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[Recidiva]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Dang right, it better be.  I mean after all, Zev gives you an earring off a dead guy.  The least Ali can do is give us a freshly cut rose for goodness sake.

That earring...what a turn off.  "Thanks.  Earring off a dead guy.  Check.  So bloated corpses and contract kills make you think of me.  Awesome.  I'm going that way now."

[MEUTRIERE]

robertthebard wrote...

She definitely has a few quirks, but none of them, even before I knew about the rose, make her seem all that dangerous to the PC.

She's not dangerous, besides the whole "bard-luring-victims-in-and-killing-them-after-sleeping-with-them" thing.  I mean sure, that's a little black widow of her, but besides that, she's just a creeper for watching how your 'eyelashes flutter when you sleep'.  She's more "I-sneak-into-your-tent-at-night-and-sleep-beside-you-when-you-don't-know-it" creepy than "I'm-going-to-kill-you-the-second-you-look-away" creepy.

[robertthebard]

I guess, since I seem to have derailed this thread, I should steer it back, for at least one post; Alistair wouldn't care if you had a relationship or not, he doesn't want to be King, even if he's not set up to be, and will gladly die to escape from his life. In his eyes, it's just a matter of time before somebody decides to depose Anora to make him King. Yes, he feels he's kinda important.

[amethyst_rose2009]

Cybercat999 wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...
LOL.  I know there's just something about Morrigan that us girls just don't like.  But now with Leliana it's different.  I can see my male pc with Lel, but never Morrigan.

Speak for yourself. As a "girl" I like Morrigan just fine. I like her more than everyone else at this point and I am very sorry she is not the female romance option.

Hmmm. Got the wrong impression from other ladies, I guess.  Ok, allow me to rephrase, most girls .........um some girls........... this girl just doesn't like Morrigan, as a romantic interest anyway.  With my female pc we ended up being like sisters. 

Modifié par amethyst_rose2009, 01 janvier 2010 - 02:50 .

[Recidiva]

MEUTRIERE wrote...

She's not dangerous, besides the whole "bard-luring-victims-in-and-killing-them-after-sleeping-with-them" thing.  I mean sure, that's a little black widow of her, but besides that, she's just a creeper for watching how your 'eyelashes flutter when you sleep'.  She's more "I-sneak-into-your-tent-at-night-and-sleep-beside-you-when-you-don't-know-it" creepy than "I'm-going-to-kill-you-the-second-you-look-away" creepy.

And the obvious thought that follows for me is how easy it is to go from "watching you sleep with fascination" when she's happy with you, to my dwarf thinking - when our first argument hits, she's going to be watching my pulse while I sleep jealously and thinking "The Maker gave you to me, nobody else can have you!" and I'm going to have to kill her myself.

Modifié par Recidiva, 01 janvier 2010 - 02:54 .

[MEUTRIERE]

Recidiva wrote...

And the obvious thought that follows for me is how easy it is to go from "watching you sleep with fascination" when she's happy with you, to my dwarf thinking - when our first argument hits, she's going to be watching my pulse while I sleep jealously and thinking "The Maker gave me to you, nobody else can have you!" and I'm going to have to kill her myself.

Well, there's obviously only one safe solution here: go back in time, leave her in Lothering.

[Recidiva]

MEUTRIERE wrote...

Well, there's obviously only one safe solution here: go back in time, leave her in Lothering.

I did that in my last game, actually.  Didn't even go into the tavern, never met her.  Played the game with Sten, Alistair, Dog and Oghren.  Alistair didn't make it.

Everyone else was never encountered, murdered horribly or screwed over to the maximum I could manage.

I wrecked Ferelden!  Go me!

Modifié par Recidiva, 01 janvier 2010 - 02:57 .

[MEUTRIERE]

Recidiva wrote...

MEUTRIERE wrote...

Well, there's obviously only one safe solution here: go back in time, leave her in Lothering.

I did that in my last game, actually.  Didn't even go into the tavern, never met her.  Played the game with Sten, Alistair, Dog and Oghren.  Alistair didn't make it.

Everyone else was never encountered, murdered horribly or screwed over to the maximum I could manage.

I wrecked Ferelden!  Go me!

You truly are a hero of Thedas, Recidiva.  I propose we build you a monument.

[Recidiva]

MEUTRIERE wrote...

You truly are a hero of Thedas, Recidiva.  I propose we build you a monument.

My character knows she deserves it.  She's also a living Paragon.

So...another monument, then?  

Tear down the one Anora builds to Loghain and put mine there.  Thanks!

[amethyst_rose2009]

Recidiva wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Dang right, it better be.  I mean after all, Zev gives you an earring off a dead guy.  The least Ali can do is give us a freshly cut rose for goodness sake.

