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[ImperatorMortis]

FINE HERE wrote...
Touché.

King Alistair for DA3! Discuss!

NO MORE CAMEOS! They're awful. 

[SeptimusMagistos]

FreshIstay wrote...

Anora betrays you. < load of crap

She will only leave you to Cauthrien if your warden is coward enough to surrender, or has low Coercion Skill. On top of that, if your warden does surrender, she will tell eamon & friends immediately, Betrayal would mean she would leave you in captivity without notifying anyone.

Pretty sure she runs away even if you choose to stay and fight. Which would be fine if she hadn't destroyed my Warden's attempt to defuse the situation by accusing him of a crime just seconds earlier. Like father like daughter, I guess.

FreshIstay wrote...

Alistair Is a Train Wreck with Daddy issues who governs with his Emotions, Not qualities of a strong King, furthemore Fereldan is safer with a person who has actually ruled for 5 years. Blood of Calenhad my nipples, Theirin's are not Targeryen's. If that's what Gaider's aiming for he should have made Alistair a harder man, like Lohgain. Im inclined to beleive Queen-Consorts of Alistair have the balls in the relationship.

We've had quite enough hard men, thank you. I'm reversing the course and putting an unhardened Alistair on the throne. Say what you will about him, but he was clever enough to deal with the Warden honestly and fairly, and he's riding that decision all the way to the throne. Anora, on the other hand, attempted cheating and double-dealing, and it's landing her in an oubliette.

[Nashimura]

I put unhardened Alistair on the throne with my female human noble, in my head it was so i could manipulate the fool and rule Ferelden my self....

Modifié par Nashimura, 27 octobre 2012 - 07:09 .

[ImperatorMortis]

Nashimura wrote...

I put unhardened Alistair on the throne with my female human noble, in my head it was so i could manipulate the fool and rule Ferelden my self....

Sigh.. 

Why not just marry the dude, and take charge as the queen rather than rule from the shadows? Just cut out the middle man. 

[Inquisitor Recon]

Well Altair was a terrible whiny assassin. Ezio should have been king, but he had no ambition.

[CrystalXPredator]

my goodness that Anora and my Warden are King & Queen together.
dunno why but i like Anora much more as Queen instead of Alistair :S
May it is cuz Anora know how to play get what she needed.

I hope the Alistair King wont be cannon. But if it happen "We must deal with it"
Cuz BioWare said "If you dont like it, dont buy it!" :`(

[Palipride47]

ReconTeam wrote...

Well Altair was a terrible whiny assassin. Ezio should have been king, but he had no ambition.

I agree, and Altair was so easily manipulated, and kind of a cocky ass. 

Guys: Alistair is not canon, will not be canon. The books and comics are quasi-canon "alternate histories". Calm yourselfs

Modifié par Palipride47, 27 octobre 2012 - 07:24 .

[Nashimura]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Nashimura wrote...

I put unhardened Alistair on the throne with my female human noble, in my head it was so i could manipulate the fool and rule Ferelden my self....

Sigh..

Why not just marry the dude, and take charge as the queen rather than rule from the shadows? Just cut out the middle man.

I did Marry him, but the romance thing was me manipulating him to get there - i think a hardened Alistair would want to take control him self - gotta keep him weak.

[Scott Sion]

Palipride47 wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Well Altair was a terrible whiny assassin. Ezio should have been king, but he had no ambition.

I agree, and Altair was so easily manipulated, and kind of a cocky ass. 

Guys: Alistair is not canon, will not be canon. The books and comics are quasi-canon "alternate histories". Calm yourselfs

Every hero needs a flaw, Arrogance was his. Varric agrees, he makes the point 12:00 minutes in.

[Little Princess Peach]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Is it confirmed that Alistair is king as canon?

That's disappointing - I'll have to write the Warden about this unfortunate reality. I KNOW we'll be of like mind on the matter - and we'll have to do something about it.

Well, he's king in "Silent Grove.."

Bioware really like Alistair as king if you don't import into da2 you have options of him ruling alone or with anora never the warden o.O

[Harle Cerulean]

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Is it confirmed that Alistair is king as canon?

That's disappointing - I'll have to write the Warden about this unfortunate reality. I KNOW we'll be of like mind on the matter - and we'll have to do something about it.

Well, he's king in "Silent Grove.."

Bioware really like Alistair as king if you don't import into da2 you have options of him ruling alone or with anora never the warden o.O

There's a lot of variables that they didn't have a preset for, since they only had three "base state" choices.  I expect that having Alistair ruling with the Warden was not their highest priority because most people who cared about that care because they have a Warden who married Alistair, and thus have a save to load with that data.  Someone who never played DA:O and has no save isn't generally going to give a hoot about who the Warden is and whether or not they're married to Alistair.

