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[Sanunes]

With the comments being made you have made up your mind already and no matter what I or anyone else will say will change your mind. No game is a safe buy, period. I personally don't have the information to make the decision that I am going to buy the game or not, for next to nothing is known about the game yet. I don't consider Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3 to be a major disappointment, for I remember what BioWare games were like before those releases and those two games are actually no better then what was released, its just players have gotten unrealistic expectations of what BioWare releases, for people were saying BioWare "betrayed" their fans with Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect 2, but I don't see those on your list.

[esper]

Shevy_001 wrote...

Until now, we as fans don't have many "set in stone" facts about DA III, except:
-voiced protagonist
-dialogue wheel
-paraphrases
-fixed race to human
-selection of non-playable backgrounds ( whatever that means )
-our protagonist will be the Inquisitor ( whatever that means )

So, I think it's way too early to give a "sure, buy this game and you'll have shiploads of fun" advice.

Actually, while I agree that it is likely that we will be the Inquisitor, I believe that the technical phrase was: the inqustion will rise from its ashes.

The inquostion could be the ancient danger/controlled by the ancient danger and we could be the one hunted by the inqustion. Not likely, I admit, but not an non-possiblity unlike those above.

[upsettingshorts]

No, it will explode your computer/console and burn your entire house down. Safety not guaranteed.

(Also Shevy_001 left out the hybrid customizable companion armor and huge levels)

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 26 octobre 2012 - 07:17 .

[Orian Tabris]

OP, I cannot read your opening post BECAUSE it is filled with spelling errors, which for me, is like an ad (commercial) break wherein every second ad is for McDonald's.


But replying to your title question, to be honest, I think it's really too early to tell. My guess is "yes," but only because I loved DA2 despite it's failings. So maybe it depends on the player. For me, I'm pretty lax and laid back, but others, maybe it wouldn't be a decent buy, if it's much like DA2.

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 26 octobre 2012 - 07:18 .

[mousestalker]

Only if it has dancing dwarves.

[naughty99]

Why not simply wait until there is a playable demo, or at least some gameplay footage before deciding?

[Maria Caliban]

Unliklyhood wrote...

Should I buy this game?

Totally. I won't regret it.

[Zjarcal]

No, buying DA3 will cause serious harms to your health which will be passed down to your children and grandchildren, it's not safe to buy it, it's hazardous.

*obvious sarcasm*

Modifié par Zjarcal, 26 octobre 2012 - 07:44 .

[Unliklyhood]

Sanunes wrote...

With the comments being made you have made up your mind already and no matter what I or anyone else will say will change your mind. No game is a safe buy, period. I personally don't have the information to make the decision that I am going to buy the game or not, for next to nothing is known about the game yet. I don't consider Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3 to be a major disappointment, for I remember what BioWare games were like before those releases and those two games are actually no better then what was released, its just players have gotten unrealistic expectations of what BioWare releases, for people were saying BioWare "betrayed" their fans with Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect 2, but I don't see those on your list.

DA1 & DA2 were what got me into bioware games. I didn't play ME1 till ME2 was out and a friend had me try it. Reason being I never owned an xbox and didn't want to play ME2 without playing ME1. After playing ME1 then ME2 there were alot of things i didn't like about 2 that i wished they kept from 1 but i respected the direction they took with it, sent my feed back and went on with my life. With ME3 i sent the game back with a letter saying "Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!" then i sent a more tempered letter with a more discriptive and produtive critisim.

trying to stay on target... stay on taget... stay on taget... Has Bioware done or said anything to get the confadence they lost with the flop of ME3?

Modifié par Unliklyhood, 26 octobre 2012 - 07:50 .

[fchopin]

ME3 is not broken op but DA2 is broken as it has the worst ending ever made and that is why they gave up on the game. Bioware could not do a worst ending for DA3 even if they tried.

The only problem ME3 has is that it is no longer an RPG but it's still a great game.