That earring...what a turn off.  "Thanks.  Earring off a dead guy.  Check.  So bloated corpses and contract kills make you think of me.  Awesome.  I'm going that way now."

I know, right.  I tried to say "ewww, gross, no thanks", but he got all pissy with me, so I reloaded and took it anyway.  In between the naughty poem and the dead-guy earring, I think Zev needs some help in the proper ways to woo a woman ........... but he's cute and really good at ...........ahem, massages..... so he's forgiven.

[ejoslin]

Recidiva wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Dang right, it better be.  I mean after all, Zev gives you an earring off a dead guy.  The least Ali can do is give us a freshly cut rose for goodness sake.

That earring...what a turn off.  "Thanks.  Earring off a dead guy.  Check.  So bloated corpses and contract kills make you think of me.  Awesome.  I'm going that way now."

I liked the earring and what it symbolizes.  He took it to mark his very first kill for the crows and it was a very important keepsake; giving it to the PC is pretty symbolic.

[Recidiva]

ejoslin wrote...

I liked the earring and what it symbolizes.  He took it to mark his very first kill for the crows and it was a very important keepsake; giving it to the PC is pretty symbolic.

Right, and dog putting a hare in Morrigan's undies is symbolic too.  

But it's not...in this case...geared toward the gratification of the audience.

I get it means a lot to him.  But...egads.  I'm not the woman for him if that's the case.

[ejoslin]

Recidiva wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I liked the earring and what it symbolizes.  He took it to mark his very first kill for the crows and it was a very important keepsake; giving it to the PC is pretty symbolic.

Right, and dog putting a hare in Morrigan's undies is symbolic too.  

But it's not...in this case...geared toward the gratification of the audience.

I get it means a lot to him.  But...egads.  I'm not the woman for him if that's the case.

Not everyone is!  Just as Leliana just doesn't appeal to me but appeals to many others.

[Recidiva]

ejoslin wrote...

Not everyone is!  Just as Leliana just doesn't appeal to me but appeals to many others.

Oh, I know!  My daughter's a Zevran fan.  I like Zevran, but I would do much better with him as the sorta...gay best friend thing.  We go out dancing, we hang out together, we discuss men and such.

I just didn't want to...sleep with him, that's all.

[amethyst_rose2009]

Recidiva wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Not everyone is!  Just as Leliana just doesn't appeal to me but appeals to many others.

Oh, I know!  My daughter's a Zevran fan.  I like Zevran, but I would do much better with him as the sorta...gay best friend thing.  We go out dancing, we hang out together, we discuss men and such.

I just didn't want to...sleep with him, that's all.

Afraid he would kill you while you slept and take your jewelry?


Edit: Funny how this went from an Alistair thread (sort of) to a handsome elven assain thread, isn't it?  Zev's sly like that.

Modifié par amethyst_rose2009, 01 janvier 2010 - 05:31 .

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Recidiva wrote...

And the obvious thought that follows for me is how easy it is to go from "watching you sleep with fascination" when she's happy with you, to my dwarf thinking - when our first argument hits, she's going to be watching my pulse while I sleep jealously and thinking "The Maker gave you to me, nobody else can have you!" and I'm going to have to kill her myself.

Like she's going to give you a chance to actually wake up and defend yourself...

There's this song by Heather Nova, Make You Mine. Cute on the surface but gives the exact same vibe just how much of obsessive-posessive crazy is likely bubbling there right under the lid.

Hmm now i kind of want to play with the cutscene editor some more.

[Recidiva]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Afraid he would kill you while you slept and take your jewelry?

Edit: Funny how this went from an Alistair thread (sort of) to a handsome elven assain thread, isn't it?  Zev's sly like that.

I guess I'm just only attracted to the guys who KNOW who they want and will not let anything stand in their way to get to her.  Even her.  Or maybe those are the only ones that can get my attention.  It's probably my fault.

The rose is committing.

The earring is..."hi, I found this in my pocket and...um...well, I kill people.  So...here."  It was because he got irritated if you asked him if it meant anything to him.  Well, if YOU don't know, I'm not going to influence you.  

I'm persuasive enough as a human being, it's nice to know that I don't convince people to love me by the time they get around to confessing it.  Too much pressure.  Sounds like romance charades.  "So you...sounds like...glove...me?  You want more gloves?"

[amethyst_rose2009]

tmp7704 wrote...

Recidiva wrote...

And the obvious thought that follows for me is how easy it is to go from "watching you sleep with fascination" when she's happy with you, to my dwarf thinking - when our first argument hits, she's going to be watching my pulse while I sleep jealously and thinking "The Maker gave you to me, nobody else can have you!" and I'm going to have to kill her myself.

