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[Volatile Device]

lfc19titles wrote...

Miclotov wrote...

Why complain about things being "op" in a pure co-op game at all?
That makes only sense if something is really gamebreaking, not because some kid isn't 1st on the scoreboard.

It is gamebreaking

Consider that 100 plat games per day are successful (random number)

with this nerf, that would be reduced but a decent amount, it must be done to balance the game

With that logic, the game would be optimally balanced if there were no successful Platinum games, ever.

[shodiswe]

Geth Infiltrator really doesn't need a nerf, the dmg increase commes from cutting your shields in half... That quite the sacrifise considering you have the healt equivalent of a Volus..... A character that gets
-50% shields for a small dmg increase isn't overpowered.

[joker_jack]

OP, you opinion is like driving a car with your feet, you can do it if you want to, doesn't make a great ******* idea. Much like all the other stupid nerf threads and their authors.

[Lord Chun]

@ lfc19

But the passive is also tied to the GE yet another problem. I don't see a real solution to the GI problem or the stim pack one. Lets hope for the next one they keep all the classes ini files separated. I know it would take more space but would make balancing easier. But you never know the Fagnan may have a trick or two up his sleeve.

[Lacboi86]

lfc19titles wrote...

Miclotov wrote...

Why complain about things being "op" in a pure co-op game at all?
That makes only sense if something is really gamebreaking, not because some kid isn't 1st on the scoreboard.

It is gamebreaking

Consider that 100 plat games per day are successful (random number)

with this nerf, that would be reduced but a decent amount, it must be done to balance the game

Why must it be done?

[megabeast37215]

Lord Chun wrote...

@ lfc19

But the passive is also tied to the GE yet another problem. I don't see a real solution to the GI problem or the stim pack one. Lets hope for the next one they keep all the classes ini files separated. I know it would take more space but would make balancing easier. But you never know the Fagnan may have a trick or two up his sleeve.

As much as the GI is OP... I really don't see them at ANY level of play, unless it's myself or my friends using it. All the randoms are using the Earth classes... especially the Destroyer/Demolisher.

Using the GI takes some small degree of skill to prevent dying alot... not much... but a little...

My 10 year old son plays the GI like a boss on any difficulty (so it can't be that hard can it?).... he also got the 25 melee kills medal with a Volus Adept... seriously. Mofuggerx was there to witness it..

[lfc19titles]

Lacboi86 wrote...

lfc19titles wrote...

Miclotov wrote...

Why complain about things being "op" in a pure co-op game at all?
That makes only sense if something is really gamebreaking, not because some kid isn't 1st on the scoreboard.

It is gamebreaking

Consider that 100 plat games per day are successful (random number)

with this nerf, that would be reduced but a decent amount, it must be done to balance the game

Why must it be done?

Because for example, if those two classes did not exist, less matches would be completed, the only reason so many are done is because those 2 are OP

You don't have to be a sklilled gamer with the ghost, plat was meant to be the ultimate test, instead you have 2 classes making the level easier

a little nerf to both to get them down to the same level as other classes would balance it, if people can still do plat with the nerf, then fair do, they deserve it

but not with mad OP classes

[CronisN7]

meh TGI feels like a AR verson of the SI vs geth. if your spaming stims your doing it wrong.

either way they could just lower the final evo of the TGI TC buff to 10-15% instead of 25% or shorten the buff duration from 10 sec to 5 sec.

Modifié par CronisN7, 25 octobre 2012 - 12:13 .

[FeralJester616]

megabeast37215 wrote...

FeralJester616 wrote...

Its all this crying about stuff being OP that is ruining this game.
It a bleedin CoOp game people, I wonder if any of you know what that means.

So someone else is able to kill stuff quicker than your fave class, guess what... Thats a good thing.
Them killing them means you didn't need to and more importantly, it didn't get the chance to kill you.
Get over it. No matter what some things will always kill quicker, thats just the way it is.

Nerfing either the GI or TI will hurt other classes. Do any of you even think of that? 

Did you ever think that having a GI or a TI in every game hurts other classes? It makes them obsolete... on Gold anyway.

So the whole game should be balanced around Gold/Plat players?
Most players don't play those difficulties. Your point is irelivent anyway. Other classes are not "obsolete", not every class has to be a death dealing machine. Each class fills a different role on the field, which is as it should be.

Get over yourself...

[Lord Chun]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Lord Chun wrote...

@ lfc19

But the passive is also tied to the GE yet another problem. I don't see a real solution to the GI problem or the stim pack one. Lets hope for the next one they keep all the classes ini files separated. I know it would take more space but would make balancing easier. But you never know the Fagnan may have a trick or two up his sleeve.

As much as the GI is OP... I really don't see them at ANY level of play, unless it's myself or my friends using it. All the randoms are using the Earth classes... especially the Destroyer/Demolisher.

Using the GI takes some small degree of skill to prevent dying alot... not much... but a little...

