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#126
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The ending is freaking beautiful.

Five minutes with the Reaper Overlord and tons of Shepards are throwing themselves into the Reaper beam.

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It's beautiful in a scary kind of way. Thanks for that, Bioware.

Now this, my friends, is art. And it's going right over people's heads.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 26 octobre 2012 - 09:35 .


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CDR David Shepard wrote...

Can we fund a stop to all the ridiculous "anti-ender" threads?


I would send money for it.

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God you people are pathetic. It's a game, grow up.

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I give the OP 7 out of 10.

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CDR David Shepard wrote...

Can we fund a stop to all the ridiculous "anti-ender" threads?


+1

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RKB28 wrote...

People need to let go of the idea of Bioware redoing the endings. That ship has long sailed. Even I, a guy that hates the endings, knows that. They are too full of themselves to admit their mistakes. The "More then 30 perfect scores"  rhetoric in response to the criticisms plays to that.

If this is gonna happen, it´s gonna be a outside enterprise.


It might be an impossible dream.  But as long as ME3 is supported I'll keep asking for it.  A patch, an expansion, postgame DLC.  Whatever.  As my sig points out.  mor eclosure for a living Shepard. 

There's a demand for it.  And Bioware claims to listen to its fans...

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iakus wrote...

RKB28 wrote...

People need to let go of the idea of Bioware redoing the endings. That ship has long sailed. Even I, a guy that hates the endings, knows that. They are too full of themselves to admit their mistakes. The "More then 30 perfect scores"  rhetoric in response to the criticisms plays to that.

If this is gonna happen, it´s gonna be a outside enterprise.


It might be an impossible dream.  But as long as ME3 is supported I'll keep asking for it.  A patch, an expansion, postgame DLC.  Whatever.  As my sig points out.  mor eclosure for a living Shepard. 

There's a demand for it.  And Bioware claims to listen to its fans...

Maybe they just listen to the fans they agree with?

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Man, do not get me wrong and do not take it as offence, but this is pathological in nature. I am a doctor and I highly recommend you to look for a local psychiatrist or psychologist (most probably you only need the latter). These are not your normal, everyday behaviour and feelings. And please, for Gods, your futures and your loved ones sake, do not waste your money, nor yourself on such a ridiculous thing. 

You have to learn somehow again that this is just a game and has nothing to do with your prsonality, and your personal life or reality in general. I suspect that you were way too immersed and the line between your real emotional life and this game has blurred. You for whatever reasons (maybe rooted in your real life problems) used this game as a source of emotions and love, and a sanctuary where you could hide from the difficulties of reality. But you have to somehow rationalise that it is all fake and it is not you. What is happening to you is not a good thing. It does not sound that serious a case, but definitely needs professional attention (and real life relationships would be very important too). 
Please do it for your own good!

Somehow you have to get back to reality and concentrate your emotions and love on people and your higher being if you believe in one, instead of simple products of fiction. It is very important!

And believe me. No doctor would laugh at your problem. The fact that you virtually live your emotional life in a video game world might sound ridiculous, but the problem itself and its possible consequences are not. I pray fro you to find a solution to this problem. 


I have struggled to find a suitable reply to your post. I've typed paragraphs just to delete them and start over. I have settled on this and am sorry if you find it rambling.

Real life, defined as the state of physically existing, is not living. Real life is the background maintenance needed to pursue what your heart and mind truly desire.

Real life is getting an education, working a job, paying bills. Real life is eating healthy, going to the doctor, playing it safe.

Living is the adventures you have, the people you meet, the places you see.

If you live to 100, will you look back and be thankful for healthy food you ate to make it all possible? Or will you be thankful for everything else you did in those 100 years? Those adventures, people, and places are now just memories, no more tangible than the characters of a video game. But those things are what made "real life"  worth while.

I leave the city for the weekend and go camping. Or maybe I play a video game instead. Both are escapism. Come Monday, both activities exist only in my thoughts and memories. Real only because I know so.

You mention Gods and higher beings. What is Faith if not an escape from real life? Faith is knowing that the maintenance you run now, the choices you make, will result in a better future once "real life" is done. Is that future real? Is it tangible? No more so, and no less so, than a video game. if you believe it is, that's all that matters.

