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[longgamma]

OP you are too good a player to lack situational awareness. I mean you soloed plat with a volus!

[longgamma]

OP you are too good a player to lack situational awareness. I mean you soloed plat with a volus!

[Uh Cold]

longgamma wrote...

This would make the snipers ridiculously OP. The sabre did the same thing and I used it on my snipers before shieldgate nerf. The phasic rounds and sniper buffs have made javelin x a one shot kill for all mooks , even bodyshots. I can live with the ugly scope.

How would it make snipers OP in comparison to shotguns and ARs might I ask?

It wouldn't change the gates and the bonus would be peripheral vision.
Using the iron sights would take away seeing through walls with the javelin which would balance itself out if you were to use this as an arguement for OP.
As it stands shotguns do it better and all this would do is add variety, not gamebreaking nonsense.

[Uh Cold]

longgamma wrote...

OP you are too good a player to lack situational awareness. I mean you soloed plat with a volus!

When I snipe I rarely ever stay zoomed in for more than half a second so the iron sights wouldn't change much other than a new "feel" to sniping.
Plus the added hip-fire damage would make them more viable in CQC situations.
You can generally treat it like a shotgun sure but shotguns will still do it better.
It's a game and the ability to take off the scope of your weapon is not a new one.

[Fox-snipe]

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

Fox-snipe wrote...

As far as the hip-fire penalty...

Stop using a sniper rifle as a close-quarters weapon. Bring a side-arm for that, pistol or SMG, you have no excuse thanks to ULM, and if you need to complain about suffering the weapon-switch delay constantly, then you need to stop failing as a sniper and/or your team needs to stop failing.

[/rant]

When you play U/U you may end up in glacier which is CQC all the time. Congratulations on choosing a full sniper loadout...

That's why you DON'T go full-sniper, you bring a Pistol or SMG.  Thank you for proving my point.

For the record my Widow has little trouble with Glacier.  I simply keep to the corners.  And I watch my flank.  And I run from CQC battles.  Or I use my side-arm. .....

[aimimia]

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[CrazyGamer1991]

I have no idea if this has been posted before, but I think it should have its own mod slot where you can toggle the scope on and off but it should also have a negative effect to balance it like for example like less damage or accuracy over long distances.

[uzivatel]

Use Crusader...

[synapsefire]

This sniper already exist, it's called "Crusader". If you like the :sick:rusader you should vote for this proposal. 

How you like me now? 

[Uh Cold]

uzivatel wrote...

Use Crusader...

No thank you, I'm using my eagle over my crusader for the event.
Also bump.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 26 octobre 2012 - 04:19 .

[jotun04]

Fox-snipe wrote...

As far as the hip-fire penalty...

Stop using a sniper rifle as a close-quarters weapon. Bring a side-arm for that, pistol or SMG, you have no excuse thanks to ULM, and if you need to complain about suffering the weapon-switch delay constantly, then you need to stop failing as a sniper and/or your team needs to stop failing.

[/rant]

I'd be happy with this as a solution, except that switching weapons takes waaaayyyy tooooooo lllloooonnnnggggg

[Influ]

Scopeless Widow and Javelin? Yes please.

[soulstriker09]

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[The Renegade Fem-Shep]

xgrifter wrote...

NO Sniper rifles have scopes on them any true sniper will tell you no on the iron sights same with any pro shooter
My PSG-1 came with a scope and its a sniper rifle

True, however most snipers and big game hunters have back up sights for their rifles. 

Also for the love of all that is holy can we please stop referring to sniper rifles as snipers? They have totally different meanings.

[thisnameiscrap]

What makes this "official" in any way?

[Pinoy GAT86]

MintBerryCrunch13 wrote...

I'm not saying I'm not for this, because I am, but I really don't see Bioware implementing this because then they stop becoming Sniper Rifles, they're just rifles. A request that I would consider a lot more feasible would be a low power scope, like what the Kishok has, so that all the Snipers can be much more usable on maps like Glacier.

[Bolo Xia]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

scopes just need to be toned down some.

i vote no, this is a futuristic game, iron sights snipers became obsolete when scopes were made.

if scopes were not meant to be on sniper rifles why would real world modern day snipers prefer a scope?

besides im pretty sure BW said a long while back that the sniper scopes zoom in as far as they do to keep them balanced. in other words they designed them to lower a snipers field of view on purpose.

anyway thats my opinion on the subject, but im sure someone will quote me with insults just because i disagree.... this is the BSN after all.

