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[Ithurael]

Sanunes wrote...

There are too many different expectations to really have any changes to the ending that would make enough people happy to even bother an attempt on working on the ending again.

I think we can find correlations.

- Harbinger boss fight
- war assets on earth & space battle
- Using war assets on earth
- more variablilty in Priority Earth gameplay
- Victory via War Assets & Crucible.

Retooling the starkid part would need to happen, I have seen some really great ways that this can be done.

[78stonewobble]

If I win the 133.000.000 euros in the lottery.

After my long ... long long loooong vacation that is.

[RKB28]

davishepard wrote...

OP, you think they do not know that they could cash just by making what some fans want?

They will not do this. There is things that money cannot buy.

What, like the integrity of the canon of previous games? Nah , that´s not true. Just look at Paragon Lost and the whole Collector dlc.





And yes, we could fund a new ending. Just look at the Black Mesa mod as a show of skill of the modding comunity these days.


If some modders decided to go forward and start a Kickstarter, alot of people would fund that endeavor, me included. The only problem is that it would only be available to pc and it would probably render ME3 unplayble within Origin(they would be messing with the original game, something I don´t think Origin takes lightly).

But hey, anything that removes the catalyst, and gives us a chance to atleast hear the war assests in the comms would be worth getting the trilogy for pc(I own it on the 360) and fund the kickstarter.

Modifié par RKB28, 26 octobre 2012 - 01:36 .

[SgtAmazing]

Amazing. First of all, not everyone hated the endings. I thought they were great. Second, spending your entire savings on a video game that has no overall effect on your life is not prioritization. If you are that addicted to video games, seek help. Money is good for many other things, like emergencies i.e. car repairs, home repairs, unexpected bills, etc.

[d1ta]

Hi OP, just want to say that I really feel for you.
Because there was once a time in my life where I got so 'dependant' in a game world that it actually nearly destroy my real life. I've been reading some posts several pages back and I think that GimmeDaGun made some good points there.

And I don't think Bioware will make a new ending (I'd throw in a big party for friends and family if they do. Promise) but maybe this thread might help you a little or maybe adds a little spark back into your life? ^^v
http://social.biowar.../index/14439288

It's a modding project by SaviourFob (MrFob, actually.. But I'd prefer to call him 'saviour' XD ever since he managed to mod the endings..)
So chin up, okay

[Kel Riever]

OP: Your heart is in the right place, but you have to look at this with a bit more, well, self interest.

Don't ever dump your savings in the name of creating some piece of media that you want. Unless you have some level of control over it. Even then, you are probably just blowing the money.

Having said that, yeah, I would purchase an ending that didn't suck. I wouldn't mind if any of the currently stupid choices are still there, since other people seem to like them. I don't want their ending removed, but I want one that would work for me.

And the only reason I would say to crush someone else's ending, is if they couldn't stand to allow anything whatsoever to be altered. Then, at that point, I couldn't care less about what they want.

Fortunately, most people would be open to more choices and better endings, provided they made sense. Well, you know, except for BioWare. Because they are perfect yet misunderstood, yada yada *insert blind follower comment here*

Do I think it will happen? Of course not. I said this before but some people (and companies) are more intersted in making sure they are wrong and sticking to it, than changing their mind and actually benefitting from it (paraphrased, but really, you get the point).

[The Spamming Troll]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

     I guess everyone needs help then because the entire world is full of people who immerse themselves in things that allow them to escape from reality. It's a normal human tendency to seek pleasure and avoid pain. Whether it's a video game, drugs, your significant other, or something else, you become immersed in it and forget about the world. The truth is that nobody really wants to face reality. They only lie to themselves by saying that they do. The OP just chooses a different medium to immerse himself in. Is that really so strange when you think about it?

Not entirely true. There is a healthy balance or aurea mediocritas if you will. Yes, people need faith, need hope, need love, need company and also need entertainment in order to stay sane and remain human. But this kind of immersion and emotional investmen in some artificial, virtual product we are talking about in this case is not healthy at all. This person is willing to give up his savings for this! Would he also dump his girlfriend or cease relationships if some of them said to him that they thought that ME was a waste of time and a ridiculous game? I mean how far would it go? No, you can not go by this with a clap.

Ok, I have to go.

"how far would he go?"

seems like your taking things overboard a little too much here.

[RKB28]

SgtAmazing wrote...

Amazing. First of all, not everyone hated the endings. I thought they were great. Second, spending your entire savings on a video game that has no overall effect on your life is not prioritization. If you are that addicted to video games, seek help. Savings are good for many other things, like emergencies i.e. car repairs, home repairs, unexpected bills, etc.

Fixed.Because by your original line of thought, you buying ME3 was a dumb move.

[garrusfan1]

Uh I hated the ending more then anyone but I would not pay $20000 for a new ending

[SiriusXI]

I'm a grown man with so much more important things to do than playing a video game, and still... the ME3 disappointment kept me busy for like a month. I had to watch all youtube videos that adressed the issue and stayed on the forums quite a bit. My status still says "Hold the Line" although I've moved on already. All the dealing with the issue helped and eventually I could forget this disaster. From time to time I come here and read if something new's happening, like IT being true or this new puzzle-theory; anything that changes the ending... But I don't think that'll happen. ME3 and the ME series is - sadly - dead for me. I tried playing ME1 2 weeks ago but quit after Eden Prime because all I could think of was how the trilogy ultimately ends. I couldn't bring myself to go further.

