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arial wrote...

we would have the exact same issue that is goin on with all those Kickstarter projects, they get donations, then scrap whatever the donations were for and pocket the Cash.

I honestly do not think Bioware would just pocket the cash for a kickstarter-like donation, but I would not risk the money..


Raise the money in secret or find a couple of multi millionaires, release the game anonymously.  Problem solved.  They wont be able to do anything.

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davishepard wrote...

OP, you think they do not know that they could cash just by making what some fans want?

They will not do this. There is things that money cannot buy.


To hell with that, sometimes you need to take matters into your own hands.  If you have enough drive, no one can stop you.

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Don't listen to the nay sayers OP, you can do whatever you set your mind to.

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If I were you OP, rather than give those money to Bioware, id invest in a good psychiatrist...

Modifié par Armass81, 26 octobre 2012 - 09:17 .


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DirtyMouthSally wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

Bioware, first and foremost, wants to make money at the end of the day. Normally, they create a game with the hopes it sells well enough to recoup the development costs and adds a hefty margin on top.

What if we paid for the development of a new ending? What does Bioware have to lose?

I have $23,753.78 in the bank. Bioware can have every last penny. I consider it an investment, not for a game, but my own happiness.

If I'm the only one who invests, so be it.

If my contribution results in a single text slide, it would be enough. It would mean that I made a difference, that I didn't give up, and that I didn't let Shepard down.

It's been nearly 8 months. I can't get over it. I cant move on. I tried to by happy. I've tried to forget.

I guess I'm just looking for a bit of hope, because I ran out of it a long time ago.

If you're really serious, then you would be better off using that money funding a group of talented programmers who are familiar with the Unreal Engine developers kit.  They might be able to hack the game and create a mod changing the ending for you. 



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Bathaius wrote...

Well, just imagine if the original Lord of the Rings trilogy was instead a highly invested video game where you got to customize your character, and the ending of the story was you get to mount doom and a never before seen master of sauron appears who offers you:

A) become Sauron yourself by putting on the one ring (despite the entire narrative before showing that's a bad idea)

B) Kill all orcs (and consequently elves and magic too)

C) Make all of Middle Earth half-orc to resolve the conflict

You bet people would be varying degrees of upset. You may find the OP's suggestion ridiculous, but at least you should be able to empathize with the amount of frustration a lot of people feel about the ending of Mass Effect.



   Bathaius, this is what my problem with the ending is.   The OP's request is very reasonable but it wont work because Bioware is just going to ignore and probably laugh at the OP.  Some of the jerk posts on here are probably from some of the people at Bioware.  The only way that you will see a new ending is to get it done yourself.  They wont do it.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Money will be wasted, Bioware can't make a good ending, they're bad at writing conclusions to their main plots.


People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Image IPB


Come on, regarding story and especially characters, Elder Scrolls was never in the same league as Mass Effect. It has other strengths. It lets you do this


Skyrim is a nice game with a dull and awfull story, but it was never about the story.


My point exactly, it simply has different strengths. But I will leave for now since I realize that I am just sidetracking this thread by now.


I think the point is.

The Elder Scrolls is all about none story related content, you explore and somtimes have interesting plots certainly nothing groundbreaking.

Mass effect does different things good, Mass effect 3 turns all of that sour making the plot worse than that in a game where the story is secondary.


A glass house? No.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Argolas wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Money will be wasted, Bioware can't make a good ending, they're bad at writing conclusions to their main plots.


People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Image IPB


Come on, regarding story and especially characters, Elder Scrolls was never in the same league as Mass Effect. It has other strengths. It lets you do this


Skyrim is a nice game with a dull and awfull story, but it was never about the story.


My point exactly, it simply has different strengths. But I will leave for now since I realize that I am just sidetracking this thread by now.


I think the point is.

The Elder Scrolls is all about none story related content, you explore and somtimes have interesting plots certainly nothing groundbreaking.

Mass effect does different things good, Mass effect 3 turns all of that sour making the plot worse than that in a game where the story is secondary.


A glass house? No.



Thank you Betty for your contribution. It was most illuminating. 

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Armass81 wrote...

If I were you OP, rather than give those money to Bioware, id invest in a good psychiatrist...


Do you realize how frustrating is is to feel this way about a video game? Maybe only 50% of BSN could even begin to understand what I'm going through. Outside of BSN? Maybe 1 out of 1 million.

I've looked up psychiatrists, they treat people who have gone to war and returned with PTSD. They counsel family members who have lost a loved one. I couldn't risk being laughed at for my feelings. The internet is one thing, for it to happen in real life, I don't know what I'd do.

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I once dreamed i payed BW for a new ending, ofcourse in my dreams i was a multi billionaire, which unfortunately i am not irl. Im afraid its a fantasy OP, i would love new endings, but we just have to accept the fact that this is it, or just hope for puzzle theory or IT to be right at some point..

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wwinters99 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

If I were you OP, rather than give those money to Bioware, id invest in a good psychiatrist...


Do you realize how frustrating is is to feel this way about a video game? Maybe only 50% of BSN could even begin to understand what I'm going through. Outside of BSN? Maybe 1 out of 1 million.

I've looked up psychiatrists, they treat people who have gone to war and returned with PTSD. They counsel family members who have lost a loved one. I couldn't risk being laughed at for my feelings. The internet is one thing, for it to happen in real life, I don't know what I'd do.