If you think DA2 has a good ending i would not worry if i was you as anything Bioware does you will like.

[Shadow Fox]

Unliklyhood wrote...

Sanunes wrote...

With the comments being made you have made up your mind already and no matter what I or anyone else will say will change your mind. No game is a safe buy, period. I personally don't have the information to make the decision that I am going to buy the game or not, for next to nothing is known about the game yet. I don't consider Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3 to be a major disappointment, for I remember what BioWare games were like before those releases and those two games are actually no better then what was released, its just players have gotten unrealistic expectations of what BioWare releases, for people were saying BioWare "betrayed" their fans with Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect 2, but I don't see those on your list.

DA1 & DA2 were what got me into bioware games. I didn't play ME1 till ME2 was out and a friend had me try it. Reason being I never owned an xbox and didn't want to play ME2 without playing ME1. After playing ME1 then ME2 there were alot of things i didn't like about 2 that i wished they kept from 1 but i respected the direction they took with it, sent my feed back and went on with my life. With ME3 i sent the game back with a letter saying "Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!" then i sent a more tempered letter with a more discriptive and produtive critisim.

trying to stay on target... stay on taget... stay on taget... Has Bioware done or said anything to get the confadence they lost with the flop of ME3?

ME3 wasn't a flop at all...

[Rune-Chan]

At this point we really can't say.

The only things that seem to be a cause of concern for some people are being a human protagonist and the choice wheel for dialogue.

Personally the first one doesn't bother me in the slightest, the second one depends on how much it is improved over Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2/3. I sincerely hope the paraphrasing is more accurate to what you actually say this time around.

[Unliklyhood]

I didn't know people we so bad at reading they couldn't figure out what i'm asking. Diolog options, getting your own castle, riding a mgic unicorn into a rainbow troll are all neat but not what i care to know right now!

How wasn't ME3 a flop? In sales? Well yeah, snake oil was a great success just like ME3! Only diffences is snake oil didn't let you chose the color that killed everyone you ever care about! That was a personl add on.

[Shadow Fox]

Unliklyhood wrote...

I didn't know people we so bad at reading they couldn't figure out what i'm asking. Diolog options, getting your own castle, riding a mgic unicorn into a rainbow troll are all neat but not what i care to know right now!

How wasn't ME3 a flop? In sales? Well yeah, snake oil was a great success just like ME3! Only diffences is snake oil didn't let you chose the color that killed everyone you ever care about! That was a personl add on.

It would help if you actually bothered to make your writing coherrent and understandable so people knew what you were saying.






The game broke sales records and recieved critical acclaim that a very vocal minority whined about the endings doesn't make it a flop.

[silentassassin264]

You shouldn't trust them. If you already have decided to get the game before you even have substantial information on the game, then you are naive. Wait and see what it is you are getting and make your decision.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Huh, the title changed.

[Shadow Fox]

silentassassin264 wrote...

You shouldn't trust them. If you already have decided to get the game before you even have substantial information on the game, then you are naive. Wait and see what it is you are getting and make your decision.

This is your answer.

[MillKill]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Dragon Age: Inquisitor will be a fun, immersive, and strategic game that will still be decried as proof of Bioware jumping the shark by the BSN.

Fixed that for you.

[Master Shiori]

I'm pre-ordering my copy as soon as they're available.

[esper]

Unliklyhood wrote...

Sanunes wrote...

With the comments being made you have made up your mind already and no matter what I or anyone else will say will change your mind. No game is a safe buy, period. I personally don't have the information to make the decision that I am going to buy the game or not, for next to nothing is known about the game yet. I don't consider Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3 to be a major disappointment, for I remember what BioWare games were like before those releases and those two games are actually no better then what was released, its just players have gotten unrealistic expectations of what BioWare releases, for people were saying BioWare "betrayed" their fans with Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect 2, but I don't see those on your list.

