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[DaringMoosejaw]

I loved every second of ME3, except for the last ten minutes. I think Bioware's heard the backlash on that one to my satisfaction - maybe next time when you're writing an ending, actually let the whole team in on it like you did every single other time instead of letting the two bosses decide everything with no further input.

My problem with the ending has led me not to buy any of the DLC immediately, but a year or two down the line when I get around to replaying it I might. My dislike on that aside, ME3 was certainly worth the money. The quality of the rest of the game was great with me, and I'm hoping Mac Walters and Casey Hudson learned about the value of going rogue. It was in my eyes one mistake, no matter how much I disliked it, when they announce ME4 I'm still pre-ordering it - because despite it all, they put out three very fun games. Three games all actually worth their money unlike, say, Brink.

DA2 was rushed, but it was still a relatively great game. I don't intend on putting Bioware games up on a pedestal and then tearing my hair out when they don't meet my exacting demands.

[Plaintiff]

A game isn't "broken" just because you didn't like the ending.

[esper]

Unliklyhood wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Unliklyhood wrote...

If YOU care about OTHER peoples spelling so much then point out the flaws rather then complain.

Why did it get such acclaim? The cut scenes looked like they were made with garys mod, the freacked outs, Stress attacks and interventions were way too detached from the actions scenes and so much more other then just an ending that had nothing to do with the MEvrs. 7.5/10 why would it get a 10 out of 10? to sell more games, munipulating the consumer to buy a bad game that didn't deserve to be bad in the first place! I'm not say they paid for good reviews I'm saying crits for magazines have other prioitie's other then making sure you get the right info.

Also this wasn't just some minor thing. This was taken to the Better Bussiness Bureau and if they hadn't of decided in favor of bioware Jack Thompson and his lackys would have had amo that might have done some damge! "Video game companys can't be trusted with the quality of there own product." using a statment like that then defining what the product as childs toys and making it impossable for games like GA3 to be made. I want my drama, i want horror, i want mature games for mature audiences.

When you complain about people not getting your point it's on you to convey what your point is in an understandable and reasonable form so far all you've done is attack people trying to help you and rave about Mass Effect 3.

Half right, I didn't make this post to  harp on ME3 and i have been. For that I am sorry. Please, if you want to change my mind on ME3 lets move that conversation elseware.

I have autisum, I have spent most of my life with people not being able to understand me and complain about it non stop. No matter how much effort I put into it people have a hard time and act like i'm doing nothing to close the gap. Now i'm of the stance if you don't understand then you do something about it becuase your just the next in line of complaints.

As for the change of topic name it's to help give people a better idea of what I'm asking. For the ones who just read the title and said "it will expload on contact" or "no game is safe" or "play the demo" some such, trolls will be trolls and i don't feel like feed them.

My main points;
Bioware betrade my trust
I want games that I came to expect from bioware
Why should I do to trust bioware again?

Those are my points and seeing other people talk about gameplay and features that have nothing to do with my trust is frustrating. I'm Debaiting weather or not to buy dlc or DA1 and DA2 both games I like but becuase of the betrale I don't want to give them money. if they are saying they learned from previus games I'd be will to buy those dlc.

If you like the dragon age 1 and 2 and wants to continue your story then buy the dlc. Don't buy, if you are satisfied with what you have. If you are in doubt check what the dlc is about. Your are obviosly not interested in what we think about the dlc so there is no more we can say.

As for the rest off your questions. We cannot help. We are not bioware. We cannot make you trust bioware or give you further advice other than what we have heard will be in da3. And personal apology from bioware you will not get, because bioware made me3 and you were not forced to buy it. To be dissapointed is not to be betrayed,

[SeptimusMagistos]

To answer the OP: just don't preorder it. Wait about a month to let the word of mouth get going.

[frostajulie]

OP you shouldn't trust Bioware. Trust a combination of user reviews on and off the BSN as well as your reaction to gameplay trailers on Youtube and how you enjoy the demo. That way you can make an informed decision. Ignore completely game reviews they are untrustworthy, reviews of incomplete playthrus that will never call a game out for its obvious flaws as ME3 solidly proved.

[FlamingBoy]

barbara2012 wrote...

who knows..... we need more information about what would be DA III dont you think?be patient

This argument is age old, and honestly some times you just know how good something is going to be before you see it, especially when past history is considered

[spirosz]

Best way to keep yourself satisfied is don't set your expectations too high.  Plus, it helps if you have a buddy(s) playing the game if you don't plan to get it right away and go off their reaction, since that's what I personally do.  I don't take "professional" reviews seriously because if you agree with them "they're legit", if you don't - "payed off", simple as that. 

