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[Alienboy411676]

You're all a bunch of indoctrinated fools.

You will not be honored in the coming empire.

[Bill Casey]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

If the catalyst is shackled, that just makes control hilarious...

If you want you can delete him in control.

You only replace him

clicky

[Davik Kang]

Bill Casey wrote...
clicky

Jasmine is so fit

[Bill Casey]

I guess Mass Effect does have a Disney ending after all...

[Red Panda]

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

[Red Panda]

Alienboy411676 wrote...

You're all a bunch of indoctrinated fools.

You will not be honored in the coming empire.

Have a little faith...

Modifié par OperatingWookie, 27 octobre 2012 - 01:22 .

[Bill Casey]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

He wrong. Don't listen to him...

[clennon8]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

Riiiiiiiight.  Let's imagine how the conversation would go if Anderson was still alive and "fully comprehended the situation."

Shepard:  "Hey, Anderson!  How's it going?  I'm here talking to the Catalyst. He's being very helpful, but I wanted to get your input.  By the way, did you know the Reaper leader looks just like a little boy that I saw die several months ago? Weird, huh?  Anyway, he was telling me that the Illusive Man was right all along about Control, but he couldn't do it because the Reapers already had him on puppet strings. What a twist, huh? Good news, though! The Catalyst says that if I want to control the Reapers, it would be aces all the way!  All I have to do is step up to a terminal and let it zap me into oblivion, and then I'll be in charge of the Reapers. Isn't that great? But it gets better! He also said that Saren was really onto something with that merging-with-the-Reapers idea a few years ago.  Remember that crazy turian who threw you under the bus and then aligned himself with the Reapers? Ah, good times...  Anyway, the Catalyst says I can totally do that Merge thingamajigger if I want to.  And here I thought Saren was nuts! Oops. Joke's on us! Haha.  Seriously, though, the Catalyst seems like a good kid. Honest face. Totally seems on the up and up. It would be a darn shame to kill him and all his Reaper pals.  I think we got them all wrong.  So what do you think?  What should I do?"

Anderson: "Listen to yourself!"

[Red Panda]

Bill Casey wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

He wrong. Don't listen to him...

And who will you listen to, an old soldier stuck in his ways, only able to see the world down the barrel of a gun?

[Argolas]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

Anderson is the avatar of Destroy. You are saying we betray him by choosing it?

[Argolas]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

He wrong. Don't listen to him...

And who will you listen to, an old soldier stuck in his ways, only able to see the world down the barrel of a gun?

OperatingWookie, I really have a hard time figuring out if you are serious. You keep quoting the indoctrinated...

[Slayer299]

Yes OP, the Reapers are a bunch of fluffy bunnies filled with love and only their evil mastermind overlord is forcing them to be the way they are.

Let us all feel pity for the monsters of the id.

[jtav]

Somehow I doubt the minds within Harbinger were fluffy bunnies. But if you could have freed Kenson, Benezia, et al, wouldn't you?

[clennon8]

jtav wrote...

Somehow I doubt the minds within Harbinger were fluffy bunnies. But if you could have freed Kenson, Benezia, et al, wouldn't you?

Sure, but not by falling for the same hare-brained sh*t they did.

[jtav]

It's badly written, to be sure, but it's not the first time I've had to say "Sure...let's go with that" while playing a game. It's not even the first time I had to do it in ME3. Else I'd assume Miranda, Legion, Kasumi, and Jacob had been replaced by pod people.

[clennon8]

blah blah bad writing blah blah exposition dumps blah blah

Game trilogy about villains that indoctrinate ends with villains trying to indoctrinate the protagonist. Why is that so hard to accept? I mean, seriously, this is well past ridiculous and into loony tune territory.

[jtav]

Because that would require the EC epilogues--you know the things they spent actual money on and pushed back their DLC for--to be lies. It would require BW to be acting nonsensically when they close threads begging for new ending content. It would require them to be much less hamfisted than they'd ever been, even before we got the dreams.

[clennon8]

Making the EC was a business decision as much as anything. The reception to the original endings was so poor that it would have been a serious impediment to the success of future DLC, possibly even ME4. Leviathan would have crashed and burned, I'm quite sure, and Omega probably would have been canceled by now.

Besides, you were vehemently literal about the endings long before EC was even announced. You ran into the Catalysts arms at the first glance and said "Indoctrinate me! Please! I don't like it here!"

As for hamfistedness... Well, I think Bioware has proven that they're capable of some degree of subtlety on occasion. And I wouldn't even say it's all that subtle, really. People started predicting the indoctrination ending as soon as they saw Vent Boy in the demo.

Modifié par clennon8, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:31 .

[Solmanian]

Every form of society has a leader, otherwise there is chaos and reapers are suppose to represent the opposite. Why do you think only harbinger interacts with shepard in ME2? Is he like the reapers minister of shepard affairs?

You can't absolve the reapers by saying "they are just machines, fullfiling the orders they are given." Each reaper is an A.I., more powerfull than any in the known galaxy except perhaps the combined power of the geth collective. Just because a self aware blender choose to blend, doesn't mean it's the moral choice, or that he had no choice. Even inaction is a choice by itself.

Haven't played the leviathan DLC yet (waiting for the omega to make a full playthrough), but I know it's about a rogue reaper, so there is such a thing.

[AlanC9]

jtav wrote...

Because that would require the EC epilogues--you know the things they spent actual money on and pushed back their DLC for--to be lies. It would require BW to be acting nonsensically when they close threads begging for new ending content. It would require them to be much less hamfisted than they'd ever been, even before we got the dreams.

Yep. It's one thing for the game to lie to Shepard. It's another thing for the game to lie to me after Shepard dies.  

Modifié par AlanC9, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:38 .

[AresKeith]

AlanC9 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Because that would require the EC epilogues--you know the things they spent actual money on and pushed back their DLC for--to be lies. It would require BW to be acting nonsensically when they close threads begging for new ending content. It would require them to be much less hamfisted than they'd ever been, even before we got the dreams.

Yep. It's one thing for the game to lie to Shepard. it's another thing to lie to me after Shepard dies.

They also said we wouldn't get an A,B,C type ending or have a Reaper Off-switch (Destroy)

They also said the Rachni would make an impact

Wouldn't be the first time BW lied

[spirosz]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

Yes. 

[jtav]

clen, yes I was a literalist because I've played games like ME3 before. The ending has all the hallmarks of a dev that has run out of time. Play KOTOR2 without the restoration mod sometime and ME3 no longer seems that strange. IT requires an "aha!" moment, a revelation that what we saw before was a sham. It would greatly increase fan goodwill to have such, but the devs have flat out deenied such will happen, no leaks from people who don't already have a vested interest in IT have occurred and the game scri[t for god's sake associates Synthesis with a a perfect game. The. Endings. Happened.

[AlanC9]

AresKeith wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
Yep. It's one thing for the game to lie to Shepard. it's another thing to lie to me after Shepard dies.

They also said we wouldn't get an A,B,C type ending or have a Reaper Off-switch (Destroy)

They also said the Rachni would make an impact

Wouldn't be the first time BW lied

In the game itself? You got any example of that?

Modifié par AlanC9, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:34 .

[Red Panda]

spirosz wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Anderson said, "but only if there was no other way" in ME1 in regards to sacrifice.

You can save the Geth, EDI, and the reapers. There is another way.

By choosing destroy, you betray your mentor. Do not say that he was for destroy, he did not fully comprehend the situation.

Do you want to go against the very words of the man that guided Shepard throughout the series?

Yes. 

You feel no sympathy for the man that played a role in helping you?

You are a monster.