DA1 & DA2 were what got me into bioware games. I didn't play ME1 till ME2 was out and a friend had me try it. Reason being I never owned an xbox and didn't want to play ME2 without playing ME1. After playing ME1 then ME2 there were alot of things i didn't like about 2 that i wished they kept from 1 but i respected the direction they took with it, sent my feed back and went on with my life. With ME3 i sent the game back with a letter saying "Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!" then i sent a more tempered letter with a more discriptive and produtive critisim.

trying to stay on target... stay on taget... stay on taget... Has Bioware done or said anything to get the confadence they lost with the flop of ME3?

If you liked da1 and da2 there are a reasonable chance you will like da3.

I do not understand, was you disc actually broken or was it the content of the disc that you didn't like. If it was the latter then how shall we answer you now? We know only of the features with which we have informed you. My best advice is to wait for the demo and follow the development here to get an idea about how the game will work.

As for the moment none off us know anything substancial, so... uh... wait and see.

[naughty99]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Huh, the title changed.

Yes, in my case I certainly wouldn't consider ME3 to be a "broken" game. It worked fine for me, decent framerate at 1080p with all settings maxed, no crashes. Overall, I enjoyed it more than ME2.

Modifié par naughty99, 26 octobre 2012 - 09:05 .

[Sanunes]

Unliklyhood wrote...

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DA1 & DA2 were what got me into bioware games. I didn't play ME1 till ME2 was out and a friend had me try it. Reason being I never owned an xbox and didn't want to play ME2 without playing ME1. After playing ME1 then ME2 there were alot of things i didn't like about 2 that i wished they kept from 1 but i respected the direction they took with it, sent my feed back and went on with my life. With ME3 i sent the game back with a letter saying "Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!" then i sent a more tempered letter with a more discriptive and produtive critisim.

trying to stay on target... stay on taget... stay on taget... Has Bioware done or said anything to get the confadence they lost with the flop of ME3?

ME3 is not a flop, a flop indicates that they lost money and right now Mass Effect 3 looks like its going to be the more successful then ME2, in game sales alone.  I really don't understand why people feel BioWare owes them anything because they didn't like the ending.  I don't see Warner Brothers or Christopher Nolan coming out to appologize or address the issues with the ending of Dark Knight Rises because I didn't like it and if I actually cared I could go find a message board where everyone there is bashing the ending of the movie.

What I meant is when Mass Effect 1 was released people on the BSN were talking about how they were betrayed for the game wasn't like Knights of the Old Republic, when Mass Effect 2 was released people on the BSN felt betrayed because it wasn't like Mass Effect 1, and now we have the same betrayed comments because Mass Effect 3 wasn't like Mass Effect 2.  Its identical with Dragon Age, Dragon Age: Origins was release people came out with the betrayed angle because it wasn't enough like Baulders Gate, then Dragon Age 2 came out and people felt betrayed that it wasn't enough like Dragon Age: Origins, every BioWare game according to these boards is a betryal of some sort.

To address the updated title, Mass Effect 3 wasn't broken when released, people might feel that way, but the game was complete and had less bugs then Mass Effect 2, for I still get the clipping bug that forces me to reload.  The endings were flawed and were fixed, not to everyone's satisfaction, but I do believe even if The Extended Cut was the ending that shipped you still would have many people extremely upset with the endings.  If you want to look at games that were broken when shipped, Skyrim for the PS3 and 360 were nearly unplayable because of poor system preformance and it took at least a month to get most of the issues fix.  Fallout: New Vegas had corruption of the saves that if you overwrite a save the game wouldn't actually update the save and unless you jumped out the first house, you would fall through the planet.

[Unliklyhood]

If YOU care about OTHER peoples spelling so much then point out the flaws rather then complain.

Why did it get such acclaim? The cut scenes looked like they were made with garys mod, the freacked outs, Stress attacks and interventions were way too detached from the actions scenes and so much more other then just an ending that had nothing to do with the MEvrs. 7.5/10 why would it get a 10 out of 10? to sell more games, munipulating the consumer to buy a bad game that didn't deserve to be bad in the first place! I'm not say they paid for good reviews I'm saying crits for magazines have other prioitie's other then making sure you get the right info.

