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[TommyNg]

Od3at wrote...

Explain how this will affect the other classes fairly?

On the TC side, I see it being reasonable. Unnecessary, but reasonable in that it's 10%, and infiltrators who take it to rank 4 can survive with a little less. As for the buff to sniper damage, that's just something that's been a long time coming. Unfortunately, it's much better to run with an AR or a shotgun with your infiltrators these days.

On the stim pack, how is the havok supposed to survive? That class, by far needs the survivability factor from the stims. Take that away, and it's a poor man's vanguard.

There isn't a way that the TGI can be nerfed, without collateral nerfing other classes, that honestly don't need the nerf.

There is a way , make havoc strike recharge shield then , and will havoc be overpower?

[Mr Goodcat]

TommyNg wrote...

Od3at wrote...

Explain how this will affect the other classes fairly?

On the TC side, I see it being reasonable. Unnecessary, but reasonable in that it's 10%, and infiltrators who take it to rank 4 can survive with a little less. As for the buff to sniper damage, that's just something that's been a long time coming. Unfortunately, it's much better to run with an AR or a shotgun with your infiltrators these days.

On the stim pack, how is the havok supposed to survive? That class, by far needs the survivability factor from the stims. Take that away, and it's a poor man's vanguard.

There isn't a way that the TGI can be nerfed, without collateral nerfing other classes, that honestly don't need the nerf.

There is a way , make havoc strike recharge shield then , and will havoc be overpower?

really this is your suggestion? i have some more straws for you to clutch at if you would like. the TG is not op and i am still waiting for you or any pro nerfer to tell me what detremental effect this guy has on your game

[DarkSpooky]

Optimisticalman wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Something strange happened today. I had a lot of Ghosts in my Gold PUGs. Almost everyone used a Harrier.

So i asked a few of them why they play the Ghost. These are the answers:

a) I just unlocked him and the Harrier is the only AR that i use/feel comfortable with.
There's this glitch where you can max every power and passive tree.
c) I read on Mass Effect forum that he's extremely powerful.

The irony. It's delicious. Better hope the Ghost gets nerfed or your complaining about too many Ghosts will result in...even more Ghosts.

There's no "hope". It's already been confirmed by another poster a while ago that bioware was planning on nerfing him before these discussions were even started. I'm just hoping that it's soon, so we can really see how "elite" so called elitist are without their clutch to rely on. And i'm pretty sure your experience is falsified either way as it doesn't even sound realistic for every single person to give the exact same answer.

First, proof or GTFO. Second, I and many others are just as good with this class as damn near any other. Skill is what matters, something you obviously lack. As for the glitch, only the weak and useless need to glitch to win.

As for the 'crutch' bit, a good player would make people like you cry about the HS with an Avenger.

As Gaz would say.... WHINER!

[Mr Goodcat]

DarkSpooky wrote...

Optimisticalman wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Something strange happened today. I had a lot of Ghosts in my Gold PUGs. Almost everyone used a Harrier.

So i asked a few of them why they play the Ghost. These are the answers:

a) I just unlocked him and the Harrier is the only AR that i use/feel comfortable with.
There's this glitch where you can max every power and passive tree.
c) I read on Mass Effect forum that he's extremely powerful.

The irony. It's delicious. Better hope the Ghost gets nerfed or your complaining about too many Ghosts will result in...even more Ghosts.

There's no "hope". It's already been confirmed by another poster a while ago that bioware was planning on nerfing him before these discussions were even started. I'm just hoping that it's soon, so we can really see how "elite" so called elitist are without their clutch to rely on. And i'm pretty sure your experience is falsified either way as it doesn't even sound realistic for every single person to give the exact same answer.

First, proof or GTFO. Second, I and many others are just as good with this class as damn near any other. Skill is what matters, something you obviously lack. As for the glitch, only the weak and useless need to glitch to win.

As for the 'crutch' bit, a good player would make people like you cry about the HS with an Avenger.

As Gaz would say.... WHINER!

yes get in darkspooky.
i actually enjoyed using the avenger with him for the challenge 

[Optimisticalman]

DarkSpooky wrote...

Optimisticalman wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Something strange happened today. I had a lot of Ghosts in my Gold PUGs. Almost everyone used a Harrier.

So i asked a few of them why they play the Ghost. These are the answers:

a) I just unlocked him and the Harrier is the only AR that i use/feel comfortable with.
There's this glitch where you can max every power and passive tree.
c) I read on Mass Effect forum that he's extremely powerful.

The irony. It's delicious. Better hope the Ghost gets nerfed or your complaining about too many Ghosts will result in...even more Ghosts.