Additionally, with their three, they had one of each race of Warden , with humans represented by a Cousland, elves represented by a Mahariel, and dwarves by an Aeducan.  Their Cousland preset was male, their Mahariel preset was female, and their Aeducan preset was male.  If anything, it's a far more glaring flaw to have not had a single mage Warden preset, given the focus of DA2, then to have not had a preset with a Warden who married King Alistair.

Modifié par Harle Cerulean, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:15 .

[Super.Sid]

I somehow feel that Alistair as king would have something to do with Orlais invading Ferelden.

[Welsh Inferno]

ReconTeam wrote...

Well Altair was a terrible whiny assassin. Ezio should have been king, but he had no ambition.

Blasphemy!

Altair

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 27 octobre 2012 - 04:00 .

[Medhia Nox]

Cameos in DA 2 were one of my major complaints.

Hawke was either living in the shadow of The Warden (makes sense - unlike Hawke - The Warden was relevant) - or he was living in the shadow of an NPC (Anders - you disgust me)

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And if Alistair is king - and I can somehow depose him - I will.

My Warden would be fine with that.

[David Gaider]

The events of the Dragon Age novels and comics are "part of Dragon Age canon", meaning they contribute to the overall lore. They do not, however, override your game choices. Those events hay have happened very differently in your particular game continuuity... meaning that, if Alistair was dead, then the events of the Silent Grove simply never occurred. If Alistair isnn't king, the Silent Grove could have still happened... but would have occurred somewhat differently.

Does this mean the comics and novels could be referenced in your game? Possibly, but only if the context is correct... and, even then, we'd need to introduce characters and events on the assumption that you've never read the material. The Architect was introduced in Awakening assuming that the player never read the Calling, and needed to work as a new character. If you read the Calling, then great-- you would have more insight into the game. It's not designed to do more than that.

If someone really wants to assert that ancillary media cannot exist if it contradicts their personal playthrough in any fashion, then so be it. You're not required to read it. You can play Dragon Age without ever picking up the novels or comics or whatever else. It will, however, still exist. If the knowledge that there is story material out there which explores aspects of the story you didn't choose in your game (all of which are equally valid) bothers you, then you'll simply have to take a breath and either pick it up or live with it.

And please stop with the crude language. You can dislike Alistair or Anora just fine without coming across as an inbred chimp. They are characters with very human flaws, and one can imagine many reasons to dislike them both... but your many feels do not make the rules of these forums irrelevant. Thanks.

[Fredward]

Personally I'm confused as to who Alitair is.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Personally I'm confused as to who Alitair is.

The assassin who killed Al-Mualim.

Either that or she misspelled Alistair.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:00 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

David Gaider wrote...

And please stop with the crude language. You can dislike Alistair or Anora just fine without coming across as an inbred chimp.

[mousestalker]

David Gaider wrote...
They are characters with very human flaws, and one can imagine many reasons to dislike them both... but your many feels do not make the rules of these forums irrelevant. Thanks.

But I like my many bad feels. Just the PC and an LI, and bad feels must happen! 

[ForThessia]

King Alistair? There is no King Alistair, there is only Queen Anora.

[Fiacre]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Personally I'm confused as to who Alitair is.

The assassin who killed Al-Mualim.

Either that or she misspelled Alistair.

No, that's Altaïr.

And inbred chimps... This pretty much proves that David Gaider has the best lines

[alex90c]

I keep reading the title as King Altair.

[The _Inquisition]

All games need a single path selected as Cannon to build upon into the next game else we end up with game cameos like Drunken Alister the fact that people get upset shouldnt change that in the slightest could you imagin how SWTOR would have turned out if Bio ware had dent established the light side revan?

King Alister is the most likley their for best route for them to build upon .

Modifié par The _Inquisition, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:17 .

[Wotannanow]

Frocharocha wrote...
But Anora betrays you.... Don't her? Btw, I think Alistar is a good king. He was born as a bastard, joined the Wardens, saw his only family refuse him and so on while Anora was always a noble.

Nope. Anora is just a commoner like her father. She may be talented, but no amount of talent makes up for the fact that they are of the common people. Cailan and Alistair are the only royals.

[TobiTobsen]

David Gaider wrote...

And please stop with the crude language. You can dislike Alistair or Anora just fine without coming across as an inbred chimp.

Gaider just won the thread! Deal with it!

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:27 .