Also this wasn't just some minor thing. This was taken to the Better Bussiness Bureau and if they hadn't of decided in favor of bioware Jack Thompson and his lackys would have had amo that might have done some damge! "Video game companys can't be trusted with the quality of there own product." using a statment like that then defining what the product as childs toys and making it impossable for games like GA3 to be made. I want my drama, i want horror, i want mature games for mature audiences.

[Shadow Fox]

Unliklyhood wrote...

If YOU care about OTHER peoples spelling so much then point out the flaws rather then complain.

Why did it get such acclaim? The cut scenes looked like they were made with garys mod, the freacked outs, Stress attacks and interventions were way too detached from the actions scenes and so much more other then just an ending that had nothing to do with the MEvrs. 7.5/10 why would it get a 10 out of 10? to sell more games, munipulating the consumer to buy a bad game that didn't deserve to be bad in the first place! I'm not say they paid for good reviews I'm saying crits for magazines have other prioitie's other then making sure you get the right info.

Also this wasn't just some minor thing. This was taken to the Better Bussiness Bureau and if they hadn't of decided in favor of bioware Jack Thompson and his lackys would have had amo that might have done some damge! "Video game companys can't be trusted with the quality of there own product." using a statment like that then defining what the product as childs toys and making it impossable for games like GA3 to be made. I want my drama, i want horror, i want mature games for mature audiences.

When you complain about people not getting your point it's on you to convey what your point is in an understandable and reasonable form so far all you've done is attack people trying to help you and rave about Mass Effect 3.

[Unliklyhood]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Unliklyhood wrote...

If YOU care about OTHER peoples spelling so much then point out the flaws rather then complain.

Why did it get such acclaim? The cut scenes looked like they were made with garys mod, the freacked outs, Stress attacks and interventions were way too detached from the actions scenes and so much more other then just an ending that had nothing to do with the MEvrs. 7.5/10 why would it get a 10 out of 10? to sell more games, munipulating the consumer to buy a bad game that didn't deserve to be bad in the first place! I'm not say they paid for good reviews I'm saying crits for magazines have other prioitie's other then making sure you get the right info.

Also this wasn't just some minor thing. This was taken to the Better Bussiness Bureau and if they hadn't of decided in favor of bioware Jack Thompson and his lackys would have had amo that might have done some damge! "Video game companys can't be trusted with the quality of there own product." using a statment like that then defining what the product as childs toys and making it impossable for games like GA3 to be made. I want my drama, i want horror, i want mature games for mature audiences.

When you complain about people not getting your point it's on you to convey what your point is in an understandable and reasonable form so far all you've done is attack people trying to help you and rave about Mass Effect 3.

Half right, I didn't make this post to  harp on ME3 and i have been. For that I am sorry. Please, if you want to change my mind on ME3 lets move that conversation elseware.

I have autisum, I have spent most of my life with people not being able to understand me and complain about it non stop. No matter how much effort I put into it people have a hard time and act like i'm doing nothing to close the gap. Now i'm of the stance if you don't understand then you do something about it becuase your just the next in line of complaints.

As for the change of topic name it's to help give people a better idea of what I'm asking. For the ones who just read the title and said "it will expload on contact" or "no game is safe" or "play the demo" some such, trolls will be trolls and i don't feel like feed them.

My main points;
Bioware betrade my trust
I want games that I came to expect from bioware
Why should I do to trust bioware again?

Those are my points and seeing other people talk about gameplay and features that have nothing to do with my trust is frustrating. I'm Debaiting weather or not to buy dlc or DA1 and DA2 both games I like but becuase of the betrale I don't want to give them money. if they are saying they learned from previus games I'd be will to buy those dlc.