There's no "hope". It's already been confirmed by another poster a while ago that bioware was planning on nerfing him before these discussions were even started. I'm just hoping that it's soon, so we can really see how "elite" so called elitist are without their clutch to rely on. And i'm pretty sure your experience is falsified either way as it doesn't even sound realistic for every single person to give the exact same answer.

First, proof or GTFO. Second, I and many others are just as good with this class as damn near any other. Skill is what matters, something you obviously lack. As for the glitch, only the weak and useless need to glitch to win.

As for the 'crutch' bit, a good player would make people like you cry about the HS with an Avenger.

As Gaz would say.... WHINER!

Good people that call themselves good wouldn't defend a broken character (that they obviously need to be good)

And only children use unprovoked juvenile insults to support their arguements.

Seems you need to do some self realizing.

[sonofabumdooda]

bob2.0 wrote...

sonofabumdooda wrote...

The only way to solve this mess is to request the sevices of one of the elders

Get BW to create a special never ending level...filled with literally GAGILLIONS of pre nerf hunters
Then call up Mr.Earth or him above^^^^^ (*kneels*) and offer him some of said bananas (I hear he loves bananas) to play all aforementioned classes into infinity or a black hole and who ever is alive at the end gets uber nerfed.

lets all go back to playing with our lego friends.

I would probably purchase a game titled Lego Mass Effect.

just think of it

the endless calls for
'please nerf my square bottom'

[Mr Goodcat]

Optimisticalman wrote...

DarkSpooky wrote...

Optimisticalman wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Something strange happened today. I had a lot of Ghosts in my Gold PUGs. Almost everyone used a Harrier.

So i asked a few of them why they play the Ghost. These are the answers:

a) I just unlocked him and the Harrier is the only AR that i use/feel comfortable with.
There's this glitch where you can max every power and passive tree.
c) I read on Mass Effect forum that he's extremely powerful.

The irony. It's delicious. Better hope the Ghost gets nerfed or your complaining about too many Ghosts will result in...even more Ghosts.

There's no "hope". It's already been confirmed by another poster a while ago that bioware was planning on nerfing him before these discussions were even started. I'm just hoping that it's soon, so we can really see how "elite" so called elitist are without their clutch to rely on. And i'm pretty sure your experience is falsified either way as it doesn't even sound realistic for every single person to give the exact same answer.

First, proof or GTFO. Second, I and many others are just as good with this class as damn near any other. Skill is what matters, something you obviously lack. As for the glitch, only the weak and useless need to glitch to win.

As for the 'crutch' bit, a good player would make people like you cry about the HS with an Avenger.

As Gaz would say.... WHINER!

Good people that call themselves good wouldn't defend a broken character (that they obviously need to be good)

And only children use unprovoked juvenile insults to support their arguements.

Seems you need to do some self realizing.

1st he is NOT broken
2nd you are just butthurt 
3rd if you are so good why cant i check your stats on the n7 hq as you have hidden them lol. 

feel free to check mine but know this not i will not help you get creds

[TommyNg]

Mr Goodcat wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

Od3at wrote...

Explain how this will affect the other classes fairly?

On the TC side, I see it being reasonable. Unnecessary, but reasonable in that it's 10%, and infiltrators who take it to rank 4 can survive with a little less. As for the buff to sniper damage, that's just something that's been a long time coming. Unfortunately, it's much better to run with an AR or a shotgun with your infiltrators these days.

On the stim pack, how is the havok supposed to survive? That class, by far needs the survivability factor from the stims. Take that away, and it's a poor man's vanguard.

There isn't a way that the TGI can be nerfed, without collateral nerfing other classes, that honestly don't need the nerf.

There is a way , make havoc strike recharge shield then , and will havoc be overpower?

really this is your suggestion? i have some more straws for you to clutch at if you would like. the TG is not op and i am still waiting for you or any pro nerfer to tell me what detremental effect this guy has on your game

The effect is I have seen him too much on gold lobby, too boring, and he certainly overpower no question here.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Citizen of BSN, ignore these kind of thread and move along. Its not the thread we are looking for, let it sink to the bottom of abyss.

[Jslk]

Ghost Nerf argument:

"There is a natural order to this world, and those who try to upend it do not fare well..."
-Slavey McSlaveowner

[gonchan]

TommyNg wrote...

Mr Goodcat wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

Od3at wrote...

Explain how this will affect the other classes fairly?

On the TC side, I see it being reasonable. Unnecessary, but reasonable in that it's 10%, and infiltrators who take it to rank 4 can survive with a little less. As for the buff to sniper damage, that's just something that's been a long time coming. Unfortunately, it's much better to run with an AR or a shotgun with your infiltrators these days.