The only problem I have in "real life" is that I find it boring. Video games are where I lived. Mass Effect made me laugh and made me cry. Mass Effect made my heart pound and my mind think. Everything I felt was real. I was living my life.

And now I'm not.

Now I go to work, eat salad, make small talk. Check my body and you'll say I'm alive. Check my heart, my mind, my soul, check everything intangible, everything that's not "real"

You'll find a different answer.

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Without reading the thread, the answer is no. It isn't about money, the extended cut proved that. They had their vision for the ending, and they don't want to change it.

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Every time I come to BSN I feel like I fell through some kind of wibbly hole in time and space, and got sent back to 8 months ago. I was upset about the ending yeah, but I got over it and moved on with my life.

Spending all this time dwelling on a petty grudge can't be good for your mental health.

Modifié par Tank207, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:27 .


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wwinters99 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...
Man, do not get me wrong and do not take it as offence, but this is pathological in nature. I am a doctor and I highly recommend you to look for a local psychiatrist or psychologist (most probably you only need the latter). These are not your normal, everyday behaviour and feelings. And please, for Gods, your futures and your loved ones sake, do not waste your money, nor yourself on such a ridiculous thing. 

You have to learn somehow again that this is just a game and has nothing to do with your prsonality, and your personal life or reality in general. I suspect that you were way too immersed and the line between your real emotional life and this game has blurred. You for whatever reasons (maybe rooted in your real life problems) used this game as a source of emotions and love, and a sanctuary where you could hide from the difficulties of reality. But you have to somehow rationalise that it is all fake and it is not you. What is happening to you is not a good thing. It does not sound that serious a case, but definitely needs professional attention (and real life relationships would be very important too). 
Please do it for your own good!

Somehow you have to get back to reality and concentrate your emotions and love on people and your higher being if you believe in one, instead of simple products of fiction. It is very important!

And believe me. No doctor would laugh at your problem. The fact that you virtually live your emotional life in a video game world might sound ridiculous, but the problem itself and its possible consequences are not. I pray fro you to find a solution to this problem. 


I have struggled to find a suitable reply to your post. I've typed paragraphs just to delete them and start over. I have settled on this and am sorry if you find it rambling.

Real life, defined as the state of physically existing, is not living. Real life is the background maintenance needed to pursue what your heart and mind truly desire.

Real life is getting an education, working a job, paying bills. Real life is eating healthy, going to the doctor, playing it safe.

Living is the adventures you have, the people you meet, the places you see.

If you live to 100, will you look back and be thankful for healthy food you ate to make it all possible? Or will you be thankful for everything else you did in those 100 years? Those adventures, people, and places are now just memories, no more tangible than the characters of a video game. But those things are what made "real life"  worth while.

I leave the city for the weekend and go camping. Or maybe I play a video game instead. Both are escapism. Come Monday, both activities exist only in my thoughts and memories. Real only because I know so.

You mention Gods and higher beings. What is Faith if not an escape from real life? Faith is knowing that the maintenance you run now, the choices you make, will result in a better future once "real life" is done. Is that future real? Is it tangible? No more so, and no less so, than a video game. if you believe it is, that's all that matters.

The only problem I have in "real life" is that I find it boring. Video games are where I lived. Mass Effect made me laugh and made me cry. Mass Effect made my heart pound and my mind think. Everything I felt was real. I was living my life.

And now I'm not.

Now I go to work, eat salad, make small talk. Check my body and you'll say I'm alive. Check my heart, my mind, my soul, check everything intangible, everything that's not "real"

You'll find a different answer.


This is your problem. A lot of people grow tired of the banalities of everyday living and seek out escapism as a result. Escapism is supposed to provide temporary relief from this boredom, not become all consuming to the extent that it threatens real life. You were willing, if your original post was sincere, to essentially throw away thousands of dollars for a text slide for a fictional character. You have poured far too much emotional investment into your escapism, so much so that real life has switched priorities with entertainment in the form of a video game.

This shouldn't require deep ontological discussion. The relationships you have with the people in your life and your livelihood are far more important than a video game. You talk about reflecting on life at age 100? If you find yourself in that situation, and Mass Effect creeps into your mind for so much as a minute, then I would say you didn't lead a very fulfilling life.

Modifié par inconsiderate rick, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:40 .


