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[TheJediSaint]

I'm sure he'll make an appearance in some form in DA 3, depending on player choices in DAO. Particularly if the plot at some point touches upon Ferelden's recovery from the Sixth Blight.

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

She only betrays you if you say:
1) You're going to kill Loghain
2) You don't support her.

And neither of those is a betrayal. 

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

He's going to be canon in DA3?

No he isn't. 

[The Elder King]

nevermind

Modifié par hhh89, 26 octobre 2012 - 08:11 .

[TheJediSaint]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Thank god he's dead in my import, no?

Well I suppose there's that, too.

Also-Fiend!

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[Maria Caliban]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

This topic is about Dragon Age: Inquisitor!

...somehow?

He's going to be canon in DA3?

No.

He's canon in the comics but won't be showing up in DA 3.

[TheButterflyEffect]

So he'll stay dead?! Yaay!

[Asch Lavigne]

Well I have him as a Warden and I'd like to see him end up with Bethany. I'd also like to know what the heck the Wardens were up to in 2 but that's off topic.

[Dave of Canada]

TheJediSaint wrote...

Also-Fiend!

Me and Anora celebrate our wedding with Alistair's head on a pike, it's a shame he had to die but Ferelden will no longer be slaves to the line of Calenhad--the line of Cousland begins!

Until my Warden disappears for no reason whatsoever.

[Terrorize69]

He'll appear in all DA3 saves and make at least 1 "Swooping is bad" reference Just to irk haters right off lol

[LobselVith8]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

This topic is about Dragon Age: Inquisitor!

...somehow?

He's going to be canon in DA3? 

I don't believe that will be the case. There have been complaints about rectons and handwaves since Awakening and Dragon Age II, but it seems like the ruler of Ferelden hasn't been discarded. Dragon Age II recognized that I put King Alistair and Queen Anora on the throne.

[Medhia Nox]

But are the comics - and books for that matter - canon for the games?

I imagine the books are - but with comics that's less of a given in my opinion.

Well - then thank the Maker I'm in Orlais.

[Frocharocha]

Medhia Nox wrote...

But are the comics - and books for that matter - canon for the games?

I imagine the books are - but with comics that's less of a given in my opinion.

Well - then thank the Maker I'm in Orlais.

Yes, they are. That's why i still thinks that tehre's no canon storyline. You need to build it whikle playing the games.

[GloriousDame]

What is with all this hate and bitterness? It all seems poorly unfounded because you just happen to not like his personality.

I respect everyone's opinions but come on- it seems like you’d only like him if he was a two-faced jerk.

At least Alistair isn’t a not a traitor like both Logain and his daughter, he didn't grow up as a nobleman, has no desire for power, which is more reason to believe he'd be a lot less likely to be corrupted by said power. Since when did so many people stop preferring honor in our leaders over slyness (or I guess what YOU would call “cunning”)? Oh yes that trusty Rendon Howe, Logain’s right hand, is right up your alley.

[LobselVith8]

Medhia Nox wrote...

But are the comics - and books for that matter - canon for the games?

I imagine the books are - but with comics that's less of a given in my opinion.

Well - then thank the Maker I'm in Orlais.

It was explained that they aren't canon, simply a particular scenerio that happens if all the characters are in the right places. For example: Wynne being alive in Asunder isn't canon, Alistair being King isn't canon, ect.

[GloriousDame]

Terrorize69 wrote...

He'll appear in all DA3 saves and make at least 1 "Swooping is bad" reference Just to irk haters right off lol

Mhmm.

[TheButterflyEffect]

He IS a two faced jerk...

And yes he is a traitor, and clearly he does desire power deep down, since he whines about losing his chance at power if you meet him in the Hanged Man.

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ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

What is with all this hate and bitterness? It all seems poorly unfounded because you just happen to not like his personality.

ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

At least Alistair isn’t a traitor like both Logain and his daughter

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[ScarMK]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

He IS a two faced jerk...

And yes he is a traitor, and clearly he does desire power deep down, since he whines about losing his chance at power if you meet him in the Hanged Man.