Modifié par spirosz, 27 octobre 2012 - 12:14 .

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Plaintiff wrote...

A game isn't "broken" just because you didn't like the ending.

My thoughts exactly.

If you're so worked up that ME3 is an indication of what we're getting DA3 despite the fact they are made my different teams, written by different writers, etc, then you should probably just not get the game.

Modifié par TsaiMeLemoni, 27 octobre 2012 - 12:15 .

[jstme]

Do not pre-order ,despite all the cookies. Wait for the game to come out, see how people (not review sites) respond to it and make a decision.
The only way to be sure that you get a decent video game and not rushed undecided mess.

[Maclimes]

Unliklyhood wrote...

My main points; 
Bioware betrade my trust
I want games that I came to expect from bioware
Why should I do to trust bioware again?

Those are my points and seeing other people talk about gameplay and features that have nothing to do with my trust is frustrating. I'm Debaiting weather or not to buy dlc or DA1 and DA2 both games I like but becuase of the betrale I don't want to give them money. if they are saying they learned from previus games I'd be will to buy those dlc.

What the heck do you want people to say? You know just as much as we do. If you've come to conclusion that you can't trust Bioware ... then don't. Just don't buy the game, or at the least, don't preorder it. It's as simple as that. I'm not sure what you're looking for.

[Leomerya12]

Oh my god, I can't handle all this terrible spelling and grammar.
I get we're online, but come on, people!

(Mainly at the OP).

Modifié par Leomerya12, 27 octobre 2012 - 12:37 .

[Farbautisonn]

grimkillah wrote...

NO game is a safe buy, you should always read several professional and gamer reviews before buying any games. provided you can resist the preorder bonuses.

Considering how the "professional and gamer" reviews lauded a piece of crap game that effectively ruined a franchise, Id want to see the most stallwart trolls surrender to the quality of the game and storytelling before I even consider wasting time on Youtube.

If you want to see "safe buy", check out the Kickstarter games of Wasteland and Project eternity. They come close.

[Rawgrim]

Leomerya12 wrote...

Oh my god, I can't handle all this terrible spelling and grammar.
I get we're online, but come on, people!

(Mainly at the OP).

OP could be writing in a foreign language. Not everyone has english as their first language.

[Realmzmaster]

Farbautisonn wrote...

grimkillah wrote...

NO game is a safe buy, you should always read several professional and gamer reviews before buying any games. provided you can resist the preorder bonuses.

Considering how the "professional and gamer" reviews lauded a piece of crap game that effectively ruined a franchise, Id want to see the most stallwart trolls surrender to the quality of the game and storytelling before I even consider wasting time on Youtube.

If you want to see "safe buy", check out the Kickstarter games of Wasteland and Project eternity. They come close.

Which are not safe buys because they are experiencing scope and feature creep before they even get started. The features they have promised is going to outstripped the money raised. They will have to decide what to cut out of that feature list.

[Shadow Fox]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

grimkillah wrote...

NO game is a safe buy, you should always read several professional and gamer reviews before buying any games. provided you can resist the preorder bonuses.

Considering how the "professional and gamer" reviews lauded a piece of crap game that effectively ruined a franchise, Id want to see the most stallwart trolls surrender to the quality of the game and storytelling before I even consider wasting time on Youtube.

If you want to see "safe buy", check out the Kickstarter games of Wasteland and Project eternity. They come close.

Which are not safe buys because they are experiencing scope and feature creep before they even get started. The features they have promised is going to outstripped the money raised. They will have to decide what to cut out of that feature list.

And the rage shall be GLORIOUS!

[Realmzmaster]

I read what fellow gamers and professional reviewers have to say. I do not depend on them when it comes to a purchase of a game. I will follow the development of a game that interests me. I find only a few gamers on this forum have the same taste in rpgs that I do. So I take everything with a grain of salt. I match what I like in a game with what the game is offering. I check out demos of the gameplay if available.
I check the control scheme. One thing I never do is listen to the hype. Marketing is there to sell a product. It should get you interested in the product, but then it is up to the individual to do the homework. I followed DA2's development I knew exactly what was going to happen. I played the demo. I liked what I saw. I was not disappointed by the game. I knew its development time and how many changes Bioware was trying to make.