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It’s possible to extend on the endings; my idea is use indoctrination to make the fans happy. Use the current endings as choices that will affect the real ending. Even if people like the EC let them have an option to use the new gameplay but let the EC endings show. Like if Shepard has two paths that he/she can take one path has EC dlc and the other is for the fans that hate EC. So that way everyone would be happy with new gameplay and the endings they love. Also bioware's art will still be there.

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If fan-base can affect the ending of something - book, comics, film, tv-show - than this ending is nothing more than fan service. Fan service sucks pretty much always, so there is no need to funding new ending for ME3, especially when next ME game in development and ME3 is not done yet (I mean DLCs).

I understand what you feel, ME3 now is like door that can't be closed. But wait, I'm sure Bioware found a way how to surprise us.

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inconsiderate rick wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...
Man, do not get me wrong and do not take it as offence, but this is pathological in nature. I am a doctor and I highly recommend you to look for a local psychiatrist or psychologist (most probably you only need the latter). These are not your normal, everyday behaviour and feelings. And please, for Gods, your futures and your loved ones sake, do not waste your money, nor yourself on such a ridiculous thing. 

You have to learn somehow again that this is just a game and has nothing to do with your prsonality, and your personal life or reality in general. I suspect that you were way too immersed and the line between your real emotional life and this game has blurred. You for whatever reasons (maybe rooted in your real life problems) used this game as a source of emotions and love, and a sanctuary where you could hide from the difficulties of reality. But you have to somehow rationalise that it is all fake and it is not you. What is happening to you is not a good thing. It does not sound that serious a case, but definitely needs professional attention (and real life relationships would be very important too). 
Please do it for your own good!

Somehow you have to get back to reality and concentrate your emotions and love on people and your higher being if you believe in one, instead of simple products of fiction. It is very important!

And believe me. No doctor would laugh at your problem. The fact that you virtually live your emotional life in a video game world might sound ridiculous, but the problem itself and its possible consequences are not. I pray fro you to find a solution to this problem. 


I have struggled to find a suitable reply to your post. I've typed paragraphs just to delete them and start over. I have settled on this and am sorry if you find it rambling.

Real life, defined as the state of physically existing, is not living. Real life is the background maintenance needed to pursue what your heart and mind truly desire.

Real life is getting an education, working a job, paying bills. Real life is eating healthy, going to the doctor, playing it safe.

Living is the adventures you have, the people you meet, the places you see.

If you live to 100, will you look back and be thankful for healthy food you ate to make it all possible? Or will you be thankful for everything else you did in those 100 years? Those adventures, people, and places are now just memories, no more tangible than the characters of a video game. But those things are what made "real life"  worth while.

I leave the city for the weekend and go camping. Or maybe I play a video game instead. Both are escapism. Come Monday, both activities exist only in my thoughts and memories. Real only because I know so.

You mention Gods and higher beings. What is Faith if not an escape from real life? Faith is knowing that the maintenance you run now, the choices you make, will result in a better future once "real life" is done. Is that future real? Is it tangible? No more so, and no less so, than a video game. if you believe it is, that's all that matters.

The only problem I have in "real life" is that I find it boring. Video games are where I lived. Mass Effect made me laugh and made me cry. Mass Effect made my heart pound and my mind think. Everything I felt was real. I was living my life.

And now I'm not.

Now I go to work, eat salad, make small talk. Check my body and you'll say I'm alive. Check my heart, my mind, my soul, check everything intangible, everything that's not "real"

You'll find a different answer.


This is your problem. A lot of people grow tired of the banalities of everyday living and seek out escapism as a result. Escapism is supposed to provide temporary relief from this boredom, not become all consuming to the extent that it threatens real life. You were willing, if your original post was sincere, to essentially throw away thousands of dollars for a text slide for a fictional character. You have poured far too much emotional investment into your escapism, so much so that real life has switched priorities with entertainment in the form of a video game.

This shouldn't require deep ontological discussion. The relationships you have with the people in your life and your livelihood are far more important than a video game. You talk about reflecting on life at age 100? If you find yourself in that situation, and Mass Effect creeps into your mind for so much as a minute, then I would say you didn't lead a very fulfilling life.




This is kinda scary. I am a doctor as well, a neurologyst. This man MUST seek advice from a psychiatrist.