I'm pretty sure that's for a hardened Alistair.  I've had an unhardedened Alistair willingly and happily give up his claim to the throne.  He isn't exiled and stays with the wardens.

[Frocharocha]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

But are the comics - and books for that matter - canon for the games?

I imagine the books are - but with comics that's less of a given in my opinion.

Well - then thank the Maker I'm in Orlais.

It was explained that they aren't canon, simply a particular scenerio that happens if all the characters are in the right places. For example: Wynne being alive in Asunder isn't canon, Alistair being King isn't canon, ect.

So the actual history line must be;

-Loghain kills Cailan.
-The warden dies killing the archdemon, loghain survives, Anora is the queen, Alistar has alchoolism problems
-Hawke is a mage. truns itn oteh champion by killing Arishok. Side with the mages.
-Morrigan doesn't have a daughter.
-Flemeth didn't need to be summoned.

[Masha Potato]

I thought it was a thread about Ass Creed

[Terrorize69]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

He IS a two faced jerk...

And yes he is a traitor, and clearly he does desire power deep down, since he whines about losing his chance at power if you meet him in the Hanged Man.

I think after 5years of exile and down in the gutter, anyone would change their mind about wanting power...

Sorry that seems like a stupid point.

[GloriousDame]

Because suddenly a character developed into someone a bit bitter because of how he was BETRAYED by the Warden (the decision back in DAO that caused him to become a "wandering drunk" in DA2)? Oh yes, it is a horrible thing for the choices we make in a RPG, that by the way is supposed to take choices into account, to actually take the choices you made and give them a consequence in accordance to what said choice was.

He seems perfectly fine when you leave him be as a Warden (hardened or not), no power-hunger bitterness. His bitterness is born from the choice to have Logain join the order and place his traitor-daughter on the throne because it is unworthy to have mercy for both these people. He's not power-hungry when you give Anora the throne so long as you rightfully punish Logain for treason. Seems to me like there is nothing wrong with wanting justice served.

Modifié par ArinTheirinCousland, 26 octobre 2012 - 08:40 .

[LobselVith8]

Frocharocha wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

It was explained that they aren't canon, simply a particular scenerio that happens if all the characters are in the right places. For example: Wynne being alive in Asunder isn't canon, Alistair being King isn't canon, ect.

So the actual history line must be;

-Loghain kills Cailan.
-The warden dies killing the archdemon, loghain survives, Anora is the queen, Alistar has alchoolism problems
-Hawke is a mage. truns itn oteh champion by killing Arishok. Side with the mages.
-Morrigan doesn't have a daughter.
-Flemeth didn't need to be summoned.

There's no universal canon. Unlike the Fallout series, for instance. Each player creates their own 'canon,' although the rectons do result in certain scenerios being universal for everyone (i.e. Leliana being alive).

[Frocharocha]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

He IS a two faced jerk...

And yes he is a traitor, and clearly he does desire power deep down, since he whines about losing his chance at power if you meet him in the Hanged Man.

i found Alistar awesome. You just find him at the Hangged man because everybody goes to the hangged man one time or another.

Girl:* I think i will never find him again. Where od man go when the are sad?*

Varric: 
The Hangged Man.
Isabela:
The Hangged Man .
Aveline:
The Hangged Man.
Merril:
The Hangged Man.
Fenris:
The Hangged Man .
Anders:
The Hangged Man .
Sebastian: C'mon,, even i know that.

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ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

Because suddenly a character developed into someone a bit bitter because of how he was BETRAYED by the Warden (the decision back in DAO that caused him to become a "wandering drunk" in DA2)?

It's only a betrayal if the Warden and Alistair are good friends.  They do not have to be.  It's entirely possible to play a Warden who feels kidnapped/blackmailed by the order who takes every single opportunity to tell Alistair that Duncan deserved to die, and to not indulge him in his grief.

ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

traitor-daughter

What is with all this hate and bitterness? It all seems poorly unfounded because you just happen to not like her personality. 

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