the two things are not the same at all
people hate synthesis for good reasons people have a right to talk about the thing that is going to make them less inclined to buy a new mass effect game
you don't have the right to try amd stop us talking about it
this thread is ridiculous
Why are you still talking about Synthesis?
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 02:29
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Talk all you want, it is useless. BioWare has made up their minds and no amount of whining is going to change that.blueumi wrote...
the two things are not the same at all
people hate synthesis for good reasons people have a right to talk about the thing that is going to make them less inclined to buy a new mass effect game
you don't have the right to try amd stop us talking about it
this thread is ridiculous
#28
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 02:33
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I'm going to keep whining, just in case.Arcian wrote...
Talk all you want, it is useless. BioWare has made up their minds and no amount of whining is going to change that.blueumi wrote...
the two things are not the same at all
people hate synthesis for good reasons people have a right to talk about the thing that is going to make them less inclined to buy a new mass effect game
you don't have the right to try amd stop us talking about it
this thread is ridiculous
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 02:40
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It's not going to help, but I admire your persistence, son.clennon8 wrote...
I'm going to keep whining, just in case.Arcian wrote...
Talk all you want, it is useless. BioWare has made up their minds and no amount of whining is going to change that.blueumi wrote...
the two things are not the same at all
people hate synthesis for good reasons people have a right to talk about the thing that is going to make them less inclined to buy a new mass effect game
you don't have the right to try amd stop us talking about it
this thread is ridiculous
#31
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:04
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Kabooooom wrote...
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Actually prequels would be awesome. Reach was a great game. Sure we knew how it would end, but that didn't keep it from being a good game.
You're comparing apples and oranges. It is a false equivalency. Reach worked because Halo is a FPS with zero player choice and a linear gameplay. Mass Effect is a shooter-RPG, with relatively nonlinear gameplay and an expansive world.
So no, actually a ME prequel would NOT be awesome, for reasons I already pointed out. If you want a First Contact War game, it would take place on Shanxi alone. It would basically be like Reach. That's not a ME game. I'm not sure what it would be, but it would be ME in name only.
That's not to say that the game wouldn't be good, but it definitely wouldn't be Mass Effect.
A good number of players will NOT like playing as a pro-humanity Turian killer, i can assure you.
No First Contact War game.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:39
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i accept the ending it took time but I do i accept it is what we are left with
all i'm doing now is venting it makes me feel better
all i'm doing now is venting it makes me feel better
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:44
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Who cares? Let people talk about what they want.
Wait you can have an opinion on a FREE PUBLIC FORUM?!?!?! SICNE WHEN GUYS?!?!?!?!?
Lol OP...
#34
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 04:50
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Think of it this way: what do we have to lose? If we shut up, is Bioware going to suddenly fix everything? Ha! If we keep up the pressure, is there a chance they'll cave, go the we stand by what we wrote and believe it's our best work, but we realize that many of our fans just can't get enough so here's a DLC with Ilos, a new squadmate, and three brand new endings!? Not much of a chance, no. Probably less than a million-to-one now. But still a better chance than meekly accepting the drenn EAware already served us.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 05:07
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If ME4 is going to be a sequel then obviously all three endings are going to be canon.
ME4 will probably take place at least a couple thousands years after the reconstruction period of post-Reaper war. The Reapers have either died or left the galaxy. Synthetic life and synthetic technology are rebuilt. Organics have become fully integrated with technology no matter what. The "green" of Synthesis could be passed off as a short-term side effects of the Crucible-spawned integration.
See, not hard to combine the 3. I'm not even a professional writer.
ME4 will probably take place at least a couple thousands years after the reconstruction period of post-Reaper war. The Reapers have either died or left the galaxy. Synthetic life and synthetic technology are rebuilt. Organics have become fully integrated with technology no matter what. The "green" of Synthesis could be passed off as a short-term side effects of the Crucible-spawned integration.