I knew the lead designer had changed. Therefore I knew the vision would change. I will pre-order DA3 because I liked both DAO and DA2, but I will continue to follow the development of the game, just like I do with Escalon III, Project Eternity, BG enhanced and Grim Dawn.

[Yobel]

I wasn't entirely disappointed with DA and ME3. ME3 is a bigger let down, because of those stupid choices like implementing journalist, Vega and wasting resources on that, minus the ending which was brilliant (yes, I said brilliant). DA II though was a nice crafted game, considering EA money grab.

I am willing to give them a chance, see gameplay or two and buy. Minus the absolutely stupid Orlais, big letdown in race matter (human only) I hope it will be a great game.

Modifié par YobelX, 27 octobre 2012 - 11:18 .

[Little Princess Peach]

Da:2 was unplayable when it first came out the da2 threads were sworming with angry fans and then when we finally got to playing the game most of those fans were like wtf was that.
so I wont buy as soon as it comes out wait until the price drops and when bio make some patches for the game

[Fredward]

Firstly ME3 wasn't broken. And secondly if you don't want to trust them, then don't. That's the magic of personal freedom you see, no one is forcing you to believe anything.

[anillee]

Not sure if this will help you, OP, but here's my take:

I played both the DA and ME series, and like you, I've been disappointed with BioWare. Their three most recent endeavors (not DLC, games) had me shaking my head and wondering if I'll enjoy their games the same as I have in the past.

That said, I know that they've made games that I've spent HOURS playing. I have 671 hours logged on ME 2 (and counting cause I'm doing a final playthrough for my main Shepard and only about halfway through 2 right now) and over 700 hours logged on DA:Origins--which will also increase because I plan on doing at least one brand new playthrough to prepare for Inquisition.

I'd be lying if I said BioWare didn't make games that I absolutely loved, so in spite of my recent disappointments, I'm going to go ahead and pre-order anyway--if for no other reason, because of how much I loved the games before.

If Inquisition garners the same disappointment from me that DA2, TOR and ME 3 did, then going forward, I'll hold off on pre-ordering and wait to read reviews but I feel like I owe it to the stories I loved so much to at least give it a chance.

That's my personal take.

[Farbautisonn]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Realmzmaster wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

grimkillah wrote...

NO game is a safe buy, you should always read several professional and gamer reviews before buying any games. provided you can resist the preorder bonuses.

Considering how the "professional and gamer" reviews lauded a piece of crap game that effectively ruined a franchise, Id want to see the most stallwart trolls surrender to the quality of the game and storytelling before I even consider wasting time on Youtube.

If you want to see "safe buy", check out the Kickstarter games of Wasteland and Project eternity. They come close.

Which are not safe buys because they are experiencing scope and feature creep before they even get started. The features they have promised is going to outstripped the money raised. They will have to decide what to cut out of that feature list.

And the rage shall be GLORIOUS!

As far as I know the money raised is Venture capital. That can be used to generate more capital. After all if you have money, its very easy to borrow more. Not having money makes it next to impossible to borrow these days. Ask anyone .

And its a trust thing. People trust Obsidian to deliver. And I think they will. I think wasteland will deliver too. If nothing else it will deliver a trip back memory lane for those of us who dont buy into the whole "streamline" (Dumb down to FPS and the console crowd) thing.

As for the Rage... I dont think anything can beat the ME3 Shi.tefest. It was enough to get EA penned as worst company of the US beating Bank of America by leagues and bounds. Thats no mean feat.

After DA2 and ME3, the bazaar, Deception, and with both docs gone Bioware has officially joined Bullfrog, Origins, and Westwood studios.:innocent:. I dont think Bioware could raise 1 mill on Kickstarter even if they promised to reboot Planescape Torment

[CuriousArtemis]

My copy of ME3 didn't ship broken. It was perfectly fine! I was able to play it all the way through, and then I even replayed it, and it still worked properly.

[Sol Downer]

You didn't like the ending so the game was broken? That's some jacked up logic right there. The game was 99% perfect!

[Hexley UK]

DA3 will be another DA2 fail with ME combat wedged into a fantasy game, no choice of race, no skills outside of combat related ones, small scale and limited scope boring humanity centric story which craps on all the lore that came before it and so on.

Anyone who expects any different is blind to what BiowEAre now are.

In short i expect if you liked DA2 (like all 4 of you) then you'll love this crap.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 28 octobre 2012 - 08:01 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Ultimashade wrote...

You didn't like the ending so the game was broken? That's some jacked up logic right there. The game was 99% perfect!

Must..... resist..... arguing!