No psychiatrist is going to laugh at you for feeling depressed over a video game. You wouldn't ask for their help unless you needed it. And its far more common than you might think - after Avatar was first screened, people sought help from psychiatrists because they were depressed over not being able to visit/live on Pandora. Ridiculous, some may say, but to those people it was a very real problem.

The psychiatrist's job is to ensure you are feeling emotionally and psychologically well, no matter what the cause is.

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This hurts me :(

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wwinters99 wrote...

Bioware, first and foremost, wants to make money at the end of the day. Normally, they create a game with the hopes it sells well enough to recoup the development costs and adds a hefty margin on top.

What if we paid for the development of a new ending? What does Bioware have to lose?

I have $23,753.78 in the bank. Bioware can have every last penny. I consider it an investment, not for a game, but my own happiness.

If I'm the only one who invests, so be it.

If my contribution results in a single text slide, it would be enough. It would mean that I made a difference, that I didn't give up, and that I didn't let Shepard down.

It's been nearly 8 months. I can't get over it. I cant move on. I tried to by happy. I've tried to forget.

I guess I'm just looking for a bit of hope, because I ran out of it a long time ago.



Man, do not get me wrong and do not take it as offence, but this is pathological in nature. I am a doctor and I highly recommend you to look for a local psychiatrist or psychologist (most probably you only need the latter). These are not your normal, everyday behaviour and feelings. And please, for Gods, your futures and your loved ones sake, do not waste your money, nor yourself on such a ridiculous thing. 

You have to learn somehow again that this is just a game and has nothing to do with your prsonality, and your personal life or reality in general. I suspect that you were way too immersed and the line between your real emotional life and this game has blurred. You for whatever reasons (maybe rooted in your real life problems) used this game as a source of emotions and love, and a sanctuary where you could hide from the difficulties of reality. But you have to somehow rationalise that it is all fake and it is not you. What is happening to you is not a good thing. It does not sound that serious a case, but definitely needs professional attention (and real life relationships would be very important too). 
Please do it for your own good!

Somehow you have to get back to reality and concentrate your emotions and love on people and your higher being if you believe in one, instead of simple products of fiction. It is very important!

And believe me. No doctor would laugh at your problem. The fact that you virtually live your emotional life in a video game world might sound ridiculous, but the problem itself and its possible consequences are not. I pray fro you to find a solution to this problem. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 26 octobre 2012 - 10:53 .


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I'll pay for ending dlc but funding a ending.
This won't end well.

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It is funny how so many do not recognize that this person needs help, but use him and his slightly extreme idea to channel their hatred towards the ending or this company. Even some encourage him to waste his hard earned cash and savings on this crazy idea. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:01 .


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     I guess everyone needs help then because the entire world is full of people who immerse themselves in things that allow them to escape from reality. It's a normal human tendency to seek pleasure and avoid pain. Whether it's a video game, drugs, your significant other, or something else, you become immersed in it and forget about the world. The truth is that nobody really wants to face reality. They only lie to themselves by saying that they do. The OP just chooses a different medium to immerse himself in. Is that really so strange when you think about it?

Modifié par liggy002, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:07 .


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liggy002 wrote...

     I guess everyone needs help then because the entire world is full of people who immerse themselves in things that allow them to escape from reality. It's a normal human tendency to seek pleasure and avoid pain. Whether it's a video game, drugs, your significant other, or something else, you become immersed in it and forget about the world. The truth is that nobody really wants to face reality. They only lie to themselves by saying that they do. The OP just chooses a different medium to immerse himself in. Is that really so strange when you think about it?



Not entirely true. There is a healthy balance or aurea mediocritas if you will. Yes, people need faith, need hope, need love, need company and also need entertainment in order to stay sane and remain human. But this kind of immersion and emotional investmen in some artificial, virtual product we are talking about in this case is not healthy at all. This person is willing to give up his savings for this! Would he also dump his girlfriend or cease relationships if some of them said to him that they thought that ME was a waste of time and a ridiculous game? I mean how far would it go? No, you can not go by this with a clap.

Ok, I have to go.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Wow.


My thoughts exactly.

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Op, what exactly bothered you so much in the endings, that youre willing to go this far..?

The fact that Shepard dies? Or the catalyst? Or the reapers? Or the ending choices as they are?

Modifié par Armass81, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:17 .


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Keep the money mate.
Or donate some to A worthwhile cause(there are many nature conservation projects that need help).

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Wouldnt it be funny when the "1%" among ME fans would join (financial) powers, hire prof. writers, programers, artists... and deliver something within 6 months?

You know, rich people do a lot of things, just because they can. I wouldnt judge them. (looks slightly optimistic)

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Seriously OP? Seriously?!

And here I thought nothing could make me facepalm here anymore... My advice: if you're so keen on throwing this money away, then give it to me and I'll promise to find hundreds better ways to spend it. Or use it to seek help, because if you're serious, you certainly need it.

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I will take your money, it will work towards the charity of my pocket.

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There are too many different expectations to really have any changes to the ending that would make enough people happy to even bother an attempt on working on the ending again.

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Thank you Betty for your contribution. It was most illuminating. 


No one called "Betty" made a post.
I suggest you put on your glasses.