I will quote you and answer it without insults.

This is a futuristic game, iron sights became obsolete

 

Who cares about that? Iron sights are still used now, decades after their creation, because they are reliable. No doubt they will stay for a long time. Also, every other weapon that is not a sniper rifle has no iron sights in your opinion?

keep them balanced

Pro tip : shotguns with smart choke.

i could say the same thing about scopes vs iron sights, that who cares about iron sights?
every other weapon that is not a sniper rifle.... umm who cares about those the discussion is about.... you guessed it sniper rifles.

pro tip: ghost infiltrator... listing something claimed to be overpowered really makes sense huh?

see i can use a condescending tone too

If I said that you were an idiot for thinking that way, that would have been condescending.


As for the shotguns with smart choke : you can snipe with it since nearly all the maps are CQC. That's why  I made the comparison. 

Shotguns have the edge in the metagame right now, as they can ignore shieldgate with their multiple pellets, and have no hipfire penalty. 

so your saying that on a human infiltrator the shotguns are sniper rifles right now in the game and this is why you want iron sights?

there are only a few characters that can truely make shotguns with pellets shoot from one end of london to the other with insane accuracy, and its not every shothun either.
btw nobody is forcing you to play those characters either, i have personally seen other characters use sniper rifles in platinum and keep up with the GI for example.

a person can post in a condescending tone without using actual condesending words, of course you know that already im sure.

there is nothing wrong with debating the subject of why scopes are better or worse than iron sights, but i gave my reasons in the form of "my opinion". 
i also showed how what you were trying to argue against my point of view is just "your opinion" nothing more.
some arguments cannot "win" the other person over, "you" just have to accept their answer especially if trying win" the argument with an opinion of equal importance.

i have neither lost or won this debate, i mearly stated my opinion based of equal "facts" to my knowlege and that is all you are doing to.
so i accept your opinions, it is also why i "voted no" or does this thread only accept yes votes?

Modifié par Bolo Xia, 26 octobre 2012 - 05:10 .

[Miniditka77]

Maybe.... but we already have plenty of scopeless sniper rifles.  Why not just use a Saber/Crusader/Paladin/etc. if you want a scopeless sniper rifle?  The only benefit would be that you could get the R6 Tactical Cloak bonus, and I think that bonus was intended to tie into the "assassin-like" feel of a scoped sniper.

[CalibanSLAYER167]

I think I am a no for this. My reasoning is that it basically takes away the fact it is a sniper. With that on every sniper becomes an assault rifle or a slower shotgun. Imagine how many people will close range hip-fire a black widow, javelin, or kishock. These things need that penalty because it is a long range weapon by default. But I am up for anyone who respectfully disagrees to weigh in on my concerns.

[Miniditka77]

Uh Cold wrote...

The saber is pretty much a sniper AR but what I really want is a reload canceled scopeless widow without hip-fire penalty on a class that can roll.
The amount of fun to be had...

Have you tried the Kishock?  It's not exactly what you're asking for, but it is super powerful and can be hip-fired.

[ErrorTagUnknown]

I'm all for it. Ironsights are perfectly fine for all of our maps. If you don't believe me, take the saber to giant or hydra. Headshots at any distance.

Thing is.... it would require (well not require...) new models for all the srs so they could take off the existing scopes...

[CronisN7]

the black widow/widow look a lot like the barret .50 cals. speaking from experience those things pack a heck of a lot of recoil... I def would not be brave/stupid enough to hip fire one of those, would probably blow out your hip. I cant imagine the amount of accuracy you would lose doing that.

maybe there should not be a damage reduction but a 50% acc reduction for hip firing SRs or something.

Modifié par CronisN7, 26 octobre 2012 - 05:34 .

[Jecalux]

I agree on the hip fire penalty removal, but I'd prefer to keep the scopes.

[GeneralElectric]

I don't see this happening for balance reasons. My biggest desire for snipers right now is for BioWare to add a toggle in options for snap-to-target/auto aim on consoles. When I scope I'm constantly snapped to the wrong enemy and a little piece of me dies.

[Blind2Society]

Yes