinion. Here's a suggestion, though; why don't you back out of games that have TG's in them? I barely come across them in Gold or Plat.

You having a good moan cos you can? I doubt they're going to nerf it. As someone said, the TG gives casual players the opportunity to play on harder difficulties.

You're a spoil sport. Boo hoo. -1 from me. And the majority of people posting here, too, it seems.

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I agree the nerf of ghost , he is an unbalance , out of control character , even noob can be a jetpack flying superman using him

Modifié par TommyNg, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:54 .


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BioWare: Lets buff the garbage by 2% - 5%
Also lets nerf the fun/enjoyable stuff by 50+%

No more nerfs when they aren't needed.

Modifié par ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:52 .


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FatalionPanic

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TommyNg wrote...

I agree the nerf of ghost , he is an unbalance , out of control character , even noob can be a superman using him


and that is bad why?
because you get your credits faster and easier?
the game takes less time to complete?

I'm lost here.

Modifié par FatalionPanic, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:52 .


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TommyNg wrote...

I agree the nerf of ghost , he is an unbalance , out of control character , even noob can be a superman using him

Yet I can't survive wave 1 bronze with him like I can with the drell. Interesting logic you got their. :whistle:

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lfc19titles wrote...
For those who play UUP matches,The ghost needs nerfing, just look at the thread link below, it has insane damage and superman packs, you are getting less skilled players just surviving on them, it really is destroying the balance of the game.

With his cloak, the safest highest damage output pretty much in the game, achieved so quickly with ease and on top he has immortal packs to stop him from dying

if any class needs nerfing, lets be honest, deep inside, It is his

Some suggestions

TC

Nerf the 40 percent damage boost to 30 percent, increase SR damage at rank 6 by 10 percent

Nerf the superman packs....allow them to restore 1 shield bar max, 2 with an upgrade.

here is a stat thread which backs my point

http://social.biowar...ndex/14675847/1

As I said, if you are still defending it, then you need to improve, stop using OP classes to survive on Plat, use balanced ones, like Lord Sirian, if you are still worried, then go to gold and learn your craft

The evidence is there, while the GI is less unbalanced than the ghost, both need slight tweaking

If you are still against it, then you are just thinking of yourself to survive with the best with less skill, you need the OP class

that is not how any game should be made, everything should be balanced

support the change, support balance, support in stop giving less skilled players a free ride with superman

Surviving destroys balance? Huh? Really? Explain.

"...giving less skilled players a free ride with superman"
It's either that or carrying everybody. So that's actually a huge plus for me.

But you know, I hardly ever see anybody using them. I see a lot more Korguards to be honest.
And I also see a lot more N7 Destroyers, N7 Demolishers, Turian Soldiers, Geth Engineers...
Honestly, you're making it sound like everybody is using them.

I mean seriously, you sound like a huge cancerous swelling of butthurt.

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TommyNg

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FatalionPanic wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

I agree the nerf of ghost , he is an unbalance , out of control character , even noob can be a superman using him


and that is bad why?
because you get your credits faster and easier?
the game takes less time to complete?

I'm lost here.




I play for fun , not credit , I need variety , seeing every people using infiltrator on gold is boring . You go to gold lobby and check it out

Modifié par TommyNg, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:57 .


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lfc19titles wrote...

EDIT

I may have gone overboard with the GI now that I think about it, but the post about ghost is 100 percent needed

Also it seems Lord Sirian has called on his friends(Jay_Hoxtatron ) to bash me in this thread, if you see this, please don't humiliate yourself like they are doing, believe me it makes yourself look bad...and look immature. So please keep this thread on topic.
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really?:whistle:

For those who play UUP matches,The ghost needs nerfing, just look at the thread link below, it has insane damage and superman packs, you are getting less skilled players just surviving on them, it really is destroying the balance of the game.


So... what? The fact that less skilled players can play Platinum, survive it, hell, even HAVE FUN on it and earn money to unlock things is suddenly a bad thing?

You're still playing the kit you want, right? And you have a buddy list so you can agree on not using Turian Ghosts for the match to be more of a challenge, right?

With his cloak, the safest highest damage output pretty much in the game, achieved so quickly with ease and on top he has immortal packs to stop him from dying

if any class needs nerfing, lets be honest, deep inside, It is his


NO class needs nerfing.

Some suggestions

TC

Nerf the 40 percent damage boost to 30 percent, increase SR damage at rank 6 by 10 percent

Nerf the superman packs....allow them to restore 1 shield bar max, 2 with an upgrade.

here is a stat thread which backs my point

http://social.biowar...ndex/14675847/1

As I said, if you are still defending it, then you need to improve, stop using OP classes to survive on Plat, use balanced ones, like Lord Sirian, if you are still worried, then go to gold and learn your craft


I'll quote Rinfeno form a few weeks back: that's the worst logic I heard since I met the Catalyst.

If I want to go to Platinum, it's better if I start with the 'less dying' class, am I not right? If there weren't any 'easier' classes, how the hell am I supposed to do any progress? By playing Batarian Sentinel on Silver for ages to come?

The evidence is there, while the GI is less unbalanced than the ghost, both need slight tweaking

If you are still against it, then you are just thinking of yourself to survive with the best with less skill, you need the OP class

that is not how any game should be made, everything should be balanced

support the change, support balance, support in stop giving less skilled players a free ride with superman


I am thinking, unlike you, about the other players, not myself (I played one or two gold games with TGI, totally). About the newcomers, about the less skilled that you despise.
Our (as a whole, not just you and me) skill level differ. Our goal (unlocking f***ing everything) - doesn't.
We unlock things by earning credits. The most of them are earned on Plat. Therefore people want to play Plat. There's a class that allows them to.

Simple as that.

Use your buddy list, play with people you enjoy playing with, and just don't think about all these nasty farmers using TGI somwhere. It's not only your game after all.

Cheers.

#269
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Oh no less skilled people can survive better with him and get points too... MUST NERF <_<
Why are people constantly whining about everything? If it feels too easy for you choose another character, there are alot of them.

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-1/10

Get off my plane.

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Does it matter if this character is abit overpowered, the game i feel since the patch has gotten harder, so we need some overpowered characters and weapons to combat that.

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Vic7im wrote...

-1/10

Get off my plane.


-1/10 is far too much for a nerf thread for the character which isn't overused, at least in the gold pugs.

combined with the fact that the stim packs nerf would nerf the Havoc too, and he isn't nowhere near being OP.

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OP. If you think the kit is OP, please, get some friends, make a gentelman's agreement not to use this kit and GO AWAY. I can understand that you are the best, and seeing less skilled players to survive UUP makes you cry, but on the other hand - it's about fun. I saw Volus Plat against Collectors and what, we should call "NERF THE VOLUS!!!" ? Seriously?

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Vic7im wrote...

-1/10

Get off my plane.

 

Harrison Ford FTW.

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I remember the typhoon nerf... I was nerved twice before the majority of players got a chance to try it out. I hope they do not repeat the same mistake.