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inconsiderate rick wrote...
This is your problem. A lot of people grow tired of the banalities of everyday living and seek out escapism as a result. Escapism is supposed to provide temporary relief from this boredom, not become all consuming to the extent that it threatens real life. You were willing, if your original post was sincere, to essentially throw away thousands of dollars for a text slide for a fictional character. You have poured far too much emotional investment into your escapism, so much so that real life has switched priorities with entertainment in the form of a video game.

This shouldn't require deep ontological discussion. The relationships you have with the people in your life and your livelihood are far more important than a video game. You talk about reflecting on life at age 100? If you find yourself in that situation, and Mass Effect creeps into your mind for so much as a minute, then I would say you didn't lead a very fulfilling life.


Let me retort each of your points:

Escapism is supposed to provide temporary relief from this boredom

Why would anyone want to live the majority of their life bored?

not become all consuming to the extent that it threatens real life
Mass Effect had no impact on my "real life". I still go to work everyday. I discuss the weather and politics. I exist in the boring mundane.No threat to "real life" ever existed. The threat comes from real life. What if "real life" becomes all there is? In real life, I am not the hero, I'm not the villain, I'm not even an NPC. I'm a 2D sprite in a crowd scene, boring, faceless, and stuck in the same repeating animation forever.

You were willing, if your original post was sincere, to essentially throw away thousands of dollars
I would never throw away my money. I would be buying happiness. Is that not the purpose of saving money? You save enough so that one day, you can retire from "real life" and live how you want to. Buy a boat, go on vacation, everything that "real life" got in the way of. Why wait until I'm 70 to live?

If you find yourself in that situation, and Mass Effect creeps into your
mind for so much as a minute, then I would say you didn't lead a very
fulfilling life.

Why should I forget 5 years of my life? Why should I forget any part of it? Your memories define who you are. It is what you believe and not what others think of you that determines your state of mind. My memories of Mass Effect were happy ones. In the end, does the source of the happiness matter? Or that I can say, "My life was happy"

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Argolas wrote...

Get rid of all your Mass Effect copies and spend your $23,753.78 in alcohol until you forget.


This -- and what have you been smoking, OP? I want some of that.

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...no

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wwinters99 wrote...

inconsiderate rick wrote...
This is your problem. A lot of people grow tired of the banalities of everyday living and seek out escapism as a result. Escapism is supposed to provide temporary relief from this boredom, not become all consuming to the extent that it threatens real life. You were willing, if your original post was sincere, to essentially throw away thousands of dollars for a text slide for a fictional character. You have poured far too much emotional investment into your escapism, so much so that real life has switched priorities with entertainment in the form of a video game.

This shouldn't require deep ontological discussion. The relationships you have with the people in your life and your livelihood are far more important than a video game. You talk about reflecting on life at age 100? If you find yourself in that situation, and Mass Effect creeps into your mind for so much as a minute, then I would say you didn't lead a very fulfilling life.


Let me retort each of your points:

Escapism is supposed to provide temporary relief from this boredom

Why would anyone want to live the majority of their life bored?

not become all consuming to the extent that it threatens real life
Mass Effect had no impact on my "real life". I still go to work everyday. I discuss the weather and politics. I exist in the boring mundane.No threat to "real life" ever existed. The threat comes from real life. What if "real life" becomes all there is? In real life, I am not the hero, I'm not the villain, I'm not even an NPC. I'm a 2D sprite in a crowd scene, boring, faceless, and stuck in the same repeating animation forever.

You were willing, if your original post was sincere, to essentially throw away thousands of dollars
I would never throw away my money. I would be buying happiness. Is that not the purpose of saving money? You save enough so that one day, you can retire from "real life" and live how you want to. Buy a boat, go on vacation, everything that "real life" got in the way of. Why wait until I'm 70 to live?

If you find yourself in that situation, and Mass Effect creeps into your
mind for so much as a minute, then I would say you didn't lead a very
fulfilling life.