Like she's going to give you a chance to actually wake up and defend yourself...

There's this song by Heather Nova, Make You Mine. Cute on the surface but gives the exact same vibe just how much of obsessive-posessive crazy is likely bubbling there right under the lid.

Hmm now i kind of want to play with the cutscene editor some more.

You can edit the cutscenes???? Oh my, I just had a naughty idea involving my female pc and both Ali and Zev. Umm, how do you go about editing the cutscenes, then?

[tmp7704]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

You can edit the cutscenes???? Oh my, I just had a naughty idea involving my female pc and both Ali and Zev. Umm, how do you go about editing the cutscenes, then?

You can edit existing ones and make entirely new ones too. It's done with the Toolset released for the game (link for download should be somewhere in drop-down menu for this site, and there's whole forums section and a wiki covering the details)

[amethyst_rose2009]

Recidiva wrote...


The earring is..."hi, I found this in my pocket and...um...well, I kill people.  So...here."  It was because he got irritated if you asked him if it meant anything to him.  Well, if YOU don't know, I'm not going to influence you.  

Zevran: Oh and um ..... don't mind the pocket lint and the bit of blood on it. It means so much to me.

[amethyst_rose2009]

tmp7704 wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

You can edit the cutscenes???? Oh my, I just had a naughty idea involving my female pc and both Ali and Zev. Umm, how do you go about editing the cutscenes, then?

You can edit existing ones and make entirely new ones too. It's done with the Toolset released for the game (link for download should be somewhere in drop-down menu for this site, and there's whole forums section and a wiki covering the details)

Oooh, I'm giddy with excitement. *jumps up and down*   

*blows a kiss* (you are a guy aren't you, oh nevermind, no matter  Nobody ever said you couldn't blow an innocent kiss to another female, right)

[Recidiva]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Zevran: Oh and um ..... don't mind the pocket lint and the bit of blood on it. It means so much to me.

Right.  I'm a very casual flirter in reality and honest to God, I've had men (erm...and women...) yell at me.   I've gotten the "What the hell does it take to get my attention?" talk many times.  I'll do the wordplay and the flirting and the joking forever otherwise and not think twice. That doesn't mean I'm...actually involved or even taking it seriously.  That's a different thing entirely.

The real answer is that if you don't know, I'm not going to tell you.  If you do know, then you're going to be bold and confident enough to do it.  That means I know you have opinions and passions and desires and I don't have to coax 'em out of you or prompt you for the rest of our short lives together.  If you're embarrassed or timid about love or any of that, you're going to last about five minutes in reality with me.  Alistair might have been awkward, but that's different than timid.  He was all in. 

Zevran and Leliana and definitely Morrigan are not all in.  They're all hedging their bets.  And since the PC isn't actually allowed a polyamorous option where I was allowed to hedge my bets also, it didn't work.

I get that in the end, Zevran is very loyal and committed, but it's just the wooing aspect that flat out doesn't work on me in reality.  That's the point at which I think someone doesn't know their own mind and I walk away because I'll end up steamrolling them into the ground in reality.  I need someone to stand up to me and say what's on their mind or they're gonna get buried.  It's for their own good.

[tmp7704]

Recidiva wrote...

Zevran and Leliana and definitely Morrigan are not all in.  They're all hedging their bets.  And since the PC isn't actually allowed a polyamorous option where I was allowed to hedge my bets also, it didn't work.

I dunno, Leliana was very firm about it, both with the love declarations and then practically dragging my elf to the tent even after having her advances dodged and then being politely told being Grey Warden and duty and yadda yadda yadda.

It was truly the case of "You cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic, and then give in".

Modifié par tmp7704, 01 janvier 2010 - 06:23 .

[Recidiva]

tmp7704 wrote...

I dunno, Leliana was very firm about it, both with the love declarations and then practically dragging my elf to the tent even after having her advances dodged and then being politely told being Grey Warden and duty and yadda yadda yadda.

It was truly the case of "You cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic, and then give in".

Leliana was too coy with the "How dare you make me confess my love first!" thing.  Like it's a competition.

Gave me the impression I'd have to do most of the work and I was there to bolster her ego.

[robertthebard]

Recidiva wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

I dunno, Leliana was very firm about it, both with the love declarations and then practically dragging my elf to the tent even after having her advances dodged and then being politely told being Grey Warden and duty and yadda yadda yadda.

It was truly the case of "You cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic, and then give in".

Leliana was too coy with the "How dare you make me confess my love first!" thing.  Like it's a competition.

Gave me the impression I'd have to do most of the work and I was there to bolster her ego.

But her spilled guts did make me feel loved and appreciated.