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[Burnouts3s3]

 

I feel the urge to show the Warden to satisfy fans will only lead to an easy solution that will leave many disappointed. I feel that attempting to show the Warden's face or give him a voice will only canonize the Warden and limit him/her to a specific design. While I don't think the voice actors will do a bad job voicing said Warden, attempting to do so will only limit the imagination and scope the Warden has had on the world.

I also think that attempting to recreate a design of a face model the Origins engine used, an engine full of customization and took much longer to develop, will lead to disaster as many of the finer details will be left out. One need only look at The Old Republic's 'attempt' to canonize Revan and how many fans were displeased at the end result.

If I had to pick an alternative, I'd rather have what DA2 did have the Warden mentioned but still unseen/unheard. Hawke, on the other hand, does have a specific look/sound to him/her that I would be willing to see a cameo by them. But as for the Warden, as the old saying goes, "Silence is Golden." 

[Persephone]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Hawke does NOT have a specific look, any more than the Warden does.

What's good for the goose...

This.

[Robhuzz]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Wasn't this some nut who just thought he was Revan??

No it's the actual Revan. If you read the book by Drew, the story goes exactly that way he explains. Also in this republic flashpoint (Maelstrom Prison) you actually have to free Revan with the Jedi Exile helping you. Pretty much confirming the entire thing.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 26 octobre 2012 - 04:24 .

[LilyasAvalon]

Hawke would be a lot easier to import into DA3 than the Warden would though.

[Vilegrim]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Wasn't this some nut who just thought he was Revan??

No, not according to the events of The Foundry, he is definetly Revan (and his back story fits the book as well, the book that thas Revan being more powerful than The Exile (lol, on so many levels lol)

[Dhiro]

Vilegrim wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Wasn't this some nut who just thought he was Revan??

No, not according to the events of The Foundry, he is definetly Revan (and his back story fits the book as well, the book that thas Revan being more powerful than The Exile (lol, on so many levels lol)

The Exile as a whole got a terrible treatment both in the book and the game. I mean, she had a generic model while St. Revan had a high resolution beard.

[Maria Caliban]

Burnouts3s3 wrote...

One need only look at The Old Republic's 'attempt' to canonize Revan and how many fans were displeased at the end result.

Revan was canonized about a year or so after Knights first came out by LucasArts. The Exile followed soon after.

Dhiro wrote...

The Exile as a whole got a terrible treatment both in the book and the game.

Having a vagina in a Drew Karpyshyn book is always a mistake.

At best, you will be told to stay home and have babies (Bastila) at worst you will be killed off so Drew can tell his boys-only stories (Canderous' wife, the Exile).

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 26 octobre 2012 - 05:04 .

[DeathScepter]

Well Canon of Kotor 1 for Revan was Light Sided Ending and Male. And Canon of Kotor 2 for Jedi Exile was Light Sided Ending and Female.

Their inclusion in The Old Republic is stupid for many reasons.

[Rawgrim]

Robhuzz wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Wasn't this some nut who just thought he was Revan??

No it's the actual Revan. If you read the book by Drew, the story goes exactly that way he explains. Also in this republic flashpoint (Maelstrom Prison) you actually have to free Revan with the Jedi Exile helping you. Pretty much confirming the entire thing.

So how did Revan survive...you know...age? He is a human, after all. And the TOR story takes place 300 (?) years after the original games.

[DeathScepter]

Rawgrim wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Wasn't this some nut who just thought he was Revan??

No it's the actual Revan. If you read the book by Drew, the story goes exactly that way he explains. Also in this republic flashpoint (Maelstrom Prison) you actually have to free Revan with the Jedi Exile helping you. Pretty much confirming the entire thing.

So how did Revan survive...you know...age? He is a human, after all. And the TOR story takes place 300 (?) years after the original games.

He was tortured and kept alive for 300 years by the Sith Emperor. From my knowledge other than having Revan and Jedi Exile within the game for their respective Flashpoints, I have not much a problem with The Old Republic.

Then again Sith Emperor is a bit over the top.

[Rawgrim]

DeathScepter wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Wasn't this some nut who just thought he was Revan??

No it's the actual Revan. If you read the book by Drew, the story goes exactly that way he explains. Also in this republic flashpoint (Maelstrom Prison) you actually have to free Revan with the Jedi Exile helping you. Pretty much confirming the entire thing.

So how did Revan survive...you know...age? He is a human, after all. And the TOR story takes place 300 (?) years after the original games.