On the stim pack, how is the havok supposed to survive? That class, by far needs the survivability factor from the stims. Take that away, and it's a poor man's vanguard.

There isn't a way that the TGI can be nerfed, without collateral nerfing other classes, that honestly don't need the nerf.

There is a way , make havoc strike recharge shield then , and will havoc be overpower?

really this is your suggestion? i have some more straws for you to clutch at if you would like. the TG is not op and i am still waiting for you or any pro nerfer to tell me what detremental effect this guy has on your game

The effect is I have seen him too much on gold lobby, too boring, and he certainly overpower no question here.

Ohh what an argument. In my last match i was an asari with 3 vorcha...NERF THE VORCHA!!!!!

[Mr Goodcat]

TommyNg wrote...

Mr Goodcat wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

Od3at wrote...

Explain how this will affect the other classes fairly?

On the TC side, I see it being reasonable. Unnecessary, but reasonable in that it's 10%, and infiltrators who take it to rank 4 can survive with a little less. As for the buff to sniper damage, that's just something that's been a long time coming. Unfortunately, it's much better to run with an AR or a shotgun with your infiltrators these days.

On the stim pack, how is the havok supposed to survive? That class, by far needs the survivability factor from the stims. Take that away, and it's a poor man's vanguard.

There isn't a way that the TGI can be nerfed, without collateral nerfing other classes, that honestly don't need the nerf.

There is a way , make havoc strike recharge shield then , and will havoc be overpower?

really this is your suggestion? i have some more straws for you to clutch at if you would like. the TG is not op and i am still waiting for you or any pro nerfer to tell me what detremental effect this guy has on your game

The effect is I have seen him too much on gold lobby, too boring, and he certainly overpower no question here.

so let me see if i got this right, you think he is boring so you would like to ruin it for everyone else. what a nice guy you are. im so glad i get to meet such pleasent, selfless people as you on BSN

[Nova-SheperdXD]

NERF EVERYTHING BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS OP DERP!


But seriously, stop nerfing everything, it's annoying as ****. 

Modifié par Nova-SheperdXD, 27 octobre 2012 - 09:58 .

[blueyesdevil]

/signed

[joker_jack]

Wow, and I thought the idiocy of this thread had gone. Guess stupidity is like a raging of the clap.<_<

Modifié par joker_jack, 27 octobre 2012 - 10:09 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

Don't like it don't play it. Stop crying because you got outscored.

[Big Jack Shepard]

The TGI needs to be snarfed.

[demondioma]

I've have yet to understand why nerfs are so cried for in a co-op game. Yeah yeah power creep, everyone will start using the Ghost (even though I rarely ever see it), so what? I would rather have average players running the show with a crutch character than have them dead on the 3rd wave.

[Kogia]

gonchan wrote...


Ohh what an argument. In my last match i was an asari with 3 vorcha...NERF THE VORCHA!!!!!

That's what I thought.... I keep finding myself in lobbies with half the team Asari Valkyries and yesterday I did a few not very fun matches with 3 other Turian Havocs, clearly they all need nerfing too then. Nothing to do with just being new kits.

Put me down as a no to the nerf too. The Ghost is good, I'm not that good with him, but I do like him and he is one I want to get better with, he has a good set of tools that seem to work well and make for some fun play, why would you want that changed?

The problem is probably more talked about because the Havoc could do with something extra added and that makes the Ghost appear even more powerful.

[darkpassenger2342]

this thread might make it to 50 pages.

[lfc19titles]

demondioma wrote...

I've have yet to understand why nerfs are so cried for in a co-op game. Yeah yeah power creep, everyone will start using the Ghost (even though I rarely ever see it), so what? I would rather have average players running the show with a crutch character than have them dead on the 3rd wave.

because that exactly is what makes a game not balanced

A balanced game is a happy game

[sonofabumdooda]

lfc19titles wrote...

demondioma wrote...

I've have yet to understand why nerfs are so cried for in a co-op game. Yeah yeah power creep, everyone will start using the Ghost (even though I rarely ever see it), so what? I would rather have average players running the show with a crutch character than have them dead on the 3rd wave.

because that exactly is what makes a game not balanced

A balanced game is a happy game

we don't want balance
we want style.

[pisonmison]

stfu nerf kid

[Mafia_Steve]

I seldom see them, at least in a way that they get used too often, by too many. If you think they are OP, then don't play them, or skip stim packs in your build of them.

[sonofabumdooda]

pisonmison wrote...

stfu nerf kid

eh?
I'd reply but it looks like you stole my handbag