See, not hard to combine the 3. I'm not even a professional writer.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:39
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There is a colossal difference between having an opinion, stating and opinion and attempting to hammer it into the quantum fabric of spacetime itself using only your skull and the empowering blood of your enemies. These days you get accosted by Synthesis haters telling you how f***ing retarded you are and how evil and Hitlerish the ending is if you as much as try to breathe a word, any word, that begins with the letter S.xMellowhype wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Who cares? Let people talk about what they want.
Wait you can have an opinion on a FREE PUBLIC FORUM?!?!?! SICNE WHEN GUYS?!?!?!?!?
Lol OP...
I would like it to s-*gets mauled*-top. It is s-*gets mauled*-tarting to get s-*gets mauled*-illy.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:50
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People keep saying that Synthesis is just like the Helios Ending from Deus Ex, no it isn't.
Think about it, the main character (JC/Shepard) merges with the AI (Helios/Catalyst) that controls the main cause of all the world's problems (Information/Reapers), which is exactly the same thing that the main villain (Bob Page/TIM) wanted to do just a few minutes earlier, and rules over everyone as a benevolent dictator.
Sounds like Control to me.
Think about it, the main character (JC/Shepard) merges with the AI (Helios/Catalyst) that controls the main cause of all the world's problems (Information/Reapers), which is exactly the same thing that the main villain (Bob Page/TIM) wanted to do just a few minutes earlier, and rules over everyone as a benevolent dictator.
Sounds like Control to me.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:52
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It's more of a copy of the Helios ending from Deus Ex: Invisible War. You know, that hypothetical game that doesn't actually exist?Finn the Jakey wrote...
People keep saying that Synthesis is just like the Helios Ending from Deus Ex, no it isn't.
Think about it, the main character (JC/Shepard) merges with the AI (Helios/Catalyst) that controls the everything (Internet/Reapers), which is exactly the same thing that the main villain (Bob Page/TIM) wanted to do just a few minutes earlier, and rules over everyone as a benevolent dictator.
Sounds like Control to me.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:54
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people talk about synthesis because its funny.
a big green highlighter on the words Space-Magic
a big green highlighter on the words Space-Magic
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:59
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Arcian wrote...
It's more of a copy of the Helios ending from Deus Ex: Invisible War. You know, that hypothetical game that doesn't actually exist?Finn the Jakey wrote...
People keep saying that Synthesis is just like the Helios Ending from Deus Ex, no it isn't.
Think about it, the main character (JC/Shepard) merges with the AI (Helios/Catalyst) that controls the everything (Internet/Reapers), which is exactly the same thing that the main villain (Bob Page/TIM) wanted to do just a few minutes earlier, and rules over everyone as a benevolent dictator.
Sounds like Control to me.
Thats exactly what I thought as well (but forgot to mention it), just compare Helios' speech about all people being connected to each other and EDI's speech in Synthesis.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 08:06
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EnvyTB075 wrote...
Kabooooom wrote...
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Actually prequels would be awesome. Reach was a great game. Sure we knew how it would end, but that didn't keep it from being a good game.
You're comparing apples and oranges. It is a false equivalency. Reach worked because Halo is a FPS with zero player choice and a linear gameplay. Mass Effect is a shooter-RPG, with relatively nonlinear gameplay and an expansive world.
So no, actually a ME prequel would NOT be awesome, for reasons I already pointed out. If you want a First Contact War game, it would take place on Shanxi alone. It would basically be like Reach. That's not a ME game. I'm not sure what it would be, but it would be ME in name only.
That's not to say that the game wouldn't be good, but it definitely wouldn't be Mass Effect.
A good number of players will NOT like playing as a pro-humanity Turian killer, i can assure you.
No First Contact War game.
I never understood the drive for a FCW game. Unless Bioware retcons the thing to hell and back (a possibility) and/or makes it a different type of game entirely there just isn't the material for a game. The entire FCW mostly involved the Turian fleet destroying Alliance ships. The only mention we ever get of notable ground battles is Ahern's scenario in Pinnacle Station, and even that was nothing but holding out and surviving until evac arrived.
Hell, the Turians don't even consider it a war, that's how dang small the conflict was. Barring a retcon, there just isn't the material for a game in there. Lets all just leave it as the founding point for human views on aliens in Mass Effect and leave it at that.