He was tortured and kept alive for 300 years by the Sith Emperor. From my knowledge other than having Revan and Jedi Exile within the game for their respective Flashpoints, I have not much a problem with The Old Republic.

Then again Sith Emperor is a bit over the top.

Thats the lamest explanation I have ever heard for fan-catering. Glad I avoided this game and never tried it out.

Thanks for the reply though. Not shooting the messenger here.

[Maria Caliban]

Rawgrim wrote...

So how did Revan survive...you know...age? He is a human, after all. And the TOR story takes place 300 (?) years after the original games.

'Stasis unit' + 'Sith sorcery.'

Rawgrim wrote...

Thats the lamest explanation I have ever heard for fan-catering. Glad I avoided this game and never tried it out.

Thanks for the reply though. Not shooting the messenger here.

I rather like the game. I don't think that a single operation means it's bad.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 26 octobre 2012 - 05:13 .

[DeathScepter]

Rawgrim wrote...

DeathScepter wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Wasn't this some nut who just thought he was Revan??

No it's the actual Revan. If you read the book by Drew, the story goes exactly that way he explains. Also in this republic flashpoint (Maelstrom Prison) you actually have to free Revan with the Jedi Exile helping you. Pretty much confirming the entire thing.

So how did Revan survive...you know...age? He is a human, after all. And the TOR story takes place 300 (?) years after the original games.

He was tortured and kept alive for 300 years by the Sith Emperor. From my knowledge other than having Revan and Jedi Exile within the game for their respective Flashpoints, I have not much a problem with The Old Republic.

Then again Sith Emperor is a bit over the top.

Thats the lamest explanation I have ever heard for fan-catering. Glad I avoided this game and never tried it out.

Thanks for the reply though. Not shooting the messenger here.

as the biggest self admitted Revan and Jedi Exile fanboy, I do believe that Revan and Jedi Exile shouldn't be in TOR at all.

[Fast Jimmy]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

So how did Revan survive...you know...age? He is a human, after all. And the TOR story takes place 300 (?) years after the original games.

'Stasis unit' + 'Sith sorcery.'

The Old Republic. <puts on hipster glasses>



Doing space magic before it was cool.

[Liamv2]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Hawke does NOT have a specific look, any more than the Warden does.

What's good for the goose...

this

[Little Princess Peach]

I still think Bio should put in three CC's for us so we can have the choice to create a look for hawke and the warden and set there names and the such

[Shevy]

I support the wish to not include the Warden as a NPC in DA III. The possibility to fail on that attempt is too high.
Hawke, due to his voice and choice of three personalities, would be possible with a cc for him right before his appearance.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

I still think Bio should put in three CC's for us so we can have the choice to create a look for hawke and the warden and set there names and the such

Waste of time. IMO.

[Little Princess Peach]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

I still think Bio should put in three CC's for us so we can have the choice to create a look for hawke and the warden and set there names and the such

Waste of time. IMO.

alot of people here have said they spend hours customising there heros this would at least give them a similar look to there old versions and there would be an option to use the extra CC's or not

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

I still think Bio should put in three CC's for us so we can have the choice to create a look for hawke and the warden and set there names and the such

Waste of time. IMO.

alot of people here have said they spend hours customising there heros this would at least give them a similar look to there old versions and there would be an option to use the extra CC's or not

Why? So we can see our old hero for two minute and then never see him/her for the whole game ever again. Like I said, don't see the point.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Waste of time. IMO.

alot of people here have said they spend hours customising there heros this would at least give them a similar look to there old versions and there would be an option to use the extra CC's or not

It would be so much easier for them to have the Warden simply not appear in the game.

[Cimeas]

I think TOR handled it admirably. People wanted Revan, people wanted those links with KOTOR, they wanted Taris, Tattooine etc... and then they complained when somehow an MMO didn't include a save-import feature (in a multiplayer dungeon) for your 9 year old original XBOX/PC save.

But then again, I actually like TOR, so what do I know.

[alex90c]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Waste of time. IMO.

alot of people here have said they spend hours customising there heros this would at least give them a similar look to there old versions and there would be an option to use the extra CC's or not

It would be so much easier for them to have the Warden simply not appear in the game.

This. Having the Warden and/or Hawke appear in DA3 can only set us up for disappointment. What if they canonise their appearance or gender? Their personality? What if we don't see their face and they're covered in armour, what if the character we imported only ever wore light armours and it is OOC for them to wear heavier ones?