OP, do yourself a favor and just MOVE ON. Don't waste your time crying over it. I know the ending to ME feels sort of like when your girlfriend you love suddenly leaves you (no ****tin, I really felt a little like this, crazy, I know). Then you too cry and feel bad. Totally normal, BUT do not cry for too long, otherwise your are just wasting your time.

Forbid yourself to come to these forums, forbid yourself to watch youtube-vids about it. Do not let Bioware's and Ea's faults consume you. Go outside, meet with friends, have a few drinks, do sports, do drugs, get a girlfriend and have lot's of hot sex!! THAT'll help you get over it. And by any means do not offer these liars any more money!!

good luck!

[Nightwriter]

wwinters99 wrote...

Bioware, first and foremost, wants to make money at the end of the day.

They don't take on private clients.

Even if they did, you'd be assuming that $23,000 means more to them than their artistic integrity.

That isn't a safe assumption.

[dead_goon]

liggy002 wrote...

To hell with that, sometimes you need to take matters into your own hands.  If you have enough drive, no one can stop you.

Except in this case, the owners of the IP, who would drag you into court & bury you under an absolute ****storm of litigation.

Modifié par dead_goon, 26 octobre 2012 - 04:23 .

[NorDee65]

OP, I understand exactly where you are coming from, but please save your money. Instead go here:
http://koobismo.devi...rt.com/gallery/
Koobismo (and friends) are currently working on a new (and quite involved) ending. Yes, it is another medium, but! it will bring closure, I am sure of it. So leave "Bioware_a_division_of_EA" to their own devices and take solace elsewhere.
(Another possibility is to check out some fanfiction, as quite a few people are working on better (or at least different) endings.

Good luck

[McAllyster]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Can we fund a stop to all the ridiculous "anti-ender" threads?

Yes there is one way to achieve this.

Persuade BW to make a good ending.

[PinkysPain]

Money isn't the issue, ego is ... they have dug in so far there is no way back now.

Millions of dollars of goodwill burned for Mac's artistic integrity.

[PinkysPain]

RKB28 wrote...
But hey, anything that removes the catalyst, and gives us a chance to atleast hear the war assests in the comms would be worth getting the trilogy for pc(I own it on the 360) and fund the kickstarter.

Reverse engineering the game and writing new tools to make truly new levels for it is a huge amount of very boring work (making new cinematics and dialogue is relatively trivial, but that's not really as satisfying).

You would also be really close to breaking the law, it could be argued that the mod only references copyrighted information in the original game and would qualify for reverse engineering exceptions in the DMCA ... but I wouldn't count on it.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Nightwriter wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

Bioware, first and foremost, wants to make money at the end of the day.

They don't take on private clients.

Even if they did, you'd be assuming that $23,000 means more to them than their artistic integrity.

That isn't a safe assumption.

Also if it is first and foremost how can it also be at the end of the day?

[SpamBot2000]

wwinters99 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

If I were you OP, rather than give those money to Bioware, id invest in a good psychiatrist...

Do you realize how frustrating is is to feel this way about a video game? Maybe only 50% of BSN could even begin to understand what I'm going through. Outside of BSN? Maybe 1 out of 1 million.

I've looked up psychiatrists, they treat people who have gone to war and returned with PTSD. They counsel family members who have lost a loved one. I couldn't risk being laughed at for my feelings. The internet is one thing, for it to happen in real life, I don't know what I'd do.

I know the feeling, though you seem to be taking it even harder than I did/do. The first month after finishing ME3 wasn't very good at all. 

It seems pretty obvious you are suffering from genuine depression. This being the case, I would strongly recommend seeking appropriate care. No professional would find anything laughable in your situation. At least in your case, you can name the precipitating event for your depressive episode. Many people struggle to do even that. Your feelings do not require extreme hardship to qualify as valid. 

[dsl08002]

Even if we could fund a new ending...i seriously doubt that bioware would listen.

[RKB28]

People need to let go of the idea of Bioware redoing the endings. That ship has long sailed. Even I, a guy that hates the endings, knows that. They are too full of themselves to admit their mistakes. The "More then 30 perfect scores"  rhetoric in response to the criticisms plays to that.

If this is gonna happen, it´s gonna be a outside enterprise.

Modifié par RKB28, 26 octobre 2012 - 08:51 .

[clarkusdarkus]

As much as i want a new ending OP as that would make me do a 2nd playthrough, i can't see past and go through the ordeal that is ME3, it's mediocre, a chore to play, the journal, 31 fetch quests, auto dialogue, etc etc.........

you know dragons dogma took alot of the dissapointment of ME3 away so maybe giving other games a whirl would be suffice to you

[arial]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

arial wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

arial wrote...

we would have the exact same issue that is goin on with all those Kickstarter projects, they get donations, then scrap whatever the donations were for and pocket the Cash.

I honestly do not think Bioware would just pocket the cash for a kickstarter-like donation, but I would not risk the money..

they already did it...

no they did not, we actually got a product, even if it did not satisfy many.

the issue going on with Kickstarter is people are donateing to fund games they like the sound of then the developer cancels the project, and takes all the money people had donated to fund it for a "night on the town"

As far as I understand backers get their money back if the project does not meet the minimum.

but the thing is, companys are getting the minimum for their project, then they disolve the company and pocket the cash