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#51
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scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.

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xgrifter wrote...

NO Sniper rifles have scopes on them any true sniper will tell you no on the iron sights same with any pro shooter
My PSG-1 came with a scope and its a sniper rifle

You do realzie this is also to address the hip-fire penalty and add variety to gameplay?
This isn't a pro shooter, stop comparing and actually play the game before giving your opinion.

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i also forgot to add in my other post, even garrus uses sniper rifles with a scope /thread

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Bolo Xia wrote...

scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.


I will quote you and answer it without insults.

This is a futuristic game, iron sights became obsolete

 

Who cares about that? Iron sights are still used now, decades after their creation, because they are reliable. No doubt they will stay for a long time. Also, every other weapon that is not a sniper rifle has no iron sights in your opinion?


keep them balanced


Pro tip : shotguns with smart choke.

Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 26 octobre 2012 - 10:49 .


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Pyth the Bull wrote...

They could always just lower the magnification on Sniper Rifles. Especially considering most of the maps are small. Possibly even a way to toggle it, I know the L3/R3 buttons aren't doing anything useful.


THISSSSS

magnification is just way to high on Sniper rifles for most maps. Let us reduce the magnification or find a way to adjust it. they can adjust modern sniper scopes so why not in a world thats supposed to be in the future.

the iron sights isnt a bad idea either though.

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I give this topic a righteous hell yes.Image IPB

#57
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Bolo Xia wrote...

scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.

Right because modern day snipers have shotguns that do it better from range?

The scope is meant to add variety to sniper gameplay and will balance itself out.
It gives the player more control and if your arguement is based on the map layout being balanced for snipers you obiously havn't played enough.
Iron sight snipers still exist today and will in the future.

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CronisN7 wrote...

Pyth the Bull wrote...

They could always just lower the magnification on Sniper Rifles. Especially considering most of the maps are small. Possibly even a way to toggle it, I know the L3/R3 buttons aren't doing anything useful.


THISSSSS

magnification is just way to high on Sniper rifles for most maps. Let us reduce the magnification or find a way to adjust it. they can adjust modern sniper scopes so why not in a world thats supposed to be in the future.

the iron sights isnt a bad idea either though.

An adjustable variable zoom scope would be nice but I'm also trying to address the hip-fire penatly at the same time with a simple mod.

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.


I will quote you and answer it without insults.

This is a futuristic game, iron sights became obsolete

 

Who cares about that? Iron sights are still used now, decades after their creation, because they are reliable. No doubt they will stay for a long time. Also, every other weapon that is not a sniper rifle has no iron sights in your opinion?


keep them balanced


Pro tip : shotguns with smart choke.


i could say the same thing about scopes vs iron sights, that who cares about iron sights?
every other weapon that is not a sniper rifle.... umm who cares about those the discussion is about.... you guessed it sniper rifles.

pro tip: ghost infiltrator... listing something claimed to be overpowered really makes sense huh?

see i can use a condescending tone too

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I vote yes.

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Uh Cold wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.

Right because modern day snipers have shotguns that do it better from range?

The scope is meant to add variety to sniper gameplay and will balance itself out.
It gives the player more control and if your arguement is based on the map layout being balanced for snipers you obiously havn't played enough.
Iron sight snipers still exist today and will in the future.


good lord lmao, you guys act like i insulted your mothers or something.

i stated my opinion and it differs from yours that is all that has happened.

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Fox-snipe wrote...

As far as the hip-fire penalty...

Stop using a sniper rifle as a close-quarters weapon. Bring a side-arm for that, pistol or SMG, you have no excuse thanks to ULM, and if you need to complain about suffering the weapon-switch delay constantly, then you need to stop failing as a sniper and/or your team needs to stop failing.

[/rant]

When you play U/U you may end up in glacier which is CQC all the time. Congratulations on choosing a full sniper loadout... :blink:

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Bolo Xia wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.

Right because modern day snipers have shotguns that do it better from range?

The scope is meant to add variety to sniper gameplay and will balance itself out.
It gives the player more control and if your arguement is based on the map layout being balanced for snipers you obiously havn't played enough.
Iron sight snipers still exist today and will in the future.


good lord lmao, you guys act like i insulted your mothers or something.

i stated my opinion and it differs from yours that is all that has happened.

Your opinion is fine but I'm trying to get sensable feedback so if someone says no I will debate it.
This isn't a would you use it or not use it thread but rather will it work / not work thread, and why?
I believe it would work and I have reasons for this, I'm not compairing it to anything other than in game playstyles that would benefit from it while not being broken at the same time.