My 10 year old son plays the GI like a boss on any difficulty (so it can't be that hard can it?).... he also got the 25 melee kills medal with a Volus Adept... seriously. Mofuggerx was there to witness it..

I don't see them that much anymore too, but when people say they are op nerf them then this whole presses must be take in hopes that understanding can be accomplished. Edit I can't see what I'm typing as I'm on a iPad  and it dosent to long quotes

Modifié par Lord Chun, 25 octobre 2012 - 12:15 .

[megabeast37215]

FeralJester616 wrote...

So the whole game should be balanced around Gold/Plat players?
Most players don't play those difficulties. Your point is irelivent anyway. Other classes are not "obsolete", not every class has to be a death dealing machine. Each class fills a different role on the field, which is as it should be.

Get over yourself...

Every character in the game is supposed to be a death dealing machine except the Volus... knucklehead... other than them there are no support classes in ME3 MP.

[Blown5pnt4]

You leave my GI alone.....you won't be crying when I take out those bosses with my javelin/widow x in 2-3 shots for you...I mean seriously your complaining about needing a class that when you turn on hunter mode any stray grenade or enemy fire takes you down.

[Lacboi86]

Sorry lfc19skittles I can't quote you. So do you play plat good sir? I can tell you that I can't. I could never complete plat even with the ghost or gi or even with a harrier. I just don't have the capacity alone to do that even with random party. It's not so much the one gi of ghost thats OP it's the group that makes a difference. Plat is the ultimate test but to say that gi or ghost being OP I have to disagree. I'm living proof that these kits can't do very good alone in plat or maybe I just suck.

[Vic7im]

Yeah no f**k off.

[Jackums]

ToaOrka wrote...

No.
 

[Lord Chun]

So the whole game should be balanced around Gold/Plat players?
Most players don't play those difficulties. Your point is irelivent anyway. Other classes are not "obsolete", not every class has to be a death dealing machine. Each class fills a different role on the field, which is as it should be.

Get over yourself...

you know the game is balanced around gold right?

[Rifneno]

I think the reason we don't see many GI's is because of that eye-raping overlay. Which I'm pretty sure wasn't made with the intention of causing real pain to the viewer. But if the overlay doesn't bother you, then I don't see why it's not... more powerful than any other DPS character. People call it a glass cannon but I die as much if not more with pre-nerf destroyer than I do with GI. It can take less damage but it also has fantastic mobility and can see 95% of the surprise attacks that take down other kits.

[megabeast37215]

Rifneno wrote...

I think the reason we don't see many GI's is because of that eye-raping overlay. Which I'm pretty sure wasn't made with the intention of causing real pain to the viewer. But if the overlay doesn't bother you, then I don't see why it's not... more powerful than any other DPS character. People call it a glass cannon but I die as much if not more with pre-nerf destroyer than I do with GI. It can take less damage but it also has fantastic mobility and can see 95% of the surprise attacks that take down other kits.

The eye rape isn't bad on a big TV...

I don't die with a GI very much either... b/c you can see everything coming... situational awareness is more powerful than any damage boost IMO.

[Lord Chun]

Mega yes it is and I got a 47in

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Guess what guys,I like to play Volus characters.It is refreshing experience.
You should try it sometimes.

[Rifneno]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think the reason we don't see many GI's is because of that eye-raping overlay. Which I'm pretty sure wasn't made with the intention of causing real pain to the viewer. But if the overlay doesn't bother you, then I don't see why it's not... more powerful than any other DPS character. People call it a glass cannon but I die as much if not more with pre-nerf destroyer than I do with GI. It can take less damage but it also has fantastic mobility and can see 95% of the surprise attacks that take down other kits.

The eye rape isn't bad on a big TV...

I don't die with a GI very much either... b/c you can see everything coming... situational awareness is more powerful han any damage boost IMO.

It's a big thing on PC monitors, where people go to get away from idiots who find things like "delicious tears" funny.

[megabeast37215]

Lord Chun wrote...

Mega yes it is and I got a 47in

I sit about 4 feet in front of a 55in... all I see is the middle of the screen LOL...

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Seeing as how stimpacks are better ops packs than ops packs are, yeah, they're gonna get it. And I will be ok with that.

[megabeast37215]

Rifneno wrote...

It's a big thing on PC monitors, where people go to get away from idiots who find things like "delicious tears" funny.

Something so trivial should be no sweat for the master race...

[joker_jack]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think the reason we don't see many GI's is because of that eye-raping overlay. Which I'm pretty sure wasn't made with the intention of causing real pain to the viewer. But if the overlay doesn't bother you, then I don't see why it's not... more powerful than any other DPS character. People call it a glass cannon but I die as much if not more with pre-nerf destroyer than I do with GI. It can take less damage but it also has fantastic mobility and can see 95% of the surprise attacks that take down other kits.

The eye rape isn't bad on a big TV...

I don't die with a GI very much either... b/c you can see everything coming... situational awareness is more powerful than any damage boost IMO.

Situational awareness coupled with a ppr x is win all around. Op is still a huge idiot regardless.