Fandango9641 wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
galland wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
drayfish wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
I don't want you to do anything at all. Please understand: I am in no way criticising you - every Shepard that believed in hope, or that was fighting for the rights of their fellow civilisations to live, got utterly screwed.
What I am questioning is the narrative structure of the game and the ugly moral quandry that was arbitrarilly loaded into its conclusion by the writers.
Maybe I was screwed, but why should that be faced with less courage than the implacable menace of the Reapers themselves?
Less courage? Because you agreed to do what they asked you to?
Why does it matter? What does it matter where victory comes from? All we should be concerned with is what it does... and that's concerning, but better than any alternative I can see.
"Why does it matter? What does it matter where victory comes from"
Please ask yourself that question again......ask what matters with regard to the victory you are trying to achieve;
Victory at any cost? Even at the cost of what you are trying to prevent? Even at the cost of everything you have fought against ? Even at the cost of everything you believe in? Fundamentally if nothing matters...nothing matters.
It is better to travel hopefully than to arrive.
Interestingly, while "Victory at any cost" was said by someone in ME3, it was by one of the good guys, Lieutenant Victus. But I mentioned the cost when I said that what it did was important. I just don't care what the source is; I do care what the cost is.
And yet you still can't account for the trust you place in any of those solutions beyond 'it was worth a punt’.
Bringing us back OT, it’s clear that the Reapers have consistently shown themselves to be anything but benevolent. I mean, as I understand it, the Catalyst uses the Reapers as a tool to help 'oversee the relations between synthetic and organic life' by 'harvesting' them with big old space lasers (when they are not 'storing' them in Reaper form, or 'helping them ascend' by genetically rewriting their DNA in the manner of the Collectors of course).
Right?
You see, the only solution to the apparent problem of inevitable war between organics and synthetics is to create a cycle where the Reapers (a synthetic representation of their creators) 'harvest' each and every advanced sentient species in the Galaxy. You know, to stop 'conflict' in the interests of bringing 'order to chaos'.
Ridiculous!
In any case, anyone role-playing a Shep that trusts in anything the Catalyst has to say for itself should have the intellectual honesty to admit that they a role-playing an absolute moron. Those who reject those final solutions *raises hand* should do the same, but for entiirely different reasons. Honestly, what a wretched conclusion.
1. The reaper andthecatalyst are bot beleviolent nor is the op saying they.
2. Thereapers and the catalyst are just machnes doing what they are programmed to do. They are not doing this becasue they want to help organics and synthetics. They are doing this beause they programming force to to deal with organic and synthetic life conflict issues.
3.The entire thing the catalyst istrying to do to stop theconflict is to control all life. It turn organics and synthetic into a reaper so they areplace in some he cn control and in a form that does not die on it's own.
The issue the catalyst trying to impose is control over life.
4.The thing here is thatyou keep missing the fact that the catalyst and thereaper do not have a say in the matter. They are just machines doing what they are programmed to do. They are no different them weapon and a managing program. The have no will of there own.
As for sayin regecting the catayst is the best option.......I guess you not willing to get over your self to save the people you care for.
The fact that if does not need to help you active the crucible and just countioue the harvest is a point that you seem to miss....Because it make no sense to trick you to being harvested if it's going to harvest you anyway.