Why should I forget 5 years of my life? Why should I forget any part of it? Your memories define who you are. It is what you believe and not what others think of you that determines your state of mind. My memories of Mass Effect were happy ones. In the end, does the source of the happiness matter? Or that I can say, "My life was happy"


1. There is a difference between enjoying alcohol and being an alcoholic. There is a difference between enjoying a video game and considering emptying a bank account because the video game didn't meet your expectations. The difference is moderation. One is perfectly normal behaviour and the other is consumption to a dangerous degree. People shouldn't have to go to the lengths of addiction to avoid boredom. Notice that I emphasized the word temporary. Some things are inevitable in life and experiencing boredom is one of them. It is not so because people seek to be bored, it simply is our state of existence that makes it so. ( I am not calling you an alcoholic, the analogy was purely to distinguish between moderation and overindulgence)

2. You said it still bothers you eight months after the fact. You said you would spend thousands of dollars for new endings. This is your threat to real life, if you are serious. You may still go to work but this is having a pernicious effect on your well-being. The bolded portion of your reply is a fairly clear sign of depression. You even said that the thing holding you back is the stigma of ridicule by a therapist. You have tacitly admitted to having a problem that requires professional help.

3  Yes, money can buy you a degree of happiness. It is not the only way to attain happiness. Suppose you get what you want. What happens after the credits begin to roll? Are you content? Or are you going to continue to cling to this? You need to move on from this at some point. Otherwise, you're going to continue to feel depressed as new endings are almost certainly not coming.

4. Five years of life and this is one of the prominent things you would use to define it? It isn't a question of forgetting, it is about remembering. Other things should ideally take precedence in memory before a video game.

The bolded portion of your retort alarms me for multiple reasons. Firstly, you have established a false dichotomy in that you only leave yourself these options: video games or solely focusing on real life. There are so many more options for healthy escapism than you are allowing yourself. Secondly, there have been approximately 100 billion humans to have ever existed and only a miniscule amount will ever be remembered by history. Were those forgotten by history incapable of living fulfilling lives? You should not expect to be "the hero" in real life as that does not preclude you from having a happy life. Adjust your expectations if that is the case. Thirdly, why do you consider yourself boring and faceless? Should you not try to improve upon that somehow? Another hobby perhaps? Meet new people? Finally, for your own sake, put aside your fear and seek professional help. They can give you the help that people on a message board can not.

Modifié par inconsiderate rick, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:21 .


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I am seeking a solution. I am not an artist, even if I taught myself how to code in the Unreal Engine, I don't have the innate ability to craft a story or model a character. I accept that. What I can do it pay Bioware to do so. A bank account can be refilled easier than an empty heart.

And if I do end up throwing my money away? Well, then I'll have one of those real life problems that everyone wants me to focus on.

P.S. Perhaps we can get a group rate for therapy sessions. Your acceptance that boredom is the natural state of existence is alarming. You should never be bored. Go out, do something, anything. If you can't do it, think it, dream it. Live your life.

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So I guess anyone can get a PHD now

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OP, I feel your pain, but you'd stand a better chance buying powerball tickets and hoping to win a third of billion or so, then you could do a hostile takeover of EA (you'd need to leverage your seed money even so - EA has a current market cap of 3.8 bill) if successful, write the ending yourself...

Modifié par someone else, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:36 .


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wwinters99 wrote...

I am seeking a solution. I am not an artist, even if I taught myself how to code in the Unreal Engine, I don't have the innate ability to craft a story or model a character. I accept that. What I can do it pay Bioware to do so. A bank account can be refilled easier than an empty heart.

And if I do end up throwing my money away? Well, then I'll have one of those real life problems that everyone wants me to focus on.

P.S. Perhaps we can get a group rate for therapy sessions. Your acceptance that boredom is the natural state of existence is alarming. You should never be bored. Go out, do something, anything. If you can't do it, think it, dream it. Live your life.


It is a part of the natural state of existence, not the natural state of existence. There is an important distinction there.Suffering and joy are also a part of the human condition, should I expect to feel them at all times? People can not be emotionally stimulated every waking moment of their lives. I am content with my life, you on the other hand, do not appear to be. Seek professional help. I will say no more on this.

Modifié par inconsiderate rick, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:56 .


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Just put the money in the bank. Save it for a rainy day. Who knows when you might need it to buy a house or a car.

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Have you tried hiring an escort, OP?
You'd be happy for a few minutes at least.

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Don't ruin your life...oh wait.

If you're depressed over a piece of fiction, it's okay. But depressed about it for 8 months? Hell. Find a better hobby.