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Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

Fox-snipe wrote...

As far as the hip-fire penalty...

Stop using a sniper rifle as a close-quarters weapon. Bring a side-arm for that, pistol or SMG, you have no excuse thanks to ULM, and if you need to complain about suffering the weapon-switch delay constantly, then you need to stop failing as a sniper and/or your team needs to stop failing.

[/rant]

When you play U/U you may end up in glacier which is CQC all the time. Congratulations on choosing a full sniper loadout... :blink:


lol had that happen once... still managed to score allright but it was painful. enemy movement gets so exagurated at closer ranges.

but yea Turian ghost with saber sounds like the closest thing to an iron sight sniper in this game. its actually very effective easily up there with the harrier/PPR.

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Maybe it shouldn't remove the hipfire penalty (flexible), but it would have to have an additional, explicit bonus, to which removing the scope would be the "drawback".

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CronisN7 wrote...

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

Fox-snipe wrote...

As far as the hip-fire penalty...

Stop using a sniper rifle as a close-quarters weapon. Bring a side-arm for that, pistol or SMG, you have no excuse thanks to ULM, and if you need to complain about suffering the weapon-switch delay constantly, then you need to stop failing as a sniper and/or your team needs to stop failing.

[/rant]

When you play U/U you may end up in glacier which is CQC all the time. Congratulations on choosing a full sniper loadout... :blink:


lol had that happen once... still managed to score allright but it was painful. enemy movement gets so exagurated at closer ranges.

but yea Turian ghost with saber sounds like the closest thing to an iron sight sniper in this game. its actually very effective easily up there with the harrier/PPR.

The saber is pretty much a sniper AR but what I really want is a reload canceled scopeless widow without hip-fire penalty on a class that can roll.
The amount of fun to be had...

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Uh Cold wrote...

CronisN7 wrote...

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

Fox-snipe wrote...

As far as the hip-fire penalty...

Stop using a sniper rifle as a close-quarters weapon. Bring a side-arm for that, pistol or SMG, you have no excuse thanks to ULM, and if you need to complain about suffering the weapon-switch delay constantly, then you need to stop failing as a sniper and/or your team needs to stop failing.

[/rant]

When you play U/U you may end up in glacier which is CQC all the time. Congratulations on choosing a full sniper loadout... :blink:


lol had that happen once... still managed to score allright but it was painful. enemy movement gets so exagurated at closer ranges.

but yea Turian ghost with saber sounds like the closest thing to an iron sight sniper in this game. its actually very effective easily up there with the harrier/PPR.

The saber is pretty much a sniper AR but what I really want is a reload canceled scopeless widow without hip-fire penalty on a class that can roll.
The amount of fun to be had...


It could also slightly decrease the weight a little bit too. I'd definitely use it if it had that aspect.

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360 no scope?

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This idea is: Good

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I always sign OFFICIAL petitions.

And yes, I think that with the maps we have, some of the SRs would be better off without the zoom.

The team could rework the zoom mechanics, at least for the PC: the regular zoom works like all the other weapons and removes penalty, the zoom + scroll adds the scope.

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Bolo Xia wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.


I will quote you and answer it without insults.

This is a futuristic game, iron sights became obsolete

 

Who cares about that? Iron sights are still used now, decades after their creation, because they are reliable. No doubt they will stay for a long time. Also, every other weapon that is not a sniper rifle has no iron sights in your opinion?


keep them balanced


Pro tip : shotguns with smart choke.


i could say the same thing about scopes vs iron sights, that who cares about iron sights?
every other weapon that is not a sniper rifle.... umm who cares about those the discussion is about.... you guessed it sniper rifles.

pro tip: ghost infiltrator... listing something claimed to be overpowered really makes sense huh?

see i can use a condescending tone too




If I said that you were an idiot for thinking that way, that would have been condescending.


As for the shotguns with smart choke : you can snipe with it since nearly all the maps are CQC. That's why  I made the comparison. 

Shotguns have the edge in the metagame right now, as they can ignore shieldgate with their multiple pellets, and have no hipfire penalty. 

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Variety. I vote yes. Hopefully they make it more powerful than the Raptor and Incisor.

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I was actually just making a similar assertion to a friend yesterday who agreed whole-heartedly with the idea. I support this notion.

[YES]

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 Yes.

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This would make the snipers ridiculously OP. The sabre did the same thing and I used it on my snipers before shieldgate nerf. The phasic rounds and sniper buffs have made javelin x a one shot kill for all mooks , even bodyshots. I can live with the ugly scope.