On-topic: Synthesis is plain weird. There I said it.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 08:20
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If ME4 is going to be a sequel then obviously all three endings are going to be canon.
ME4 will probably take place at least a couple thousands years after the reconstruction period of post-Reaper war. The Reapers have either died or left the galaxy. Synthetic life and synthetic technology are rebuilt. Organics have become fully integrated with technology no matter what. The "green" of Synthesis could be passed off as a short-term side effects of the Crucible-spawned integration.
See, not hard to combine the 3. I'm not even a professional writer.
Yeah, but that scenario would suck. It'd be nothing like Mass Effect we know&love, they may as well create a new universe from a scratch.
Honestly, if a sequel let it be either control or destroy and a 50-100 years after the game so the universe is recognisible. Otherwise they may as well do nothing.
And yeah, First Contact War was like what, 500 casualties on either side? That's not a war, more people die in car accidents every day >.>.
It'd be better to do a game pre-me1 or pre-me2 that completely has nothing to do with Reapers.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 08:21
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On-topic: Synthesis is plain weird. There I said it.
Not to mention, the way it goes about resolving the main conflict of the story is downright terrible.
"Oh, you want us to become half-robots? And that will make you stop killing us?"
"Fine! I'll kill myself and make everyone half-robot, just please stop killing us!!! I hope!"
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 09:11
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No First Contact War game.
Well, there goes my hope getting rid of that Heat-Sink ammo.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 09:36
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Morgan Freeman was once asked by 60 Minutes correspondent Mike Wallace, "How do we get rid of racism?"
His answer was, "Stop talking about it."
Please follow his advice in regards to Synthesis and stop treating it as a big deal when it isn't.
People are talking about it because there seems to at least superficially be a desire on BW's part to make it canon. Though the source of a lot of this has been wrong on other information before, she has stated BW believes that synthesis is inevitable, that it will happen no matter what so in the future it will exist. This could just be some kind of attempt to be funny on BW's part (I'm not so sure that they don't often think they are playing with fans). The catalyst also desires it above all which makes me vomit a bit in my mouth.And Leviathan leads some people to believe there is credence to the idea that BW will make it be the reality in any new ME game (if one exists and is a sequel of sorts). It's also the one that BW apparently believes is the happiest of outcomes.
I do think since BW lives in opposite world where you say what you'd like to see and say what you hope won't happen and they do the opposite, it's probably best to start creating a lot of "we love synthesis" threads.
Probably a good idea. I'll start one.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 09:40
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any mention of synthesis can be reffered to my signature.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 09:45
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Arcian wrote...
Morgan Freeman was once asked by 60 Minutes correspondent Mike Wallace, "How do we get rid of racism?"
His answer was, "Stop talking about it."
Please follow his advice in regards to Synthesis and stop treating it as a big deal when it isn't.
Unfortunately not talking about it isn't going to make it go away.
Get ready for it being canon in Mass Effect 4.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 09:48
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It is a huge deal if Bioware plans to make ME4 in a Synthesized galaxy.
New ME games based on Synthesized galaxy is actually the great idea. Just imagine the possibilities for the new stories.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 09:52
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Seival wrote...
fil009 wrote...
It is a huge deal if Bioware plans to make ME4 in a Synthesized galaxy.
New ME games based on Synthesized galaxy is actually the great idea. Just imagine the possibilities for the new stories.
im becoming a fan of this one:
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Posté 27 octobre 2012 - 12:23
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It is weird. No argument there. It doesn't belong in Mass Effect, and BioWare should consider declaring it non-canon.JBPBRC wrote...
On-topic: Synthesis is plain weird. There I said it.
That said, it is neither evil nor immoral. For a thing to be labeled evil or immoral, it has to be clearly defined. Synthesis is not. It is diffuse, weird, poorly explained/understood and ultimately unnecessary. We should ignore it and focus on persuading BioWare to fix Destroy and Control.
There, I just said everything that ever needed to be said on the topic of Synthesis. Let's leave it and move on?
